Davante Parker (what is his floor / ceiling?

[oldtimer 84]

I have been thinking of trading for him. I am in some leagues were the owners are not enamored with Parker. I have several questions regarding his future; Will he play second fiddle to Landry, or will he overtake him as the clear franchise WR in the future? Can he beat press coverage? He seemed to struggle with it over the final 6 games last season. He doesn't seem to make great cuts, but he has a massive wingspan and catches everything. I have seen him compared to AJ Green and Dez Bryant, but also seen him compared to Hakeem Nicks, which is a bit scary. Even before all the injuries, defenses seemed to figure out Nick's game and plan well for it.

 

Gase is the other piece of this. I love what he does with QB's and WR's. I don't know how he views Parker though. Plus, their WR Corps is pretty deep in Miami....

 

What do you think his ceiling and floor is? I see his ceiling being a high end WR2 and possibly taking the lead dog position over Jarvis Landry by the end of the season. On the flip side, I see his floor as a WR3 (high end) that takes a clear back seat to Landy and never becomes more than a streaky WR.

 

What say you?

[Kent 228]

Tanny is not a good QB and outlets to Landrey. This keeps the Parker expectations fairly low for me. May be a good late round pick with bye week hopes and dreams.

[R8RMick 242]

Tannehill is an overrated clown with a hot girlfriend. But I'm hopefull that Parker's skills will overcome that. Really he was right there with Coop and Kevin White in that draft, but his foot injury held him back.Josh Gordon excelled with scrub QBs, it can be possible for talented receivers.

[Matt Mueller 146]

Just to play devils advocate here are the passing stats of 2 Qbs that came out in 2012, one of which is Tanny.

 

64 games 61.9 %- 15,460 yards 80 tds 54 ints 85.2 rating

55 games 58.1 % 14,838 yards 101 tds 55 ints 85 Rating

[giraldi02 470]

Just to play devils advocate here are the passing stats of 2 Qbs that came out in 2012, one of which is Tanny.

 

64 games 61.9 %- 15,460 yards 80 tds 54 ints 85.2 rating

55 games 58.1 % 14,838 yards 101 tds 55 ints 85 Rating

 

I love me the Luck/Tanny references

[weepaws 2,450]

Parker is going to be the best wr from last years draft .

 

I've said it earlier this summer that I think he could be a top 12 wr this season .

[BobSanders_33 127]

I like him playing the D Thomas/Jefferies role in the Gase offense. He was a play maker on the field last year. If Miami is going up tempo there is a chance that he could have a big year and bright future.

[doggiestyles 1]

I'll bite

 

Floor 65 rec 700-800yds 6-7tds

Ceiling 90 rec 1100-1200yds 9-12tds

[R8RMick 242]

Parker is going to be the best wr from last years draft .

 

I've said it earlier this summer that I think he could be a top 12 wr this season .

Wow, better than Coop?

[weepaws 2,450]

Wow, better than Coop?

I'm not even sure if Cooper is the best wr on his own team .

[giraldi02 470]

WTF

[tanatastic 2,061]

He's a late round wr4 to me or a risky wr3. Landry is the man in Miami. When Parker does something, then I'll talk about him for next year.

[rholio 339]

40 catches / 450yds 3 TDs. I see a very low floor for this guy.

 

65 catches / 900yds 8 TDs.

[General Gannicus 12]

Both ceiling and floor are high enough with Parker for me to hate the fact that I may be "stuck" keeping Landry as one of my 3 keepers.. I think Parker is the eventual #1 in Miami and it may be as early as this September in the new offense...

[Vikings4ever 496]

40 catches / 450yds 3 TDs. I see a very low floor for this guy.

 

65 catches / 900yds 8 TDs.

Well, last year, in pretty much half a season, he went 26/494/3, so your projected floor's pretty low.

[R8RMick 242]

I'm not even sure if Cooper is the best wr on his own team .

Oh Lord no, please don't make that mistake.

[weepaws 2,450]

Oh Lord no, please don't make that mistake.

Will when it comes to fantasy football I want the player that's going to score for me the most points .

 

I'm not sure the Crabtree won't out score Copper .

[rholio 339]

Well, last year, in pretty much half a season, he went 26/494/3, so your projected floor's pretty low.

Agreed... thinking health issues again this year. Add in Carroo waiting to take his spot, and I'm not a fan.

[R8RMick 242]

Will when it comes to fantasy football I want the player that's going to score for me the most points .

 

I'm not sure the Crabtree won't out score Copper .

 

The Raiders brought Coop along slowly last year, and actually limited his looks inside the red zone. In fact, of their 23 pass attempts inside the ten Cooper was not targeted on any of them. This was a big reason the kid only scored 6 TDs. Atlanta did the same thing with Julio Jones, who saw 10 looks his second year, and I see that happening with Coop as well. True, Amari isn't quite the athlete Julio is, but he's light years ahead of Crabs, who has limited wheels.

 

Of the 41 WRs who caught at least 100 passes over the last two years, only two averaged fewer yards per catch than Crabtree. He's Oakland's sure handed possession guy, sort of like a TE lining up wide.

 

Fantasy Football Index is looking at probably 90 catches-1300 yds-with double digit TDs for Coop, and I can definitely see that happening. Don't miss that bus for a guy like Crabtree.

[weepaws 2,450]

Good post Mick .

 

I think Crabtree is the better value .

 

So if I miss out and your right , will at least you told me so .

[R8RMick 242]

Good post Mick .

 

I think Crabtree is the better value .

 

So if I miss out and your right , will at least you told me so .

Actually you're probably right, Crabs does have good value. Would like to see his production go up inside the ten, as he only converted 2 of 8 targets.

[SexyRexy 60]

His floor is kenny stills. His ceiling is AJ green

[SpenceToons 70]

With the arrival of Arian Foster, Miami will now have two big name targets (Landry) operating in the short area of the field on passing downs. Does this make it a little less likely Tannehill does the hard work of stretching himself to develop that longer range passing game with Parker ?

[weepaws 2,450]

Opens it up even more .

 

Second assuming that Foster makes it very long . Last two seasons don't give me any kind of trust that he can .

[SpenceToons 70]

...Second assuming that Foster makes it very long . Last two seasons don't give me any kind of trust that he can .

 

 

On that second point, I'm betting we'll see a significant difference in the way Foster is used this year. Last year he was an every down back. This time around, I think the coaches will try to cut the injury risk by limiting him to passing down work

[weepaws 2,450]

...Second assuming that Foster makes it very long . Last two seasons don't give me any kind of trust that he can .

 

 

 

On that second point, I'm betting we'll see a significant difference in the way Foster is used this year. Last year he was an every down back. This time around, I think the coaches will try to cut the injury risk by limiting him to passing down work

Ok I agree , and with the that said , that makes the value of Ajayi which is surly to drop even a better value .

 

I don't see much value in Foster .

[oldtimer 84]

Foster had the benefit of running against the Titans, Texans and Colts over the last several years. Now he gets the Patriots, Jets and Bills. I see a big difference in the quality of the defensive lines and linebackers he has faced vs. the ones he will now be facing..... As you said, he should be used on passing downs to keep him off IR. Gase does know how to use his RB's, so Foster could have some value in PPR formats. If they use Foster on shorter routes and Parker for the intermediate routes, Tannehill will have some nice options.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Foster had the benefit of running against the Titans, Texans and Colts over the last several years. Now he gets the Patriots, Jets and Bills. I see a big difference in the quality of the defensive lines and linebackers he has faced vs. the ones he will now be facing..... As you said, he should be used on passing downs to keep him off IR. Gase does know how to use his RB's, so Foster could have some value in PPR formats. If they use Foster on shorter routes and Parker for the intermediate routes, Tannehill will have some nice options.

Foster ran against his own team?

[weepaws 2,450]

That's a bonus for fantasy football .