Taiwan, Trump, Rookie, China mad, yadda

[wiffleball 4,636]

Or is it JINE-a?

 

Guess he'll have to get his ties manufactured somewhere else now.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Don't worry...Raider Hater thinks its all good.\

Plus...Trump tweeted his explanation.

Its almost as if he doesn't really understand things...hmm...who could have seen that coming?

[Drizzay 645]

To be fair, no one should give a sh!t what Chiner thinks about anything.

[wiffleball 4,636]

Personally, with all the flat-out dangerous and belligerent that Chinas been pulling On our airplanes and Naval craft In the region I don't really give a s*** if we hurt their feelings diplomatically thru a f****** phone call.

 

But, Once he got his hand caught in the cookie jar, He immediately ran out to the interweb and claimed that he was just receiving a phone call. Turns out, His staffer Went to Taiwan to arrange this phone call.

 

Not like truth or facts matter anymore. And like I said, If this is the worst thing he pulls before Becoming president, I would be f****** shocked.

[jerryskids 5,190]

We do a -ton of business with Taiwan. TSMC is the largest semiconductor foundry in the world and significantly enables our tech industry. Should our president not talk to them because it makes China butt hurt?

[Sho Nuff 719]

We do a ######-ton of business with Taiwan. TSMC is the largest semiconductor foundry in the world and significantly enables our tech industry. Should our president not talk to them because it makes China butt hurt?

 

He should understand diplomacy and how it works before running his mouth.

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

If trump came out and said "I refuse to speak with Taiwanese government" The same people would have been calling him out.

 

I do not know whether it is a good idea or a bad idea, only time will tell, but it is the republicans reacting to Obama all over, just in reverse.

 

Shonuff is RP

Wiffle is Drobs

MDC is JTB

Honcho is Reality

etc

etc

[Sho Nuff 719]

If trump came out and said "I refuse to speak with Taiwanese government" The same news people would have been calling him out.

 

I do not know whether it is a good idea or a bad idea, only time will tell, but it is the republicans reacting to Obama all over, just in reverse.

 

Shonuff is RP

Wiffle is Drobs

MDC is JTB

Honcho is Reality

etc

etc

Not really...they would say he understands the situation and how diplomacy in that region works.

[MTSkiBum 1,594]

Not really...they would say he understands the situation and how diplomacy in that region works.

 

Bullsh1t, there is no need to pull a djgb, everyone knows the truth. You will call trump out for every decision he makes over the next 4 years regardless of what that decision is.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

Bullsh1t, there is no need to pull a djgb, everyone knows the truth. You will call trump out for every decision he makes over the next 4 years regardless of what that decision is.

Like how I said Mattis was a good pick?

The Taiwan this is a big deal and a fock up and it should be called out.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,575]

Sho nuff still defends obamas diplomacy on Iran. That's all that needs to be said.

 

You are 100% right mt ski

 

Way I look at it is worst case comparison would be China calling governor of California

[wiffleball 4,636]

I'm not dumb enough to be Drbeski. Can I be old man's nipple instead?

 

And I'm pretty sure I said I couldn't really give a crap Given what China has been doing Under the Obama Administration.

[penultimatestraw 473]

If trump came out and said "I refuse to speak with Taiwanese government" The same people would have been calling him out.

 

I do not know whether it is a good idea or a bad idea, only time will tell, but it is the republicans reacting to Obama all over, just in reverse.

 

Shonuff is RP

Wiffle is Drobs

MDC is JTB

Honcho is Reality

etc

etc

Ooo, can I be Big Guy????

[Sho Nuff 719]

Sho nuff still defends obamas diplomacy on Iran. That's all that needs to be said.

 

You are 100% right mt ski

 

Way I look at it is worst case comparison would be China calling governor of California

Because you are simple minded and don't understand a damn thing about diplomacy and China and Taiwan in particular.

[iam90sbaby 2,122]

Because you are simple minded and don't understand a damn thing about diplomacy and China and Taiwan in particular.

 

You do realize Trump is smarter than you, has a better understanding of diplomacy than you... or anyone else on this board for that matter.

 

Let the man do his job.

[Brad GLuckman 518]

Because you are simple minded and don't understand a damn thing about diplomacy and China and Taiwan in particular.

To be fair, half of the people claiming to be pissed about this had no idea they should even be pissed about it until the media told them they should be.

 

Admittedly, I understood some of the relationship between China and Taiwan, but had no idea our Pres hadnt contacted them in like 40 years. I doubt anyone here did.

[shotsup 832]

 

Bullsh1t, there is no need to pull a djgb, everyone knows the truth. You will call trump out for every decision he makes over the next 4 years regardless of what that decision is.

[drobeski 3,061]

I'm not successful enough to be Drbeski. Can I be old man's nipple instead?

 

And I'm pretty sure I said I couldn't really give a crap Given what China has been doing Under the Obama Administration.

fixed for accuracy

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

You do realize Trump is smarter than you, has a better understanding of diplomacy than you... or anyone else on this board for that matter.

 

Let the man do his job.

No...he has yet to show he understands Adam thing about diplomacy. Hence his foolish tweet after.

[Sho Nuff 719]

To be fair, half of the people claiming to be pissed about this had no idea they should even be pissed about it until the media told them they should be.

 

Admittedly, I understood some of the relationship between China and Taiwan, but had no idea our Pres hadnt contacted them in like 40 years. I doubt anyone here did.

Some...sure. I knew damn well you don't deal with Taiwan like this and howChina goes nuts over them.

[iam90sbaby 2,122]

No...he has yet to show he understands Adam thing about diplomacy. Hence his foolish tweet after.

 

So let me get this straight... you think you have a better understanding of how the world works than Trump? What would ever make you think that?

 

And its funny hearing you complain about his Twitter, when you literally have 45,000+ posts on FFToday of pure bullsh!t.

[mighty_thor 115]

We do a ######-ton of business with Taiwan. TSMC is the largest semiconductor foundry in the world and significantly enables our tech industry. Should our president not talk to them because it makes China butt hurt?

He shouldn't talk to them because we do not officially recognize the Taiwan government. China isn't butt hurt because they realize the Taiwan leader pulled one over on Trump. Taiwan even publicized the call. Not a smart move by Taiwan, IMO. Trump doesn't like to look bad and he holds grudges.

 

This was a major concern with Trump. Diplomacy is a delicate subtle art. Every word counts. This is different from business dealings. He needs a close advisor who is adept at foreign diplomacy who can screen his calls.

[wiffleball 4,636]

In fairness, his advisors thought he said he wanted to Tie One On!

 

[wiffleball 4,636]

"I just spoke with the leader of Thailand And we had a great conversation believe me a great one."

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

So let me get this straight... you think you have a better understanding of how the world works than Trump? What would ever make you think that?

 

And its funny hearing you complain about his Twitter, when you literally have 45,000+ posts on FFToday of pure bullsh!t.

PureBS is your biased an uninformed opinion and has nothing to do with our President elect being a child in twitter or him not yet showing he has a clue about diplomacy.

But obviously you are going to excuse anything he does.

[Sho Nuff 719]

He shouldn't talk to them because we do not officially recognize the Taiwan government. China isn't butt hurt because they realize the Taiwan leader pulled one over on Trump. Taiwan even publicized the call. Not a smart move by Taiwan, IMO. Trump doesn't like to look bad and he holds grudges.

 

This was a major concern with Trump. Diplomacy is a delicate subtle art. Every word counts. This is different from business dealings. He needs a close advisor who is adept at foreign diplomacy who can screen his calls.

He needs to take his briefings seriously...too many reports now that he isn't listening.

[wiffleball 4,636]

What's that Kelly Ann?

 

The lying media Says the Thais won?

 

How would they know? They weren't even there!

 

I won! I won! America won! There was so much winning I got sick of winning! It was Ooooge!

 

Kelly? Why are you crying?

[drobeski 3,061]

Did you guys feel the same way while Barry was jiving it up with Castro?

[crackattack 513]

Holy fake outrage by the "left" and the "independents" on this here board.

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/02/donald-trump-calls-taiwans-president-tsai-ing-wen-risking-diplomatic/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjfsZLsutjQAhXFiCwKHbcYBUcQFgg7MAo&usg=AFQjCNF9-aCm8NA7aWv37J7sP8JvS_jCSg&sig2=UnZRf-GE1TI_QVafU5xUFQ

 

 

 

Earlier, China's foreign minister, Wang Yi, downplayed the significance of the call between Taiwan's president and Mr Trump, saying it was "just a small trick by Taiwan" that he believed would not change US policy toward China, according to Hong Kong's Phoenix TV.

 

"The one-China policy is the cornerstone of the healthy development of China-US relations and we hope this political foundation will not be interfered with or damaged," Mr Wang was quoted as saying.

[cyclone24 1,814]

Holy fake outrage by the "left" and the "independents" on this here board.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/02/donald-trump-calls-taiwans-president-tsai-ing-wen-risking-diplomatic/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjfsZLsutjQAhXFiCwKHbcYBUcQFgg7MAo&usg=AFQjCNF9-aCm8NA7aWv37J7sP8JvS_jCSg&sig2=UnZRf-GE1TI_QVafU5xUFQ

Earlier, China's foreign minister, Wang Yi, downplayed the significance of the call between Taiwan's president and Mr Trump, saying it was "just a small trick by Taiwan" that he believed would not change US policy toward China, according to Hong Kong's Phoenix TV.

"The one-China policy is the cornerstone of the healthy development of China-US relations and we hope this political foundation will not be interfered with or damaged," Mr Wang was quoted as saying.

(Snort)......Wang.

 

Trump: "Hey Wang what's with the pictures...this is a parking lot!"

[Strike 3,957]

Sho,

 

Funny how concerned you are with "diplomacy" and yet you haven't even posted about the Senate's vote this week re: Iran sanctions. By all accounts we pissed Iran off pretty good with this one. Seems a stupid move diplomatically. I guess that doesn't matter since it wasn't a Trump move. More likely, you aren't even aware of WTF I'm talking about since it isn't being carried by MSNBC. But carry on with your ranting.

[crackattack 513]

(Snort)......Wang.

 

Trump: "Hey Wang what's with the pictures...this is a parking lot!"

Ha! To bad he's not named Dong. I always think of: "no more yankee my wanky, the donger need food". Really with any asian name I think this.

[Mike Honcho 4,015]

We do a ######-ton of business with Taiwan. TSMC is the largest semiconductor foundry in the world and significantly enables our tech industry. Should our president not talk to them because it makes China butt hurt?

 

 

If trump came out and said "I refuse to speak with Taiwanese government" The same people would have been calling him out.

 

I do not know whether it is a good idea or a bad idea, only time will tell, but it is the republicans reacting to Obama all over, just in reverse.

 

Shonuff is RP

Wiffle is Drobs

MDC is JTB

Honcho is Reality

etc

etc

 

 

 

You do realize Trump is smarter than you, has a better understanding of diplomacy than you... or anyone else on this board for that matter.

 

Let the man do his job.

 

 

 

China lodges complaint over Trump-Taiwan call

 

The chat marks the first publicly reported call between a US President or President-elect and the leader of Taiwan since Washington established diplomatic relations with Beijing in 1979, said Bonnie Glaser, a China expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. And it has prompted questions over whether Trump intends a shift in US policy, or if this was a blunder by a team with limited experience of international affairs.

 

But I'm sure you guys all knew that already...

(and seriously, Reality?, that hurts.)

 

He shouldn't talk to them because we do not officially recognize the Taiwan government. China isn't butt hurt because they realize the Taiwan leader pulled one over on Trump. Taiwan even publicized the call. Not a smart move by Taiwan, IMO. Trump doesn't like to look bad and he holds grudges.

 

This was a major concern with Trump. Diplomacy is a delicate subtle art. Every word counts. This is different from business dealings. He needs a close advisor who is adept at foreign diplomacy who can screen his calls.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,623]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm sure you guys all knew that already...

(and seriously, Reality?, that hurts.)

 

 

I'm sure Reality is happy about being compared to the former dumbest person here. Do you ever say thank god for Slownuff taking the heat off of you?

[drobeski 3,061]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm sure you guys all knew that already...

(and seriously, Reality?, that hurts.)

 

 

cnn ? Fake news much ?

[NorthernVike 2,080]

I'm not dumb enough to be Drbeski.

Don't sell yourself short kid.

[wiffleball 4,636]

(Snort)......Wang.

 

Trump: "Hey Wang what's with the pictures...this is a parking lot!"

LOL

[iam90sbaby 2,122]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I'm sure you guys all knew that already...

(and seriously, Reality?, that hurts.)

 

 

 

So just because no president has contacted Taiwan since 1979, that means Trump is making a mistake? Whose to say all the president's before him that didn't contact Taiwan were making a mistake? Clearly whatever has been going on since 1979 hasn't worked, lets try something new.

 

Also, anyone on this board that acts like they have a better understanding than Trump or anyone else on his administration..well that is just laughable. Please go back to your hourly job and let the man work.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Did you guys feel the same way while Barry was jiving it up with Castro?

Feel what way?

Cuba situation seems a bit different, no?

Are you against diplomacy with a neighbor? One that doesn't have potential to piss off a needed partner?

[Sho Nuff 719]

Holy fake outrage by the "left" and the "independents" on this here board.

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/02/donald-trump-calls-taiwans-president-tsai-ing-wen-risking-diplomatic/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjfsZLsutjQAhXFiCwKHbcYBUcQFgg7MAo&usg=AFQjCNF9-aCm8NA7aWv37J7sP8JvS_jCSg&sig2=UnZRf-GE1TI_QVafU5xUFQ

 

 

 

Earlier, China's foreign minister, Wang Yi, downplayed the significance of the call between Taiwan's president and Mr Trump, saying it was "just a small trick by Taiwan" that he believed would not change US policy toward China, according to Hong Kong's Phoenix TV.

 

"The one-China policy is the cornerstone of the healthy development of China-US relations and we hope this political foundation will not be interfered with or damaged," Mr Wang was quoted as saying.

That likely after the US talked it over with China. That you think it's fake outrage tone worried about the implications you are as clueless as raider hater.