MDC 5,878 Posted November 20, 2017 NFL revenue expected to hit $14 billion this year, up nearly a billion over last year: http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2017/03/06/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/NFL-revenue.aspx lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 20, 2017 NFL revenue expected to hit $14 billion this year, up nearly a billion over last year: http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2017/03/06/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/NFL-revenue.aspx lol What time is your flight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted November 20, 2017 Are we going to see the salary cap get reduced? If the next big TV deal comes in way less, I don't see how it can't. Agreed....will be interesting. Hope it doesn't lead to lockouts or strikes...But if revenues for the teams continue to fall, there will be some rollback of these salaries. We shall see! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted November 20, 2017 What time is your flight? Guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 20, 2017 Guess. I think you're FOS, but I really don't care. Maybe you'll run into Digby in your imaginary airport. He's traveling too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted November 20, 2017 I think you're FOS, but I really don't care. Maybe you'll run into Digby in your imaginary airport. He's traveling too. You seem to care a whole lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 20, 2017 You seem to care a whole lot. What a fockin loser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 24, 2017 The TV audience for NFL games steepened its slide in Week 11, losing 1 million viewers versus last year’s season-to-date average. The 6.3 percent slump — worsening from comparable declines of 5.6 to 5.7 percent during the previous three weeks — plagued a week whose off-the-field drama made gridiron tackling seem almost tame by comparison. https://nypost.com/2017/11/22/the-nfl-ratings-slump-is-getting-worse/ http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl-tv-ratings-viewership-nbc-cbs-fox-espn-nfln-regular-season-playoffs/ Thursday's big NFL showdowns dominated Thanksgiving TV but by a slightly smaller margin than in 2016. The night's prime time game, Washington's 20-10 victory over the New York Giants, was down around 10 percent from the comparable NBC showing in 2016. The game averaged a 9.7 overnight rating among households. It's not as steep of a dip as the one seen last year, but it still stings on a night where little else is happening on TV. https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/tv-ratings-thanksgiving-nfl-sees-primetime-fatigue/ar-BBFBavH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKFORD 134 Posted November 25, 2017 if the kneelers are going to keep kneeling and rooning the nfl, lets find out what they are protesting and fix it. america, clean up your act. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 27, 2017 We hosted Thanksgiving at my house this year and only one person wanted to watch the NFL. I sent him to the basement and told him help yourself. He watched for maybe 30 minutes then tapped out too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 27, 2017 Attendance way down as well. I was shocked to see all those empty seats in Kansas City and Atlanta, amongst other places. Wait till next year and people don't renue their season tickets. That's some good kneeling boys! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted November 27, 2017 Attendance way down as well. I was shocked to see all those empty seats in Kansas City and Atlanta, amongst other places. Wait till next year and people don't renue their season tickets. That's some good kneeling boys! if you attend an NFL game and don't have money to burn, you're a focking idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted November 27, 2017 I don't think many players are still kneeling. I was surprised to see 3 Dolphins kneeling yesterday. One was Kenny Stills, who is an idiot. No Patriots kneeling. I think the number is less than 10 total across the NFL. Such a non-issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted November 27, 2017 I don't think many players are still kneeling. I was surprised to see 3 Dolphins kneeling yesterday. One was Kenny Stills, who is an idiot. No Patriots kneeling. I think the number is less than 10 total across the NFL. Such a non-issue. idiot? why would you say such a thing. He's in Brady's head after all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 27, 2017 The kneeleers (every team had them) are cutting their own throats. Wait till reality sets in and they don't get a nice fat check for their cut of the royalties on merchandise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 27, 2017 Thanksgiving ratings let’s compare some of the numbers to each of the past two years to see where we are (thanks to Sports Media Watch for the ratings info): • ESPN, Monday night, Atlanta at Seattle: 6.4 rating, a decline of 28.1 percent from Buffalo-New England in 2015 … a decline of 7.2 percent from Houston-Oakland last year. • FOX, Thanksgiving Day, Minnesota at Detroit: 11.4 rating, a drop of 7.3 percent from Philadelphia-Detroit in 2015 … a drop of 12.3 percent from Minnesota-Detroit last year. • CBS, Thanksgiving Day, Los Angeles Chargers at Dallas: 12.4 rating, a decrease of 19.0 percent from Dallas-Carolina in 2015 … a decrease of 20.5 percent from Dallas-Washington last year. • NBC, Thanksgiving night, New York Giants at Washington: 9.7 rating, a drop of 33.6 percent from Chicago-Green Bay in 2015 … a drop of 10.2 percent from Indianapolis-Pittsburgh last year. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/27/nfl-coaching-candidates-greg-schiano-tennessee-nfl-week-12-mmqb 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 27, 2017 I don't think many players are still kneeling. I was surprised to see 3 Dolphins kneeling yesterday. One was Kenny Stills, who is an idiot. No Patriots kneeling. I think the number is less than 10 total across the NFL. Such a non-issue. It's NOW basically a non-issue as the number steadily declined but a lot of the damage is already done. What I've come to realize is that I've been tuning into a declining product mostly out of habit. Now that I've stopped watching for a couple months, that habit is broken. You can be sure the other players are putting pressure on the remaining kneelers to quit it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted November 27, 2017 I blame the rating decline on global warming. It's just so nice outside that no one wants to sit and watch a football game on TV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted November 27, 2017 I like how the guys blaming kneeling for falling ratings are actually still watching football themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted November 27, 2017 I'm done arguing. These guys are SURE the decline in ratings is because of the kneeling and there is literally no way to change their minds. No one is talking about it anymore, it is literally a non story...but I'm just too tired to argue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 27, 2017 I'm done arguing. These guys are SURE the decline in ratings is because of the kneeling and there is literally no way to change their minds. No one is talking about it anymore, it is literally a non story...but I'm just too tired to argue. In hindsight I agree with you for the most part as I stated earlier on this page. It is a flawed product and it appears that I was watching mostly out of habit. Perhaps more and more people are coming to this realization as a result of tuning out because of the kneeling. It seems to be getting worse as the season wears on (as predicted) because more teams are eliminated from playoff contention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted November 27, 2017 In hindsight I agree with you for the most part as I stated earlier on this page. It is a flawed product and it appears that I was watching mostly out of habit. Perhaps more and more people are coming to this realization as a result of tuning out because of the kneeling. It seems to be getting worse as the season wears on (as predicted) because more teams are eliminated from playoff contention. Fair.....There is no doubt the NFL has lost fans due to this issue, and it is just adding to their already big problems. Not the way to handle things when the market is down. I also think there is some validity to the notion that what appears to be a declining interest in fantasy football has driven it down too. MAn I remember being SO into the games when I was into FF. Had 4 leagues at one time. Now only one. Interest is definitely not there 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted November 27, 2017 I like how the guys blaming kneeling for falling ratings are actually still watching football themselves. I watched some (patriots) on HD antenna. Does that count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 27, 2017 Fair.....There is no doubt the NFL has lost fans due to this issue, and it is just adding to their already big problems. Not the way to handle things when the market is down. I also think there is some validity to the notion that what appears to be a declining interest in fantasy football has driven it down too. MAn I remember being SO into the games when I was into FF. Had 4 leagues at one time. Now only one. Interest is definitely not there I haven't been paying attention. How are Fanduel/Draft Kings doing in all of this? They got to be hurting as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted November 27, 2017 I haven't been paying attention. How are Fanduel/Draft Kings doing in all of this? They got to be hurting as well. Dunno...Once I heard they were pretty much dominated by a few players I stopped caring about them. If I feel bad for anyone in this while mess, it's the local bar owners that are losing the revenues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 28, 2017 Lowest rated MNF of the year last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,593 Posted November 28, 2017 I have hardly watched at all this year. Most my coworkers are foreigners and do not follow nfl, my fantasy team sucks, and I do not like rooting for a front-runner team with a rapist at QB. After ben retires and the Steelers are crappy for a couple years the NFL will be more enjoyable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,555 Posted November 28, 2017 I've been eliminated from two of my three leagues this year. I've told my dynasty league colleagues I will not be back next season and when my playoff run ends in 12Geeks, that's the end of FF and the NFL for me, permanently. At the beginning of the year my enthusiasm level was the same as it was when i first started doing this twenty years ago. At that time, I would have guessed that I had another 40 years or however long until I'm dead and buried to enjoy this hobby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 29, 2017 OUCH! http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/nfl-tv-ratings-viewership-nbc-cbs-fox-espn-nfln-regular-season-playoffs/ I was told this would stop after the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 29, 2017 Owner at the local joint says he's not getting the direct Tv package next year unless they cut the price in half. He's getting killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 30, 2017 It seemed like the NFL could do no wrong. Limit practice time and ruin the quality of play on the field. No problem! Make the game 35% longer with no additional action. Don’t worry about it. Change the game so we cannot see if a TD, fumble, interception, or reception is legitimate without stop action replay. Not a big deal! Hold opening day on a Thursday, add a Thursday schedule. Great now fans can watch all the NFL football they want! Play games in London! Great more games to watch. And through all of this and more viewership continued to rise. Then a lone misguided player decided to kneel for the National Anthem in support of a bogus cause and ratings started to fall. The NFL and the media continued to blame everything but the player protests. Ratings continued to fall for the remaining of 2016 2017, ratings continue to fall while the NFL and the media deny it is the protests. TV stops showing the NA before the games Attendance continues to fall Unconditional Surrender: NFL Gives Players $89 Million for ‘Social Justice’ Spending with No Condition That Anthem Protests Will End We will see what happens Sunday but it looks like the NFL does think it has to with the protests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted November 30, 2017 It seemed like the NFL could do no wrong. Limit practice time and ruin the quality of play on the field. No problem! Make the game 35% longer with no additional action. Don’t worry about it. Change the game so we cannot see if a TD, fumble, interception, or reception is legitimate without stop action replay. Not a big deal! Hold opening day on a Thursday, add a Thursday schedule. Great now fans can watch all the NFL football they want! Play games in London! Great more games to watch. And through all of this and more viewership continued to rise. Then a lone misguided player decided to kneel for the National Anthem in support of a bogus cause and ratings started to fall. The NFL and the media continued to blame everything but the player protests. Ratings continued to fall for the remaining of 2016 2017, ratings continue to fall while the NFL and the media deny it is the protests. TV stops showing the NA before the games Attendance continues to fall Unconditional Surrender: NFL Gives Players $89 Million for ‘Social Justice’ Spending with No Condition That Anthem Protests Will End We will see what happens Sunday but it looks like the NFL does think it has to with the protests. You know what...You're right..It's the protests. The single reason the NFL is dying is cause of Kapernick and the players protesting. You win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKFORD 134 Posted November 30, 2017 it's stories like this that keep the nfl going Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 30, 2017 it's stories like this that keep the nfl going ROCKFORD posting a story about some guy named Butt. Stereotypes exist for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKFORD 134 Posted November 30, 2017 ROCKFORD posting a story about some guy named Butt. Stereotypes exist for a reason. quiet, he is my dyno stash of the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted December 1, 2017 You know what...You're right..It's the protests. The single reason the NFL is dying is cause of Kapernick and the players protesting. You win.Sorry, I never blamed it on the protests. You seem to have a bug up your butt about this, what is your problem? Get a life! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted December 1, 2017 Sorry, I never blamed it on the protests. You seem to have a bug up your butt about this, what is your problem? Get a life! You wrote this: Then a lone misguided player decided to kneel for the National Anthem in support of a bogus cause and ratings started to fall. The NFL and the media continued to blame everything but the player protests. So if that wasn't your point, whats your point? Maybe I misunderstood? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 1, 2017 You wrote this: Then a lone misguided player decided to kneel for the National Anthem in support of a bogus cause and ratings started to fall. The NFL and the media continued to blame everything but the player protests. So if that wasn't your point, whats your point? Maybe I misunderstood? Youre talking to phurphur. He hasnt had a point since the Nixon administration. Hes more of a throw sh!t at the wall and see what picture it makes kind of poster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted December 1, 2017 You wrote this: Then a lone misguided player decided to kneel for the National Anthem in support of a bogus cause and ratings started to fall.The NFL and the media continued to blame everything but the player protests. So if that wasn't your point, whats your point? Maybe I misunderstood? Those are the facts you can draw your own conclusion, I didn’t give mine. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted December 1, 2017 Those are the facts you can draw your own conclusion, I didn’t give mine. HTH Seriously? Ok then. You have no opinion on the matter. I wasn't aware. Thank you for the clarification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites