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Instant Fantasy Analysis - WR Cooper Kupp, Rams

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General NFL fans will probably roll their eyes at a receiver from FCS Eastern Washington, but that would be a mistake. Kupp is the most productive receiver in college football history, and it isn't just a function at playing at a lower level of football. No Division I wideout EVER did what he did in four seasons: 428 catches, 6,464 receiving yards and 73 receiving touchdowns. Not good enough? Fine. Eastern Washington played three Power-5 programs over Kupp's last three seasons: Washington in 2014, Oregon in 2015 and Washington State in 2016. The totals in those three games: 35 catches, 597 yards and eight TDs. (In case you need a reminder, Washington had Marcus Peters and a young Sidney Jones three years ago.) Kupp likely profiles as a long-term slot in HC Sean McVay's offense, which will probably try to use him in the same way Washington has utilized Jamison Crowder. Kupp has more upside, however, and could very well emerge as the Rams' top receiving before the end of the season. His arrival, along with that of TE Gerald Everett, gives Jared Goff a fighting chance at owning the middle of the field at some point in the near future.

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I loved watching him in the Senior Bowl, and wish him every success.

 

However, I'd hoped to see him land in a better situation - like one that didn't involve the NFC West and the fricking Rams. : )

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It's a good landing spot for him, based on playing right away.

 

Don't see anyway possible he's not the Rams wr1.

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i just talked to a db who played against him. says he is a beast.

 

im hoping he falls to #28.

 

too bad he is a ram but, a future #1wr on any team is valuable comodity.

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No problem take a mid to late round flyer on him in some leagues. Could pay dividends right away. Sure a lot of people will be overy looking him.

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Great spot for him.

 

Diffently can get the job done, and should develop into the Rams wr1.

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i just talked to a db who played against him. says he is a beast.

 

im hoping he falls to #28.

 

too bad he is a ram but, a future #1wr on any team is valuable comodity.

Just refer to the numbers I mentioned above against Pac-12 competition. He's going to have himself a nice little career.

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It's a good landing spot for him, based on playing right away.

 

Don't see anyway possible he's not the Rams wr1.

you can debate whether he is a WR1 or a WR2 or even a WR3 on the Rams.

 

The important thing is that he will get the opportunity to start right away. This early experience should help him develop as a player more quickly than he would if he had to sit on the bench.

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you can debate whether he is a WR1 or a WR2 or even a WR3 on the Rams.

 

The important thing is that he will get the opportunity to start right away. This early experience should help him develop as a player more quickly than he would if he had to sit on the bench.

 

I'm not saying I'm right... but Kupp is a guy you wait a year or 2 to draft. I think Goff is going just utterly suck. Because of that, I don't think any WR in LA will put up any fantasy worthy numbers. For that reason, I'd let a couple years go by for him to put up crappy numbers and then get him on the cheap when the Rams replace Goff... probably 2019.

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I'm not saying I'm right... but Kupp is a guy you wait a year or 2 to draft. I think Goff is going just utterly suck. Because of that, I don't think any WR in LA will put up any fantasy worthy numbers. For that reason, I'd let a couple years go by for him to put up crappy numbers and then get him on the cheap when the Rams replace Goff... probably 2019.

well, you arent drafting him in a redraft league. That's for sure.

 

He would be a player you put on your watch list. He will become a priority free agent if he starts out the year with a bang.

 

in a dynasty league, you probably would pick him now because you have a larger bench and have the luxury of being able to sit him for a year or two until he is ready.

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Agree he's not going to be worth much in a redraft league, but a keeper league I would go after him.

 

Based on who the Rams now have on their roster at the wr position, he should easily become their wr1.

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I'm not sure what you guys are seeing. The kid is slow, had most of his plays designed for him and were behind the line of scrimmage, and he's not quick off the line, which is what a slot guy needs to be. It's sorta funny as the mock drafts loved this kid, yet the scouts were not enamored with him in the least. If you listen to the Scouts, or former scouts, on the NFL Radio network, none thought this kid will amount to more than a 3rd WR. Bubble screens in the NFL simply do not work unless you have the speed and agility to go with the play. He does not.

 

As for the Rams - They have Robert Woods and Austin. How many WR's do you need on a run first team? They also have two TE's that were drafted specifically to catch the ball over the last two drafts. If you are looking for a serious sleeper in dynasty formats for 2018, take the TE they drafted this year. Hell, the kid is as fast as this WR, more agile and quicker off the line. He may end up being the Jordan Reed of the Rams, which is FAR more than Kupp will ever be.

 

People are sleeping on Robert Woods. He will play the Garcon role in the Rams offense. He should hit 1,000 yards receiving based on volume alone. If Goff can do anything at all, either the TE position, or the Rams #1WR (Woods), will be starter worthy against weaker defenses. Don't waste your time on Kupp. This one is a dog with fleas.

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He's better than any wr the Rams currently roster.

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I'm not sure what you guys are seeing. The kid is slow, had most of his plays designed for him and were behind the line of scrimmage, and he's not quick off the line, which is what a slot guy needs to be.

Hey man, I got news for you:

 

Most WR's at the pro level have plays designed specifically to capitalize on their special abilities. This is also true in college. it especially applies to the top WR's. He's no different than any other top WR prospect in this way. If you are saying that he had special plays written up for him, I'm saying so did all the other WR's out there.

 

That's what they call good coaching. If he's in a program that is reasonably decent, this is expected.

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Maybe I didn't write this correctly.... My issue is not that he had plays drawn up for him. My issue is that the plays drawn up were all behind the line of scrimmage and he didn't play against very good competition. You think a guy running a 4.62 who was used primarily on bubble screens in college is going to amount to something on an offense where he's the third option to begin with and a crap QB? lol I don't. Call me naïve I suppose.

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He's better than any wr the Rams currently roster.

 

I typically agree with many of your posts, but he is not in any way, shape or form, better than Robert Woods. It's highly debatable if he's better than Austin and questionable if he's better than either TE currently on the roster.

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Austin has a stat line of.

 

45 rec 410 yards 9.1 avg 4 tds, that's his avg over his four seasons. For a speed burner that he was supposed to be a 9.1 avg looks very poor.

 

Woods.

 

50 rec 612 yards 12.2 avg 4 tds his four season avg.

 

I think they both look very avg to me.

 

In a redraft league I'm not buying any of them, in a keeper league I'm going to pick Kupp over either one of them like I posted.

 

But I do indeed think he will surly be the one to own.

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Maybe I didn't write this correctly.... My issue is not that he had plays drawn up for him. My issue is that the plays drawn up were all behind the line of scrimmage and he didn't play against very good competition. You think a guy running a 4.62 who was used primarily on bubble screens in college is going to amount to something on an offense where he's the third option to begin with and a crap QB? lol I don't. Call me naïve I suppose.

Kupp DOMINATED his level of competition and was arguably even better against the top competition he faced. Go back to what I said in the initial post:

 

Eastern Washington played three Power-5 programs over Kupp's last three seasons: Washington in 2014, Oregon in 2015 and Washington State in 2016. The totals in those three games: 35 catches, 597 yards and eight TDs. (In case you need a reminder, Washington had Marcus Peters and a young Sidney Jones three years ago.)

 

Those were not all bubble screens, I assure you. At Senior Bowl practices, I only saw him play outside and he could not be guarded there either.

 

Having said that, I'm not saying Kupp is going to dominate the NFL at any point of his career. He's probably going to be the Rams' primary slot and McVay will probably use him like he used Jamison Crowder. In the slot, quickness and route-running are more important than 40 speed. I don't think he'll ever be a true No. 1 in the NFL, but I think he can certainly be a damn good No. 2 if used correctly.

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Austin has a stat line of.

 

45 rec 410 yards 9.1 avg 4 tds, that's his avg over his four seasons. For a speed burner that he was supposed to be a 9.1 avg looks very poor.

 

Woods.

 

50 rec 612 yards 12.2 avg 4 tds his four season avg.

 

I think they both look very avg to me.

 

In a redraft league I'm not buying any of them, in a keeper league I'm going to pick Kupp over either one of them like I posted.

 

But I do indeed think he will surly be the one to own.

agreed. Woods has at least shown signs of reaching his potential, but Austin hasnt even had a 500 yard season and he has played 4 years now.

 

at this point in time, neither of these guys is a true #1.

 

Woods would likely be a #2 WR on most teams.

 

That's not to say there's not #1 potential. He just hasnt developed to that point.

 

I think the opportunity is there for this kid. And a large part of being successful at the NFL level is opportunity. If you get the opportunity, things can happen.

 

Like I said, I expect he will be the #3 guy before the season starts and if he plays well and/or Austin plays poorly (or both) or if Austin or Woods gets hurt, He'll be getting all the opportunity he needs.

 

I still wouldnt bet on him overtaking Woods on the Depth chart, but stranger things HAVE happened.

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I'm not sure what you guys are seeing. The kid is slow, had most of his plays designed for him and were behind the line of scrimmage, and he's not quick off the line, which is what a slot guy needs to be. It's sorta funny as the mock drafts loved this kid, yet the scouts were not enamored with him in the least. If you listen to the Scouts, or former scouts, on the NFL Radio network, none thought this kid will amount to more than a 3rd WR. Bubble screens in the NFL simply do not work unless you have the speed and agility to go with the play. He does not.

 

As for the Rams - They have Robert Woods and Austin. How many WR's do you need on a run first team? They also have two TE's that were drafted specifically to catch the ball over the last two drafts. If you are looking for a serious sleeper in dynasty formats for 2018, take the TE they drafted this year. Hell, the kid is as fast as this WR, more agile and quicker off the line. He may end up being the Jordan Reed of the Rams, which is FAR more than Kupp will ever be.

 

People are sleeping on Robert Woods. He will play the Garcon role in the Rams offense. He should hit 1,000 yards receiving based on volume alone. If Goff can do anything at all, either the TE position, or the Rams #1WR (Woods), will be starter worthy against weaker defenses. Don't waste your time on Kupp. This one is a dog with fleas.

 

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