KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 They DO NOT perform mammograms. Prolly moon landing but I was a bit shocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted October 10, 2018 They DO NOT perform mammograms. Prolly moon landing but I was a bit shocked. And yet when they are afraid their funding from the Gubmint is going to be cut, they scream and shout that they won't be able to do mammograms or other needed services anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 10, 2018 Tells you how 'interested' they are in providing care for women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 And yet when they are afraid their funding from the Gubmint is going to be cut, they scream and shout that they won't be able to do mammograms or other needed services anymore. You just putting words in their mouths now? Really, this shouldn't be surprising to anybody. talk to anybody here who has had a scan of their liver or kidneys or lungs or anything else. Your doctor doesn't walk you into special room where they have their 25 million dollar MRI machine. First phase of any breast exam is the Tactical face. You look for lumps and other abnormalities. If that test reveals concerns, then, just like any other doctor and any other major scan, you are sent to a third-party service provider. This sounds like one of those shocking Sean Hannity things that isn't shocking at all if you got a brain in your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 25 million dollars seems high for a mammogram machine? I may have to call BS. I mean, at the State Fair they have them in the back of a tractor trailer. All the women I know go to either a GP or OBGYN. And IF something pops up on the mammogram then they go to a specialist (cancer). Of course I know real life breathing women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted October 10, 2018 All they do is kill babies. Why would they be concerned about feeding them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 10, 2018 Planned Parenthood is mostly about abortions, which is fine by me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 Planned Parenthood is mostly about abortions, which is fine by me. I think that is false too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted October 10, 2018 You just putting words in their mouths now? Really, this shouldn't be surprising to anybody. talk to anybody here who has had a scan of their liver or kidneys or lungs or anything else. Your doctor doesn't walk you into special room where they have their 25 million dollar MRI machine. First phase of any breast exam is the Tactical face. You look for lumps and other abnormalities. If that test reveals concerns, then, just like any other doctor and any other major scan, you are sent to a third-party service provider. This sounds like one of those shocking Sean Hannity things that isn't shocking at all if you got a brain in your head. You hate wimmens more than anyone I've ever seen. Why do you give two shits about PP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted October 10, 2018 Mammograms are unhealthy / dangerous anyway. But still, PP is evil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted October 10, 2018 Planned Parenthood is mostly about abortions, which is fine by me. Would you feel the same way if they got ahold of your mom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted October 10, 2018 You just putting words in their mouths now? Really, this shouldn't be surprising to anybody. talk to anybody here who has had a scan of their liver or kidneys or lungs or anything else. Your doctor doesn't walk you into special room where they have their 25 million dollar MRI machine. First phase of any breast exam is the Tactical face. You look for lumps and other abnormalities. If that test reveals concerns, then, just like any other doctor and any other major scan, you are sent to a third-party service provider. This sounds like one of those shocking Sean Hannity things that isn't shocking at all if you got a brain in your head. Huh? Really? https://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/planned-parenthood-and-mammograms/ "Obama said: “When Governor Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for not just contraceptive care. They rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings.” Obama used a similar line again on Oct. 18, telling a Manchester, N.H., crowd: “Governor Romney said he’d end funding for Planned Parenthood, despite all the work it does to provide women with mammograms and breast cancer screenings.”" https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/03/martin-omalley/97-planned-parenthoods-work-mammograms-preventive-/ "The vast majority of Planned Parenthood’s work goes toward mammograms and preventive care, said former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley... I do know that 97 percent of the work that Planned Parenthood does is about mammograms and preventative health" https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/washington-post-repeated-misleading-claim-that-planned-parenthoods-provides "Friday's Washington Post set the matter straight, giving Rep. Carolyn Maloney of New York three Pinocchios. During the hearing, Congresswoman Maloney referred to a letter to defund Planned Parenthood over allegations that the group harvests and sells aborted babies' body parts. “All of the signatories are men," she said. "None of whom will get pregnant, or need a cervical screening for cancer, or a mammogram, or a pap smear, or other life-saving services that are provided by Planned Parenthood.”" Do you need more proof? My point stands as fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 Mammograms are unhealthy / dangerous anyway. But still, PP is evil. Well all x rays - mri ect prolly arent the best for you. But catching something early outweighs that tiny risk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 10, 2018 You hate wimmens more than anyone I've ever seen. Why do you give two shits about PP? Because TRUMP!!!! And they see more poosay in one day that wiff will see in his lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 So far in 2018, just through September, PP has spent 3 million dollars on political contributions and lobbying. Just looked. Average cost of a mammogram machine is 300k. Thats over 10 mammogram machines PER YEAR they could have been purchasing all these years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 10, 2018 25 million dollars seems high for a mammogram machine? I may have to call BS. I mean, at the State Fair they have them in the back of a tractor trailer. Thats just Joe Bobs way of copping a feel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 If Obama said that recently? He's just wrong. And again, it's just common sense. When was the last time you had a scan at your local Clinic? let's hear from the director of Planned Parenthood herself testifying the Congress shall we? If you would give me one moment to explain, Planned Parenthood is a womens health center, just like where I go for my breast exams every year. If you need a mammogram, youre referred to a radiological center, and thats how women actually receive their care, and we provide breast exams too, said Richards. Jesus, it's not that hard. https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/planned-parenthood-president-none-our-clinics-have-mammogram-machines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 I have no issue with PP per se. I just think they should exist on their own accord through tax exempt status and personal donations. No need for actual govt funding. And the fact they spend Millions on a super PAC but dont offer mammogram service is eye opening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 Martin O'Malley testifying as to what goes on during a breast exam. brilliant. LOL Yeah, I'll take the word of the director of Planned Parenthood thank you very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 You hate wimmens more than anyone I've ever seen. Why do you give two shits about PP?As I've said from day one, I am antistupid. I'm not pro much of anything. The people who purposely remain ignorant in a world where they can get all the facts they need or want on their phone? That's literally just purposeful ignorance. a lot of you kids should really read up on what percentage of federal funding goes to Planned Parenthood and what they can and cannot do with that funding. all these moron so-called pro-lifers thinking that Planned Parenthood is taking machetes to fully formed infants 14 seconds before birth are just retarded. Seriously, Planned Parenthood has plenty of documentation online. Stop reading focus on the family or some other stupid Jimmy Swaggart bullshit and educate yourselves as to what they do and who and what pays for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 As I've said from day one, I am anti st stupid. I'm not pro much of anything. The people who purposely remain ignorant in a world where they can get all the facts they need or want on their phone? That's literally just purposeful ignorance. a lot of you kids should really read up on what percentage of federal funding goes to Planned Parenthood and what they can and cannot do with that funding. all these moron so-called pro-lifers thinking that Planned Parenthood is taking machetes to fully formed infants 14 seconds before birth are just retarded. Seriously, Planned Parenthood has plenty of documentation online. Stop reading focus on the family or some other stupid Jimmy Swaggart bullshit and educate yourselves as to what they do and who and what pays for it. If its such a small percentage of govt funding why do they (PP) fight so hard to keep it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted October 10, 2018 If Obama said that ###### recently? He's just ###### wrong. And again, it's just common sense. When was the last time you had a scan at your local Clinic? let's hear from the director of Planned Parenthood herself testifying the Congress shall we? If you would give me one moment to explain, Planned Parenthood is a womens health center, just like where I go for my breast exams every year. If you need a mammogram, youre referred to a radiological center, and thats how women actually receive their care, and we provide breast exams too, said Richards. Jesus, it's not that hard. https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/planned-parenthood-president-none-our-clinics-have-mammogram-machines Hey, @ssmunch, are you deaf, dumb AND blind? My point stands. Whenever there is an argument about funding, they ALL start saying PP has mammograms. I literally gave you 3 links (I could have given you 30 more) with DIRECT QUOTES of them saying that. And not just some average Joe's on the street - we're talking Obama and other members of congress and leaders of the left. JFC, Wiff. There was nothing non-factual about what I originally posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 When you say all in big old capital letters? You apparently don't mean the director of Planned Parenthood? LOL You know, I can get you a hundred quotes probably of a bunch of isis best people saying the US military kills babies! Or Trump separates families! Maybe we should actually ignore the partisan morons and listen to The Experts? Bet I can get you some doozy quotes from focus on the family about Planned Parenthood too. "They ALL say it! " Geesus...lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted October 10, 2018 Hey, @ssmunch, are you deaf, dumb AND blind? My point stands. Whenever there is an argument about funding, they ALL start saying PP has mammograms. I literally gave you 3 links (I could have given you 30 more) with DIRECT QUOTES of them saying that. And not just some average Joe's on the street - we're talking Obama and other members of congress and leaders of the left. JFC, Wiff. There was nothing non-factual about what I originally posted. Saying Obama and members of Congress are better than average Joe's is an insult to averag Joe's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 And Ill ask the question nobody can ever answer me. If Obamacare mandates ALL people must have health insurance, why cant ALL women use said insurance at a normal GP or OBGYN? Obamacare made govt funding of PP obsolete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,028 Posted October 10, 2018 If its such a small percentage of govt funding why do they (PP) fight so hard to keep it? It's a small amount of what the govt funds, it's about half of PP's budget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted October 10, 2018 Saying Obama and members of Congress are better than average Joe's is an insult to averag Joe's. My bad. I promise to be better next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 It's a small amount of what the govt funds, it's about half of PP's budget. So THATS how they can afford to give millions BACK to political parties and lobbying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 So THATS how they can afford to give millions BACK to political parties and lobbying. Again, check their budget. It's online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted October 10, 2018 When you say all in big old capital letters? You apparently don't mean the director of Planned Parenthood? LOL You know, I can get you a hundred quotes probably of a bunch of isis best people saying the US military kills babies! Or Trump separates families! Maybe we should actually ignore the partisan morons and listen to The Experts? Bet I can get you some doozy quotes from focus on the family about Planned Parenthood too. "They ALL say it! " Geesus...lol WTF is wrong with you? Did you even read my original post? Nothing I said was non-factual, yet you want to sidestep with some nonsense about the director of PP? It doesn't matter what the director says if EVERYONE else with a bigger platform is saying it. THAT was my point and i proved it with direct quotes. Stay focused, grasshopper. It's like you're a child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 And Ill ask the question nobody can ever answer me. If Obamacare mandates ALL people must have health insurance, why cant ALL women use said insurance at a normal GP or OBGYN? Obamacare made govt funding of PP obsolete. That's actually a pretty valid question. Many women live hundreds of miles away from hospitals that provide necessary services. PP clinics assist with pre and post-natal checkups and other matters important to children And women's health. A lot of poor people don't have access to transportation for basic well-baby checks and progress checks. Far more Insidious though, is the fact that one in six hospitals in this country are controlled by the Catholics. It's their sneaky way of getting their agenda across. There women who have legitimately had their health in Peril where they are hemorrhaging blood because a child spontaneously aborted and needs to be removed from the womb. The Catholics won't allow that particular procedure to happen. And it's not just that kind of a procedure that's limited or restricted entirely. So, while the best insurance in the world might pay for st. Michael's Catholic Hospital care. If the local Bishop is opposed to whatever nonsense mythology he particularly believes in, then that woman is screwed. And in some cases, that woman is dead. And it's all completely legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 10, 2018 Again, check their budget. It's online. For what? Honcho said govt funding was half. Just looked and its 37 percent. Seems close enough for the Geek Club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 10, 2018 For what? Honcho said govt funding was half. Just looked and its 37 percent. Seems close enough for the Geek Club. For example, what government funding they do receive? Is severely curtailed by federal law as to what they can and cannot fund with that money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted October 10, 2018 For example, what government funding they do receive? Is severely curtailed by federal law as to what they can and cannot fund with that money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 11, 2018 Wiff is a smart guy. I contend that if PP got off the govt teet that the following could and would happen. 1. Their personal contributions and donations would go up. 2. They wouldnt have to spend millions on a super PAC. 3. They accept insurance so they get reimbursed through Obomacare (govt subsidised already) now. Both above would raise revenues or lower expenses and they could exist on their own accord which takes the number one thing Righties point too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 11, 2018 For example, what government funding they do receive? Is severely curtailed by federal law as to what they can and cannot fund with that money. Wiff come on. Rob Peter, pay Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,028 Posted October 11, 2018 Wiff is a smart guy. I contend that if PP got off the govt teet that the following could and would happen. 1. Their personal contributions and donations would go up. 2. They wouldnt have to spend millions on a super PAC. 3. They accept insurance so they get reimbursed through Obomacare (govt subsidised already) now. Both above would raise revenues or lower expenses and they could exist on their own accord which takes the number one thing Righties point too. And here we go again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 11, 2018 Huh? Really? https://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/planned-parenthood-and-mammograms/ "Obama said: When Governor Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for not just contraceptive care. They rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings. Obama used a similar line again on Oct. 18, telling a Manchester, N.H., crowd: Governor Romney said hed end funding for Planned Parenthood, despite all the work it does to provide women with mammograms and breast cancer screenings." https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/03/martin-omalley/97-planned-parenthoods-work-mammograms-preventive-/ "The vast majority of Planned Parenthoods work goes toward mammograms and preventive care, said former Maryland Gov. Martin OMalley... I do know that 97 percent of the work that Planned Parenthood does is about mammograms and preventative health" https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/washington-post-repeated-misleading-claim-that-planned-parenthoods-provides "Friday's Washington Post set the matter straight, giving Rep. Carolyn Maloney of New York three Pinocchios. During the hearing, Congresswoman Maloney referred to a letter to defund Planned Parenthood over allegations that the group harvests and sells aborted babies' body parts. All of the signatories are men," she said. "None of whom will get pregnant, or need a cervical screening for cancer, or a mammogram, or a pap smear, or other life-saving services that are provided by Planned Parenthood." Do you need more proof? My point stands as fact. wiff wiffed again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,640 Posted October 11, 2018 That's actually a pretty valid question. Many women live hundreds of miles away from hospitals that provide necessary services. PP clinics assist with pre and post-natal checkups and other matters important to children And women's health. A lot of poor people don't have access to transportation for basic well-baby checks and progress checks. Far more Insidious though, is the fact that one in six hospitals in this country are controlled by the Catholics. It's their sneaky way of getting their agenda across. There women who have legitimately had their health in Peril where they are hemorrhaging blood because a child spontaneously aborted and needs to be removed from the womb. The Catholics won't allow that particular procedure to happen. And it's not just that kind of a procedure that's limited or restricted entirely. So, while the best insurance in the world might pay for st. Michael's Catholic Hospital care. If the local Bishop is opposed to whatever nonsense mythology he particularly believes in, then that woman is screwed. And in some cases, that woman is dead. And it's all completely legal. Bulllllllshittttttt, pulled right out of your ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 11, 2018 And Ill ask the question nobody can ever answer me. If Obamacare mandates ALL people must have health insurance, why cant ALL women use said insurance at a normal GP or OBGYN? Obamacare made govt funding of PP obsolete. no sh!t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites