Vikings4ever 496 Posted December 13, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/video-espn-rob-parker-says-ridiculous-things-rg3-195448822--nfl.html Nobody will ever mistake ESPN's "First Take" show with anything remotely resembling insightful, important, or accurate journalism. The trainwreck bookmarked by Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith has adopted the slogan "Embrace Debate" to put a nice little hat on the fact that the show is actually the kind of dreck that makes the worst political commentary programs look like great television. As a result, it's tough to come on that show and actually be an embarrassment. Frequent ESPN talking head Rob Parker, however, went out of his way to do so when the subject of Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III came up on Thursday morning. Parker decided that it was the appropriate time to bring up whether Griffin was black enough or not. No, really. We'll just let the video and transcript roll. "I've talked to some people in Washington, D.C. Some people in [Griffin's] press conferences. Some people I've known for a long time. My question, which is just a straight, honest question, is ... is he a 'brother,' or is he a cornball 'brother?' He's not really ... he's black, but he's not really down with the cause. He's not one of us. He's kind of black, but he's not really like the guy you'd want to hang out with. I just want to find out about him. I don't know, because I keep hearing these things. He has a white fiancé, people talking about that he's a Republican ... there's no information at all. I'm just trying to dig deeper into why he has an issue. Tiger Woods was like, 'I have black skin, but don't call me black.' People wondered about Tiger Woods early on -- about him." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,442 Posted December 13, 2012 He'll never be as black as Colin Powell, I'll tell you that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 107 Posted December 13, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/video-espn-rob-parker-says-ridiculous-things-rg3-195448822--nfl.html black people called mlk jr an uncle tom. the collective dumb has grown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted December 13, 2012 If only peenie were here to answer this question...and then delete the thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,079 Posted December 13, 2012 Is RG3 black enough? Why, do you want to invite him to be our token? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted December 13, 2012 People actually WATCH First Take? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southcarolina 166 Posted December 13, 2012 The real story here is that Stephen A Smith is the one who ended up sounding like the sane rational one in the conversation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted December 14, 2012 My link So he likes white girls with big ol' titties? I'd say that's pretty black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted December 14, 2012 I hope Chris Matthews doesn't see this. The spiddle will fly for a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,516 Posted December 14, 2012 So he likes white girls with big ol' titties? I'd say that's pretty black. Maybe I'm black, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted December 14, 2012 Maybe I'm black, too? That's up to Mrs. Kutulu to decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,491 Posted December 14, 2012 People actually WATCH First Take? Like most shows, I can't and thus don't watch. But my guess is that the demographic group it targets doesn't overlap much with the Geek Club. ----- RG3 shouldn't have to do anything or be anything other than who he is. Just let the kid be who he is. Race is less polarizing with each generation. If RG3 is part of a post-racial America, bless him. As for Rob Parker, I respect him as a solid professional too (although that admiration has taken a solid hit today). I've read most if not all his columns for years since he was a respectable Detroit sports journalist until a couple of years ago. He use to be post-racial himself, the only way to know he was black was to see the pic next to the column. This is not the Rob Parker I know. I never saw race when I read a Parker column, I saw a fine writer doing a good job covering the hometeam and other offshoot subjects. So it disappoints me that his career has taken a setback and he's degenerated into comments like this. He use to be above looking at the athletes he covers and seeing race or lack thereof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted December 14, 2012 The is a quote from RGIII's Dad Robert is in really good shape on who he is, where he needs to get to in order to seek the goals he has in life ... so I don't take offense." Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/12/14/not-one-us-espn-commentator-slams-rgiii-over-gop-leanings-white-fiancee/#ixzz2F2aehPyG Being secure in who you are is one of the most important qualities a person can have. It is one of the biggest problems in American society. People do not know who they are or why they are here. They have no purpose, goals or challenges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,367 Posted December 14, 2012 The kind of stupidity that prevails in society, most notably in African American society......... shameful, ignorant, and sick...... but ever present. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted December 14, 2012 What exactly is the "cause" I hate Parker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,367 Posted December 14, 2012 What exactly is the "cause" I hate Parker Something along the lines of "we are so oppressed, look how hard our life is" type of sh!t. The "cause" is the effort to propagate the inferiority complex sold to the African American community to keep them in check. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 689 Posted December 14, 2012 What exactly is the "cause" I hate Parker Wob Parker is the biggest focking racist on the planet. He used to be on sports radio here and i got into a major argument with him on-air once over his thought that the NFL should apply equal opportunity to the hiring of NFL coaches. The call ended with his punkazz hanging up on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,516 Posted December 14, 2012 ESPN has now suspended him as they review the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,367 Posted December 14, 2012 ESPN has now suspended him as they review the situation. Oh, so now he gets to call them racists, what fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 811 Posted December 14, 2012 ESPN has now suspended him as they review the situation. I figured that was going to happen. Having class isn't a characteristic most blacks admire. In fact they criticize it, probably because it makes the rest of them look like scum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted December 14, 2012 White Like Me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted December 14, 2012 I figured that was going to happen. Having class isn't a characteristic most blacks admire. In fact they criticize it, probably because it makes the rest of them look like scum. Wow. Now that's racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 811 Posted December 14, 2012 Wow. Now that's racist. Maybe racist, definitely true. People with class should be admired, not criticized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,079 Posted December 14, 2012 Wow. Now that's racist. The truth hurts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Rusty 17 Posted December 14, 2012 Just another angry ignorant black man with a chimp on his shoulder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted December 14, 2012 Maybe racist, definitely true. People with class should be admired, not criticized. I agree with the latter statement. But to imply that an entire race of people are inherently lacking in class is simply racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 811 Posted December 14, 2012 I agree with the latter statement. But to imply that an entire race of people are inherently lacking in class is simply racist. You're right. I should have said "some" instead of "most". The point I was trying to make was calling someone an Uncle Tom because he has class is prevalent in the black community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,367 Posted December 14, 2012 I figured that was going to happen. Having class isn't a characteristic most blacks admire. In fact they criticize it, probably because it makes the rest of them look like scum. There is merit to this assertion. I do think that there is an element in African American society that believes one has "sold out" when one achieves success and conducts themselves in s morally responsible manner. Instead of assailing RG3, how about saying look people, here is what you should aspire to....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted December 14, 2012 There is merit to this assertion. I do think that there is an element in African American society that believes one has "sold out" when one achieves success and conducts themselves in s morally responsible manner. Instead of assailing RG3, how about saying look people, here is what you should aspire to....... and there are millions of Black Americans they could use for examples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,491 Posted December 14, 2012 chimp Is that a typo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,491 Posted December 14, 2012 There is merit to this assertion. I do think that there is an element in African American society that believes one has "sold out" when one achieves success and conducts themselves in s morally responsible manner. Instead of assailing RG3, how about saying look people, here is what you should aspire to....... Sure beats aspiring to be 50 Cent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,084 Posted December 15, 2012 There is merit to this assertion. I do think that there is an element in African American society that believes one has "sold out" when one achieves success and conducts themselves in s morally responsible manner. Instead of assailing RG3, how about saying look people, here is what you should aspire to....... This will never happen. For something like this to take place Shelia Jackson Lee, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the NAACP, the Democratic party etc. would have to acknowledge that most black people in the USA are in the position they are because of their own actions. Personal responsibility is strictly frowned upon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted December 15, 2012 This will never happen. For something like this to take place Shelia Jackson Lee, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the NAACP, the Democratic party etc. would have to acknowledge that most black people in the USA are in the position they are because of their own actions. Personal responsibility is strictly frowned upon. ...Which is why with the OVERWHELMING majority (but not "all" mind you, so it's racist to point this out ) of black folks, Al Sharpton, Quanell X, Obummer's preacher and all the other 'community activists' are heroes while guys like Bill Cosby, David Robinson and RG3 are "sell outs". SO much easier to find out the reason you're a F up has nothing to do with your own actions and choices. Ironically, that's how the Klan rose to power: "Hey white trash - you lost your job because of the N's. Your life sux because of the N's" It's not like Sharpton et al invented this scheme - they just stole the idea from whitey. Not surprised to hear this 'journalist' is from Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,084 Posted December 15, 2012 ...Which is why with the OVERWHELMING majority (but not "all" mind you, so it's racist to point this out ) of black folks, Al Sharpton, Quanell X, Obummer's preacher and all the other 'community activists' are heroes while guys like Bill Cosby, David Robinson and RG3 are "sell outs". SO much easier to find out the reason you're a F up has nothing to do with your own actions and choices. Ironically, that's how the Klan rose to power: "Hey white trash - you lost your job because of the N's. Your life sux because of the N's" It's not like Sharpton et al invented this scheme - they just stole the idea from whitey. Not surprised to hear this 'journalist' is from Detroit. Good reference to Klan. Never thought about it but you are exactly right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBlade 3 Posted December 15, 2012 You know, it's amazing that the black people that have class aren't really looked at as black. They're gray, just like everybody else with some class. Every race has mouthbreathers that make the rest look bad (some more than others), and there are racial slurs for every single one of them. But it's not about skin color in my book, it's about having class. And just because somebody has money doesn't mean they have class. I've seen plenty of duplexes in the hood where the dirt yard is raked clean and the old vehicles are clean and in good working order. Those people don't have much money, but they have some class and respect what they do have. RGIII was raised right. He's well spoken, humble yet confident, and carries himself the way a successful person should. The dude has class regardless of his skin color. /rant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,491 Posted February 16, 2013 Bumping this thread because I've discovered the definitive answer Black man: Black Black woman: Black Black man with White wife: White Black woman with White husband: Still Black to everyone but Black men White man with Black wife: Kinda Black, actually White man with White Wife but very Black-friendly politics and opinions: First Black president White woman with Black husband: White woman! Single White woman with very Black-friendly politics and opinions: Still White woman White woman genuinely down for the cause: Good try, but always and forever a White woman White woman who’s not even technically a White woman: I see your White ass. You can’t hide Black male politician: Hmm. Depends. Liberal Black male politician: Black Liberal Black male politician with White wife: Still Black, but barely Conservative Black male politician: Is he Colin Powell? No. White, then. Gay Black man: Woman Gay White man: White Bisexual Black man: Woman Straight Black man who did one (slightly) homosexual act 15 years ago: WOMAN! Stop playin! Black lesbian: Is she cute? Kinda, but not really. Man White lesbian: I have no clue Poor White people: Where are they from? Actually, nevermind. That doesn’t matter. Still White Poor Black people: Blacker than the back of Forest Whitaker’s neck Poor Black woman: Black Man Wealthy Black people: Need more info Wealthy Black people from Atlanta or the DMV: Black Wealthy Black people from anywhere else: Still Black, but barely Black male cop: White Man Black female cop: White Man Black male or Black female cop on The Wire: Well, although those were completely fictional characters that didn’t actually exist and not real people, they were nuanced portrayals of real people. Therefore, while all Black cops in real life are White devils, Black male or Black female cop on The Wire: Black man and Black woman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted October 23, 2014 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/report--some-of-russell-wilson-s-teammates-don-t-think-he-s--black-enough-145622948-nfl.html Per Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report, there is a sentiment in the Seahawks' locker room that Russell Wilson isn't "black enough." While most of this dust is being kicked up in the wake of Percy Harvin's departure from Seattle and could easily settle if the Seahawks get back to their winning ways, Freeman joined The Dan Patrick Show to discuss the widespread reports of discord in Seattle and more specifically, the players' feelings toward Wilson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites