IGotWorms 3,310 Posted July 2, 2015 "Dr. John E. Sarno is a medical pioneer whose program has helped thousands of thousands of people overcome their back conditions--without or drugs or dangerous surgery. Now, using his grounbreaking research into TMS (Tension Mytostis Syndrome), Dr. Sarno goes one step further: after identifyig stress and other psychological factors in back pain, he demonstrates how many of his patiens have gone on to heal themselves without exercise or other physical therapy." Amazon.com ReviewHealing Back Pain promises permanent elimination of back pain without drugs, surgery, or exercise. It should have been titled Understanding TMS Pain, because it discusses one particular cause of back pain--Tension Myositis Syndrome (TMS)--and isn't really a program for self-treatment, with only five pages of action plan (and many more pages telling why conventional methods don't work). According to John E. Sarno, M.D., TMS is the major cause of pain in the back, neck, shoulders, buttocks, and limbs--and it is caused not by structural abnormalities but by the mind's effort to repress emotions. He's not saying that your pain is all in your head; rather, he's saying that the battle going on in your mind results in a real physical disorder that may affect muscles, nerves, tendons, or ligaments. An injury may have triggered the disorder, but is not the cause of the amount or intensity of the resulting pain. According to Sarno, the mind tricks you into not facing repressed emotion by making you focus on pain in the body. When this realization sinks in ("and it must sink in, for mere intellectual appreciation of the process is not enough"), the trick doesn't work any more, and there's no need for the pain. (Healing Back Pain should not be used for self-diagnosis. Always consult a physician for chronic or acute back pain.) --Joan Price --This text refers to the Paperback edition. I gather that Amazon is not a fan I'm going to read this thing and report back. But before I get to reading, what questions are in the minds of my fellow Geeks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 2, 2015 Sounds like a pain in the butt to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted July 2, 2015 "Dr. John E. Sarno is a medical pioneer whose program has helped thousands of thousands of people overcome their back conditions--without or drugs or dangerous surgery. Now, using his grounbreaking research into TMS (Tension Mytostis Syndrome), Dr. Sarno goes one step further: after identifyig stress and other psychological factors in back pain, he demonstrates how many of his patiens have gone on to heal themselves without exercise or other physical therapy." I gather that Amazon is not a fan I'm going to read this thing and report back. But before I get to reading, what questions are in the minds of my fellow Geeks? How much did you pay for it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,556 Posted July 2, 2015 Would Giants Fan still qualify for government disability benefits anyways even if the Sarno method successfully cures his 'back pain'? What about if a chiropractor cures him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted July 2, 2015 I'm going to read this thing and report back. But before I get to reading, what questions are in the minds of my fellow Geeks? Are the different colored Smarties supposed to be different flavors? I'm too impatient to eat them one by one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted July 2, 2015 What color poop do smurfs drop ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,192 Posted July 2, 2015 What problem(s) are you having which is leading you to read the book? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted July 2, 2015 What problem(s) are you having which is leading you to read the book? boredom? insomnia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted July 2, 2015 How much did you pay for it? One cent. Plus 3.99 shipping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted July 2, 2015 What problem(s) are you having which is leading you to read the book? What Sho Nuff said. Plus I'm hoping it will bring some entertainment to the bored Also I do have a back issue so it's not purely academic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted July 2, 2015 What Sho Nuff said. Plus I'm hoping it will bring some entertainment to the bored Also I do have a back issue so it's not purely academic I can tell you're carrying a lot of tension in your daddy-never-loved-me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTB 52 Posted July 3, 2015 "Dr. John E. Sarno is a medical pioneer whose program has helped thousands of thousands of people overcome their back conditions--without or drugs or dangerous surgery. Now, using his grounbreaking research into TMS (Tension Mytostis Syndrome), Dr. Sarno goes one step further: after identifyig stress and other psychological factors in back pain, he demonstrates how many of his patiens have gone on to heal themselves without exercise or other physical therapy." I gather that Amazon is not a fan I'm going to read this thing and report back. But before I get to reading, what questions are in the minds of my fellow Geeks? I'm going out on a limb and gonna guess regardless of what you think of the book you will have a snarky remark about it. You are already pot committed with your opinion. Title of thread. "I ordered Jerry's stupid book" Yep, you will give honest feedback. Lol! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted July 3, 2015 "Dr. John E. Sarno is a medical pioneer whose program has helped thousands of thousands of people overcome their back conditions--without or drugs or dangerous surgery. Now, using his grounbreaking research into TMS (Tension Mytostis Syndrome), Dr. Sarno goes one step further: after identifyig stress and other psychological factors in back pain, he demonstrates how many of his patiens have gone on to heal themselves without exercise or other physical therapy." I gather that Amazon is not a fan I'm going to read this thing and report back. But before I get to reading, what questions are in the minds of my fellow Geeks? Who is Jerry and why is it his stupid book ? He write it ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 476 Posted July 3, 2015 Are the different colored Smarties supposed to be different flavors? I'm too impatient to eat them one by one. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted July 3, 2015 +1 You guys can't be serious. They're decidedly different, and the white ones are the best. You don't have to eat them one at a time, but group like colors together and you'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted July 3, 2015 I'm going out on a limb and gonna guess regardless of what you think of the book you will have a snarky remark about it. You are already pot committed with your opinion. Title of thread. "I ordered Jerry's stupid book" Yep, you will give honest feedback. Lol! Nothing gets by you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted July 3, 2015 You guys can't be serious. They're decidedly different, and the white ones are the best. True. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted July 3, 2015 True.White is always the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted July 4, 2015 White is always the best. If you ain't white, you ain't right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted July 4, 2015 I believe, and I practice Zen techniques to help manage my pain. Try reading this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching and learn to strive for enlightenment, and harmony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 9, 2015 There's a guy on fbg in the suicide thread who mentioned on top of all his issues, he has sciatica or not sure what. I'll mention this book and see if any hilarity ensues- or what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted July 9, 2015 There's a guy on fbg in the suicide thread who mentioned on top of all his issues, he has sciatica or not sure what. I'll mention this book and see if any hilarity ensues- or what. Sounds like a super fun thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 9, 2015 Sounds like a super fun thread No it's not. Unlike here where people would more likely be mocked rather than really helped, it's pretty serious. Proud to say I have helped some folks over there. We lost a couple not long ago to suicide unfortunately. That's the only thread over there that if you mock someone or act stupid, you will be gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted July 9, 2015 No it's not. Unlike here where people would more likely be mocked rather than really helped, it's pretty serious. Proud to say I have helped some folks over there. We lost a couple not long ago to suicide unfortunately. That's the only thread over there that if you mock someone or act stupid, you will be gone. Sounds awesome for people who court drama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 9, 2015 Sounds awesome for people who court drama Definitely not a thread for you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted July 9, 2015 Definitely not a thread for you... I wish Worms had the balls to pull it off !!!(suicide) Alsonotreally IKindaLikeTheWormyFuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,192 Posted July 9, 2015 No it's not. Unlike here where people would more likely be mocked rather than really helped, it's pretty serious. Proud to say I have helped some folks over there. We lost a couple not long ago to suicide unfortunately. That's the only thread over there that if you mock someone or act stupid, you will be gone. While I appreciate the seriousness of the thread you mentioned, the bolded is crap. I got banned for registering with jerryskids as my username. If you fart upwind you get banned there. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,556 Posted July 9, 2015 While I appreciate the seriousness of the thread you mentioned, the bolded is crap. I got banned for registering with jerryskids as my username. If you fart upwind you get banned there. Just saying. I don't remember the user name but there was a quality guy there who I liked and respected who got banned for some mysterious undiscernible non-infraction. So I posted something like "You really should use more discretion when wielding the ban gun. (the guy) is a first rate poster and did nothing wrong that I can tell." And that's how I got banned. And that's why I came here and stopped going there anymore. I don't want to have someone with the maturity of an eight year old decide if I should go or stay; I don't need the aggravation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 9, 2015 It's a little harder to get banned now than I think it was then. They aren't as tight. They do more time outs than straight out bans. It's a different board, much different than here, which I like because I can be taken more serious over there. Although there's a small handful of sanct people that enjoy still bashing me on occasion. Whatever. I'm long over being sensitive about being bashed like that. I was pleasantly surprised that when I started my cancer thread over there that none of them showed up to mock or question me, unlike here. So there's good and bad to both boards for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted July 14, 2015 Well I got the book in the mail today (ordered a used copy so it took forever to get here). Haven't read a word yet but I'm thinking I'll delve into chapter one tomorrow. Might even get crazy with it and read the preface Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,192 Posted July 14, 2015 Well I got the book in the mail today (ordered a used copy so it took forever to get here). Haven't read a word yet but I'm thinking I'll delve into chapter one tomorrow. Might even get crazy with it and read the preface All I can say is, if you've spent months or years in some degree of back pain, there is a very good chance that this book can help and I would hope that you'd have an open mind, unless you are into the idea of spending the rest of your life with your back pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted July 14, 2015 Try not to kill yourself while reading it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted July 14, 2015 all that time reading, you could be stretching Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,192 Posted July 14, 2015 all that time reading, you could be stretching If you had read the book, you'd know that reading is more important than stretching in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted July 14, 2015 all that time reading, you could be stretching Were you abused as a child? Let it go man. Your back will feel better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted July 14, 2015 Were you abused as a child? Let it go man. Your back will feel better. mobb, it's not your fault. it's not you fault mobb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 360 Posted July 15, 2015 It's a cook book!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted July 15, 2015 It's a cook book!!!! audio? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 15, 2015 Well I got the book in the mail today (ordered a used copy so it took forever to get here). Haven't read a word yet but I'm thinking I'll delve into chapter one tomorrow. Might even get crazy with it and read the preface Well? Have you delved yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,192 Posted July 15, 2015 It's a cook book!!!! Twilight Zone reference? "To Serve Man." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites