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#1 KingOfTheJungle

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 02:56 PM

I've got both, and with Watson playing cupcake Cleveland at home and Rodgers playing at tough-defense Minnesota, I can't make up my mind.



#2 weepaws

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:06 PM

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:08 PM

Dont sit the guy who just had back to back 5td games. Rodgers is safer, but Watson is arguably the QB1 overall till he shows otherwise. Sounds nutty but thats the facts, cant argue with the scoreboard.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:09 PM

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:13 PM

Zimmer's Vikings have had a history of keeping half-a-lid on Rodgers' production.

 

Be bold and go with Watson.



#6 Phil Simms 11

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:19 PM

Starting Watson over Cam, but I may change my mind again.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:20 PM

Starting Watson over Cam, but I may change my mind again.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:30 PM

Really, you need to ask? You used top 3 picks on Rogers and now have to carry another QB for rest of the season, ouch. 



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

Really, you need to ask? You used top 3 picks on Rogers and now have to carry another QB for rest of the season, ouch.

Guys emerge out of nowhere, happens every year and those are the guys that end up on the winning teams. Its a real decision. Sometimes you have to jump on guys who break out. I drafted Wilson, didnt expect to carry 2 QBs. But then Wilson started sucking and Alex smith is blowing up so I am now starting Smith who is the QB2 in my league 2 point behind Brady. Things happen.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 03:38 PM

Yup, happens, but just unfortunate. For Wilson, you didn't spent a top pick on, def move on anytime.

 

If I have Rogers tho, I just think bench spot is too valuable. But that is different in every league. 



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:13 PM

it's rodgers in your lineup every week.  luckily you are in great shape if you lose rodgers or have bye week



#12 KingOfTheJungle

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:40 PM

I love Rodgers more than the dog in the commercial.

 

That's why I spent a high draft pick to grab him as the first QB off the board.

 

But I'm asking about this specific weekend ...

 

Rodgers is playing at Minnesota, where he was held to just 212 last year, and has done even worse in the past there.

 

Meanwhile, Watson (who I spent my 20th and final pick on) has back-to-back 5 TD games and is playing at home against Cleveland!

 

It if weren't for these two extreme scenarios I wouldn't even be asking.

 

Just wondered what you experts thought.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:09 PM

No way I could sit Rodgers for him...but Matt Ryan? I am willing to make that move.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:12 PM

I'm benching Brady for......the kid.
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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:14 PM

I have Watson and am very high on him this year and for his career. His matchup is clearly better so if you're going to take the bench Rodgers risk, this is the week. With that said, Watson WILL post a single digit week or two. If it burns you, it could be ugly. I guess it depends, Rodgers is a safer bet with lower upside this week. Watson has very high upside but will come down to earth eventually.

If I need the win and need a good QB weekend, Rodgers. If I'm feeling like a big underdog or favorite with some room to spare, Watson.

#16 weepaws

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:19 PM

I would start Rodgers.

But in no way is it crazy to bench him for Watson.

He's on fire.
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#17 KingOfTheJungle

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:01 PM

BTW, this is a 2K ante league and I am tied for 1st at 4-1.



#18 snatchit

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:05 PM

Rogers always has ho hum numbers at Minny. Watson is playing the Browns



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:38 PM

BTW, this is a 2K ante league and I am tied for 1st at 4-1.


One thing to consider is: how much will HOU have to score on CLE? How well will GB move the ball against MIN on the ground?

I think that GB only wins with passing TDs. I can see HOU winning with rushing TDs, and Miller/Foreman grinding the clock.

#20 tanatastic

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:58 PM

One thing to consider is: how much will HOU have to score on CLE? How well will GB move the ball against MIN on the ground?
I think that GB only wins with passing TDs. I can see HOU winning with rushing TDs, and Miller/Foreman grinding the clock.

I agree with this. They might not need a big day with multiple tds from Watson to win.

I would start Rodgers.
But in no way is it crazy to bench him for Watson.
He's on fire.

Thank you for this take, well said.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 09:59 PM

One thing to consider is: how much will HOU have to score on CLE? How well will GB move the ball against MIN on the ground?

I think that GB only wins with passing TDs. I can see HOU winning with rushing TDs, and Miller/Foreman grinding the clock.

 

CLE is a lot stronger against the run than they are against the pass.

 

In wk3 HOU played TEN with a porous defense and they piled on the points. The final was 57-14 and Watson threw for 4 TDs and ran for a 5th.



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 09:05 AM

This isn't crazy to consider. Its nearly a coin flip.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:06 AM

Trade one of them and roll with the other. 


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:08 AM

NFFC ... no trading in these leagues.



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:12 AM

keep in mind, last week Watson had one of the biggest garbage time games I have ever seen

 

that opportunity won't exist this week


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#26 SpenceToons

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:40 AM

One point that I'll concede in regards to Watson is that he's been operating with clean pockets the past few games and defenses may start scheming creative ways to attack and fluster him. That's not an issue with Rodgers since he's been around long enough that every angle of attack has been considered and we know he'll be able to tap dance around it. My money is on Watson ultimately finding his own way to use his feet to dispel tricky schemes.

 

And it's because of those clean pockets that i first began regarding Watson as more attractive than the QB I happened to draft - Russell Wilson - who's no slouch himself as the current QB8.



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:52 AM

Zimmer's Vikings have had a history of keeping half-a-lid on Rodgers' production.
 
Be bold and go with Watson.


Are you sure..?

I could be wrong here but I always thought historically Rodgers TORCHES the Vikings...

No chance i bench Rodgers here and this thread alone is why I'm high on him in DFS also.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:58 AM

It's not crazy, but at the same time, think of sample size. Watson is on fire. But the history of the league is full of guys who went on absolute tears...for four or five or six weeks. Do you bench an Aaron Rodgers for a Billy Volek? :) Watson has been tearing it up...for two games. One game before that which was 'pretty good'. 

 

Not saying he doesn't outproduce Rodgers for the rest of the season. Just saying that there aren't a lot of data points for Watson yet.



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:26 PM

Zimmer's Vikings have had a history of keeping half-a-lid on Rodgers' production.

 

Be bold and go with Watson.

 

 

Are you sure..?

I could be wrong here but I always thought historically Rodgers TORCHES the Vikings...

No chance i bench Rodgers here and this thread alone is why I'm high on him in DFS also.

 

To this point, Rodgers went 560/5 in two games against the Vikes last year, with 42/1 on the ground.



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:14 PM

Are you sure..?

I could be wrong here but I always thought historically Rodgers TORCHES the Vikings...

No chance i bench Rodgers here and this thread alone is why I'm high on him in DFS also.

 

I was going off my general impressions, which also happened to be backed up by the two gurus I read on a weekly basis. Of course, that's not good enough for the purposes of this post so I went back and checked.

 

GB and MIN have faced off six times in the regular season since Zimmer took over and here is how Rodgers fared for those particular weeks according to the FFtoday standard scoring QB page for those six games:

 

2014 wk 5......QB15

2014 wk 12 ...QB10

2015 wk 11....QB17

2015 wk 17....QB17

2016 wk2.......QB14

2016 wk16.....QB1

 

lol....that last game is a significant outlier ! Rodgers threw for 347 yds and 4 TDs. Since it is the most recent outcome, I wouldn't begrudge any Rodgers proponent from shaking a finger and saying, "See there ! "

 

But to anyone who is leaning heavily Rodgers over Watson for the question this thread poses, I ask if you've watched the YouTube highlights for Watson's last 3 games. If you haven't, spend the 15 minutes to view them and then you may well come back thinking, "Doggone, this is not as easy a call as I thought !"



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:26 PM

 

 

But to anyone who is leaning heavily Rodgers over Watson for the question this thread poses, I ask if you've watched the YouTube highlights for Watson's last 3 games. If you haven't, spend the 15 minutes to view them and then you may well come back thinking, "Doggone, this is not as easy a call as I thought !"

 

I for one agree with you on this point. I would personally (I don't own Watson anywhere) still have the back of one foot out of the water at the moment. Or at least still be wading in the shallow end. I and probably everyone have been burned by going all in on a guy who has a couple or a few great games and then is never heard from again. 

 

Watson looks good, and not just his stats. But again, it's still a small sample size. Not 'crazy' to start him over Rodgers. But certainly the riskier of the two options, I'd say. 



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