Djgb13 2,338 Posted April 22, 2018 Good article. Basically states, that those people here are being vegan because they want to be cruelty free with what they eat are actually wrong. Because most of the forced, slave labor is in agriculture. Specifically, South Africa where quinoa is mainly grown and exported while the residents there are literally starving. https://www.providr.com/vegan-cruelty-free/?utm_source=Useless&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=providr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 22, 2018 Good article. Basically states, that those people here are being vegan because they want to be cruelty free with what they eat are actually wrong. Because most of the forced, slave labor is in agriculture. Specifically, South Africa where quinoa is mainly grown and exported while the residents there are literally starving. https://www.providr.com/vegan-cruelty-free/?utm_source=Useless&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=providr I didn’t read the article, but there is no way to be cruelty free. We are all competing for limited resources. But you can minimize your impact on the environment, instead of throwing your hands up at the inability to achieve perfection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted April 22, 2018 How are people starving in SA? I thought that was the gem of the continent and model for farming efficiency. I haven't been paying close attention for a couple decades. Please tell me the Negroes haven't taken over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,500 Posted April 23, 2018 It's long and I got bored reading about a subject I don't care about. I remember a chick who would only eat things that didn't kill the plant it came from. So even vegetables like potatoes, radishes, and carrots were out. I'm serious. All these rules about what's good and safe to eat and how to grow/harvest/collect it. Vitamin suppliments, they put a lot of thought into it. I thought she was nutty. Now that I live in China, I bet I'd enjoy eating at her house better than at any restaurant over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 23, 2018 It's long and I got bored reading about a subject I don't care about. Take it to the Chinese literature thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 23, 2018 It's long and I got bored reading about a subject I don't care about. I remember a chick who would only eat things that didn't kill the plant it came from. So even vegetables like potatoes, radishes, and carrots were out. I'm serious. All these rules about what's good and safe to eat and how to grow/harvest/collect it. Vitamin suppliments, they put a lot of thought into it. I thought she was nutty. Now that I live in China, I bet I'd enjoy eating at her house better than at any restaurant over here. Sounds like a fruitarian. Along with freegans, they have arguably the most ethical diet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted April 23, 2018 plus it's been proven that even plants have "feelings", yet most don't bleed red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,444 Posted April 23, 2018 plus it's been proven that even plants have "feelings", yet most don't bleed red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,161 Posted April 23, 2018 Sounds like a fruitarian. Along with freegans, they have arguably the most ethical diet. Says who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 23, 2018 Says who? Them, just ask em. Plenty of grass in my yard for people with ethics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,161 Posted April 23, 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/magazine/the-ethicist-contest-winner-give-thanks-for-meat.html Interesting read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 24, 2018 Says who?Nutritional ethicists? Also, look up what arguably means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 24, 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/magazine/the-ethicist-contest-winner-give-thanks-for-meat.html Interesting read. Much better than Dgb’s clickbait, but still pretty poorly argued. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted April 24, 2018 I think Pen is just salty because he is weak. Just needs more protein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 24, 2018 Nutritional ethicists? . wut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,249 Posted April 24, 2018 Thats pretty focking stupid, really. I mean if its cruelty reducing then you think youre winning some big focking argument because some farmer somewhere has it bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 24, 2018 wut https://www.foodethicscouncil.org/society/what-is-food-ethics.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 24, 2018 https://www.foodethicscouncil.org/society/what-is-food-ethics.html Yeah, lets go ahead and cut whatever funding that gaggle of nuts gets down to zero where it belongs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,161 Posted April 24, 2018 Nutritional ethicists? Also, look up what arguably means. That settles it. Bwahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,161 Posted April 24, 2018 https://www.foodethicscouncil.org/society/what-is-food-ethics.html Yeah, lets go ahead and cut whatever funding that gaggle of nuts gets down to zero where it belongs. UK wackos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 24, 2018 One would think GMOs would be at the top of the ethical pyramid. They are created for sustainability and require a minimum amount of resources for growth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 24, 2018 Yeah, lets go ahead and cut whatever funding that gaggle of nuts gets down to zero where it belongs. Yeah, I was kidding when I wrote my original response, but google revealed the reality. I guess its not any more ridiculous than a number of academic disciplines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 24, 2018 One would think GMOs would be at the top of the ethical pyramid. They are created for sustainability and require a minimum amount of resources for growth. In general I have no issue with them, but there are definitely concerns with promoting bioengineered crop monocultures. I guess that's not specific to GMOs though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,894 Posted April 24, 2018 https://www.foodethicscouncil.org/society/what-is-food-ethics.html Meh, seems like another angry dude complaining about food ethics. There are far bigger problems in the world, but if some of you guys want to fixate on this sh!t, have at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 24, 2018 Meh, seems like another angry dude complaining about food ethics. There are far bigger problems in the world, but if some of you guys want to fixate on this sh!t, have at it. I didn't start the thread, but I think its a slightly more important topic than political correctness And I must've missed the angry dude video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,894 Posted April 24, 2018 I didn't start the thread, but I think its a slightly more important topic than political correctness And I must've missed the angry dude video. Jordan Peterson talks about a LOT more than politcial correctness. I think the things he talks about are significantly more important than food ethics. I am good with agreeing to disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 24, 2018 Jordan Peterson talks about a LOT more than politcial correctness. I think the things he talks about are significantly more important than food ethics. I am good with agreeing to disagree. I'm sure he does. I only watched a couple video clips, which were fairly underwhelming. Truth be told, I can't help but think of Jordan Chase, the psychopathic motivational speaker who was one of Dexter's victims. Please don 't misunderstand me. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think food ethics or YouTube pop psychologists are very important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 24, 2018 Yeah, I was kidding when I wrote my original response, but google revealed the reality. I guess its not any more ridiculous than a number of academic disciplines. Yeah, Id rank it ahead of womens studies, aa studies, and any number of other supposed fields. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites