College football playoff rankings

[Mungwater 588]

I for one don't like the initial final four, three SEC teams thorn Florida state? They should expand to 8, let all conference champs in then fill in with at large bids.

 

How the NCAA can have such a great season then the worst post season is crazy

[Sho Nuff 719]

About who deserves it at this point.

But too much will change.

Auburn still has @OleMiss this weekend, A&M, @Georgia, and @Bama. I don't see them getting through that without a loss or 2.

Ole Miss has Auburn and MSU still to go...and could even trip up @Arkansas.

MSU has @OleMiss left plus Arkansas this weekend and @Bama.

 

Id say 2 of those teams for sure will trip up...if not all 3 letting Bama back into it. Georgia is one that could screw it all up if they keep going and win the SEC title game too.

[posty 2,296]

I thought that college football was just the SEC and then everyone else...

[jerryskids 5,199]

About who deserves it at this point.

But too much will change.

Auburn still has @OleMiss this weekend, A&M, @Georgia, and @Bama. I don't see them getting through that without a loss or 2.

Ole Miss has Auburn and MSU still to go...and could even trip up @Arkansas.

MSU has @OleMiss left plus Arkansas this weekend and @Bama.

 

Id say 2 of those teams for sure will trip up...if not all 3 letting Bama back into it. Georgia is one that could screw it all up if they keep going and win the SEC title game too.

I think the committee intentionally picked those 3 knowing full well that they would knock each other out. You can replace them later with ND or whoever else is running the table.

[phillybear 364]

Make TCU the #1 seed, and then go from there.

[posty 2,296]

Make TCU the #1 seed, and then go from there.

Even if they lose to West Virginia this weekend?

[KSB2424 3,083]

I for one don't like the initial final four, three SEC teams thorn Florida state? They should expand to 8, let all conference champs in then fill in with at large bids.

 

 

 

I think this is roughly the next and final step in the change. 8 team playoff with the 5 Big Conference Champions and 3 "wild cards". The 3 wild cards would take care of the issue of small schools who are deserving and/or conferences with multiple teams that are deserving who didn't win their conference chapionship.

 

Any more and you'd be watering down the regular season. 8 is a good balance imo.

 

And get rid of this stupid commitee. Just use the old BSC ranking system or some version of it.

[phillybear 364]

Even if they lose to West Virginia this weekend?

 

That's why the Big 12 is the top conference in college football. With all due respect to the Pac 12

 

Somebody should tell the fuckos in that tainted committee that there is more than one conference in college football

[JT 137]

It's the same bvllsh!t wrapped in a different package.

 

Conference champs. No wild cards. Worried about your conf championship game hurting your chances? Give up the $$$ and drop it.

 

But seriously, knowing that the AD's of power conference schools and Condoleeza Rice are figuring this out makes me feel A-OK. How could it not work?

[BunnysBastatrds 1,914]

Why all the hate for the SEC? They put quality football teams on the field every year. You can't deny the fact that the SEC is the far superior division right now. Ask yourself this: if your team, outside of the SEC, was to be put in the SEC, how would they end their season? Would they ever have a chance at a shot for the national championship?

[KSB2424 3,083]

Why all the hate for the SEC? They put quality football teams on the field every year. You can't deny the fact that the SEC is the far superior division right now. Ask yourself this: if your team, outside of the SEC, was to be put in the SEC, how would they end their season? Would they ever have a chance at a shot for the national championship?

 

We heard the same crap before A&M and Missou were in the SEC. They get invited to the SEC and guess what? They did pretty dag on well. No?

 

The SEC is a really good football conference. The best in the land.

 

But it aint head and shoulders better like people think. The seperation isn't as much as people say it is.

[crackattack 513]

Mizzu lost to IU....I FREAKING U! IU is one of if not the worst football team in the history of the ncaa. A&m blows, vandy, Tennessee, kentucky, SC, Florida, Arkansas are all average to bad. Georgia is overrated. LSU is above average, but overrated.....sorry bunny. Ole miss and Miss st will end the season with two losses each. The SEC is top heavy with two teams really....Alabama and Auburn, and one, if not both, will end up with two losses. SEC is down this year, yet have three teams in the first rankings. It'll change.

[phillybear 364]

Why all the hate for the SEC? They put quality football teams on the field every year. You can't deny the fact that the SEC is the far superior division right now. Ask yourself this: if your team, outside of the SEC, was to be put in the SEC, how would they end their season? Would they ever have a chance at a shot for the national championship?

 

I could stop by my old neighborhood on the way home from work tonight. Round up the 'ole gang that played pick up football back in the day. We'll put on the pads and go out and beat 'Ole Miss this Saturday. I guarantee I'll sack Bo Wallace twice. My only question, after thumping the Rebs, do we get a shot at the national title?

 

NCAA Championship Geek of the Year.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Make TCU the #1 seed, and then go from there.

 

No thanks...they aren't the best team.

Maybe get back on your old Hawaii kick...that was you wasn't it?

 

Just another team with a high powered offense and little to no real defense.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

That's why the Big 12 is the top conference in college football. With all due respect to the Pac 12

 

Somebody should tell the fuckos in that tainted committee that there is more than one conference in college football

 

Big 12 is ok...Pac is ok...SEC is still the top conference no matter how much you complain about it.

 

That said..there is no dominant team this year.

A bunch of good and not great teams. All have their flaws.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

I could stop by my old neighborhood on the way home from work tonight. Round up the 'ole gang that played pick up football back in the day. We'll put on the pads and go out and beat 'Ole Miss this Saturday. I guarantee I'll sack Bo Wallace twice. My only question, after thumping the Rebs, do we get a shot at the national title?

 

NCAA Championship Geek of the Year.

 

You talk a lot of crap...BTW...even bad Bo would make you look stupid.

And if you tried playing offense Nkemdiche would literally kill you.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,914]

Mizzu lost to IU....I FREAKING U! IU is one of if not the worst football team in the history of the ncaa. A&m blows, vandy, Tennessee, kentucky, SC, Florida, Arkansas are all average to bad. Georgia is overrated. LSU is above average, but overrated.....sorry bunny. Ole miss and Miss st will end the season with two losses each. The SEC is top heavy with two teams really....Alabama and Auburn, and one, if not both, will end up with two losses. SEC is down this year, yet have three teams in the first rankings. It'll change.

 

 

And who are their losses going to be from? The SEC eats it's own.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

 

And who are their losses going to be from? The SEC eats it's own.

 

All conferences do.

They will all likely drop some because there is parity among most of college football this year.

Not one great team out there this year.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,914]

 

Big 12 is ok...Pac is ok...SEC is still the top conference no matter how much you complain about it.

 

That said..there is no dominant team this year.

A bunch of good and not great teams. All have their flaws.

 

 

This. And part of the problem is all the great SEC players leaving early for the NFL draft.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,914]

 

All conferences do.

They will all likely drop some because there is parity among most of college football this year.

Not one great team out there this year.

 

 

All conferences don't have three teams ranked in the top ten and six teams ranked in the top twenty year after year. There are thre SEC teams in the current playoff rankings, which is horesh!t in my opinion, but it is what it is.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

 

All conferences don't have three teams ranked in the top ten and six teams ranked in the top twenty year after year. There are thre SEC teams in the current playoff rankings, which is horesh!t in my opinion, but it is what it is.

 

All conferences beat each other up.

The SEC is the best conference...but rankings are based on the bias of them being the best.

Which is why A&M shot up early in the year after beating a highly overrated South Carolina team.

Its why Ole Miss and MSU jumped up after beating teams like A&M and a Bama team that is full of flaws (but now building towards probably being one of the best, if not the best team in the country).

 

Its again a top heavy conference of about 3-4 good to really good teams...the rest are decent...but not great.

[KSB2424 3,083]

Look the SEC is the best conference. But just barely, its not heads a shoulders. They are propped up every year by analysts.

 

Lets look at last years bowl games agains other quality opponents. Two best SEC teams got beat: FSU beat Auburn. Oklahoma beat Alabama.

 

Other two bowl wins were by A&M and Missou who just started recently in the SEC and are competing with all the others. Which proves other teams in other conference can do the same.

 

The SEC has lots of tradition, good teams and coaches. But other top half teams in other conference could hold thier own in the SEC as well. When SEC folks say otherwise that's where it gets annoying.

[JT 137]

 

 

All conferences don't have three teams ranked in the top ten and six teams ranked in the top twenty year after year. There are thre SEC teams in the current playoff rankings, which is horesh!t in my opinion, but it is what it is.

 

If it was in a major media outlet's best interest for them to do so they could and would.

 

Every conference cannibalizes it's own. The SEC is the only place where that's excused because of where they were ranked before a down was played.

 

It's also the only conference where a bad bowl beat down is written off because "our guys weren't up for a game that isn't a title game", as opposed to maybe the best teams from around the country can compete with your best just fine. It's the only chance they get to play an SEC team anywhere but it's own backyard.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,914]

 

If it was in a major media outlet's best interest for them to do so they could and would.

 

Every conference cannibalizes it's own. The SEC is the only place where that's excused because of where they were ranked before a down was played.

 

It's also the only conference where a bad bowl beat down is written off because "our guys weren't up for a game that isn't a title game", as opposed to maybe the best teams from around the country can compete with your best just fine. It's the only chance they get to play an SEC team anywhere but it's own backyard.

 

 

I agree that ranking teams before the season starts is bullsh!t. Wait until conference play and then start the rankings. That being said, the SEC teams that rise/fall once the conference play begins are winning and losing to SEC teams. Mississippi State wasn't even ranked at the begining of the year and now their #1. Why?

[crackattack 513]

 

 

I agree that ranking teams before the season starts is bullsh!t. Wait until conference play and then start the rankings. That being said, the SEC teams that rise/fall once the conference play begins are winning and losing to SEC teams. Mississippi State wasn't even ranked at the begining of the year and now their #1. Why?

They've beaten 2 good teams. 2. Auburn and lsu. Yet they go from unranked to #1 in 3 weeks???? They didn't even break the top 25 until week 5 but are #1 by week 8???

 

They leapfrog unbeaten ND, Baylor, and Florida St. They go from unranked to #1 in 3 weeks passing 3 other higher ranked unbeaten teams. Yep...no bias in ranking. Come on.

[ZeroTolerance 582]

The SEC is the best conference, but it gets insanely overblown thanks to the polls. South Carolina gets a top 10 ranking to start the season...so when a team like A&M beats them, A&M gets a huge boost because "oh man, they beat a top team". Then we find out SC kind of sucks. Meanwhile, a now overrated A&M gets beat down by someone else, and THAT team gets the rub of "oh man, they beat a top team". When you get 5 or 6 teams receiving that treatment to start every season, all of the middle tier schools in the conference are going to be overvalued, which then continues the cycle.

[jerryskids 5,199]

 

 

And who are their losses going to be from? The SEC eats it's own.

The PAC 12 has 4 one loss teams, 3 in the South. Those 3 have yet to play. ASU plays Utah this week (both 1 loss), then ND. If they win both they may squeak into the top 10. East coast SEC bias.

[JT 137]

I agree that ranking teams before the season starts is bullsh!t. Wait until conference play and then start the rankings. That being said, the SEC teams that rise/fall once the conference play begins are winning and losing to SEC teams. Mississippi State wasn't even ranked at the begining of the year and now their #1. Why?

 

Read Zero Tolerances post above. That's why. It's a shell game and a wonderful example of pretzel logic.

 

Team A starts WAY too high because of...well, nothing but their conference and coach's name. They lose to a fellow conference team who leap frogs them, but Team A drops less after a loss because they lost to the SEC. Then we find that Team A is nothing, but nobody goes back to adjust the polls from a month ago. Beat a SEC team and you get extra points. Lose to a SEC team and get penalized less. And since all SEC teams do is play other SEC teams, the beat goes on.

 

It's really a terrific scam. Just make a prophecy, control the means to make that prophecy come true, and voila!

[BunnysBastatrds 1,914]

Read Zero Tolerances post above. That's why. It's a shell game and a wonderful example of pretzel logic.

 

Team A starts WAY too high because of...well, nothing but their conference and coach's name. They lose to a fellow conference team who leap frogs them, but Team A drops less after a loss because they lost to the SEC. Then we find that Team A is nothing, but nobody goes back to adjust the polls from a month ago. Beat a SEC team and you get extra points. Lose to a SEC team and get penalized less. And since all SEC teams do is play other SEC teams, the beat goes on.

 

It's really a terrific scam. Just make a prophecy, control the means to make that prophecy come true, and voila!

So the small market south sets the tone and direction of the NCAA? Not because of the strength of the conference? Gotcha.

[The Moz 69]

2 teams from the SEC west will make the final 4 unless UGA beats one in the SEC title game. The other 2 teams will be FSU and IF they can win out Notre Dame - ND is a much better team this year than they were 2 years ago.

 

2 of Bama-Miss ST-Ole Miss-Auburn

 

FSU

 

ND,Oregon,Baylor,K State, or MSU

[The Moz 69]

So the small market south sets the tone and direction of the NCAA? Not because of the strength of the conference? Gotcha.

The SEC wins and they have been the best by a mile for a decade so ----- "haters gonna hate" .

 

The SEC has played a NON SEC team in the title game all but one time and for the first time in like the last 7 a non SEC beat a SEC team in the title game last year. Yet the SEC sucks right and are just overated... When you have dominated for over a decade if not more - YES you are going to be more the benefit of the doubt than others to start the season. If you want to label a conference overated then look at the big 10 not the SEC who "almost" EVERY year backs it up.................

[BunnysBastatrds 1,914]

The SEC wins and they have been the best by a mile for a decade so ----- "haters gonna hate" .

 

The SEC has played a NON SEC team in the title game all but one time and for the first time in like the last 7 a non SEC beat a SEC team in the title game last year. Yet the SEC sucks right and are just overated... When you have dominated for over a decade if not more - YES you are going to be more the benefit of the doubt than others to start the season. If you want to label a conference overated then look at the big 10 not the SEC who "almost" EVERY year backs it up.................

Yup. But that's just the SEC having an unfair advantage. Better player pool of recruits, recruiting, coaches, facilities, weather, wemens, fans, alumni, food, stadiums, and much more. Never mind defense, speed of game, athletes, and the percentage of players going to the NFL. It's a racket. Unfair I tell you.

[JT 137]

So the small market south sets the tone and direction of the NCAA? Not because of the strength of the conference? Gotcha.

 

No, ESPN sets the tone of the NCAA. And they've thrown themselves into bed with the SEC lock, stock and barrel.

 

Where a team plays has nothing to do with where it's seen and how it's promoted. The kid watching LSU-Florida in Seattle only knows that there's some hot looking girls in the Florida stands, and that he's being told repeatedly that this is thew only conference in college football that really matters..

 

The SEC is a very good conference almost every year; just like a few others. Like a few other conferences, they have a chance to be the best annually. Like those conferences, most years they'll have a really good 1-3 teams , a really bad 1-3 teams, and the rest are in constant flux.

 

That is the nature of college sports, where players move in and out on a regular basis. But when it comes to the SEC, natural laws are suspended. Your in-conference wins count more than those of any other conference, and your out-of-conference losses hurt less. You start every year with overrated teams bloating the Top 25, and no statistical correction is made once everyone sees that those teams didn't belong there in the first place.

 

Would a system like that, that enables your teams to retain national prominence, year after year, whether they deserve it or not, draw better recruits? Sure. Will that exposure create more attention among NFL scouts? Sure. And the self-fulfilling prophecy continues.

 

I'm not surprised that you can't see anything between "SEC is the greatest ever" and "SEC sucks". But it is an outlier in all of sports. Hell, certain basketball conferences have been anointed over the years, only to have ESPN shift their interest when they have a down season or two. But SEC football remains Teflon because football brings more money and attention than anything else, and they've committed to their idea of SEC uber alles. Television told people that LOST was something other than self-indulgent crap too. It's very powerful.

 

Real playoff. Winner only of each conference. Seed top to bottom and play it out. If the SEC is truly dominant, they will be in that setup too. Until their representative loses and the ol' "well, hard to get our boys up for this kinda team" excuses , followed by the "well, we beat each other up all year long it really isn't fair for us to have to play these extra games" start.

[crackattack 513]

The SEC has 2-4 of the same teams that dominate. The conference is extremely top heavy. Are they the best in football.....yes, because of Bama, Auburn, LSU and Florida during the Tebow years. The two Mississippi schools will not finish in the top 4 in my opinion. If I had to guess, my final 4 will be: Alabama, Oregon, Mich St. and Florida St. Those 4 are the ones I think will finish one loss, or undefeated (Fla. St.) and win their conference. ND will lose at least one more game...maybe 2. I don't see any Big 12 teams with only 1 loss at the end of the year.

 

I wouldn't care if the SEC gets 2 teams in if a lot of other teams have 2 loses, but 3 would be bad for college football and validate peoples opinion that the SEC is treated "different". Who knows. There's a lot of football left.

[listen2me 23 1,541]

Yea, Cowherd had a guy in Vegas who said right now the top team in Vegas in BAMA. Followed by 2. Auburn 3. Ol Miss 4. Miss St. 5. TCU.

 

So to all you babies acting like there is some SEC bias, go fock yourselves.

 

Vegas is the least bias source you will ever find. In Vegas right now that is the lineup of the best teams right now. The guy said Bama would be favored over anyone on a Neutral Field.

 

I have no allegiance. I am from the NE. I don't care about any team. But it is obvious the SEC is the best conference. This year not as much as most perhaps. But they still have a whole handful of very good teams.

 

The SEC bias bandwagon is a trendy thing to ride. To bad you are all idiots.

[phillybear 364]

Yea, Cowherd had a guy in Vegas who said right now the top team in Vegas in BAMA. Followed by 2. Auburn 3. Ol Miss 4. Miss St. 5. TCU.

 

So to all you babies acting like there is some SEC bias, go fock yourselves.

 

Vegas is the least bias source you will ever find. In Vegas right now that is the lineup of the best teams right now. The guy said Bama would be favored over anyone on a Neutral Field.

 

I have no allegiance. I am from the NE. I don't care about any team. But it is obvious the SEC is the best conference. This year not as much as most perhaps. But they still have a whole handful of very good teams.

 

The SEC bias bandwagon is a trendy thing to ride. To bad you are all idiots.

 

Vegas isn't handicapping who the best team is. They are handicapping the idiots that are placing bets and what their favorite teams to bet on are. Clearly, Alabama is public darling. So they will install an SEC team as a favorable, lay a trap when they actually prefer the dog, and make a killing. They are using the rabid pro-SEC bias to their advantage.

[Mungwater 588]

Yea, Cowherd had a guy in Vegas who said right now the top team in Vegas in BAMA. Followed by 2. Auburn 3. Ol Miss 4. Miss St. 5. TCU.

 

So to all you babies acting like there is some SEC bias, go fock yourselves.

 

Vegas is the least bias source you will ever find. In Vegas right now that is the lineup of the best teams right now. The guy said Bama would be favored over anyone on a Neutral Field.

 

I have no allegiance. I am from the NE. I don't care about any team. But it is obvious the SEC is the best conference. This year not as much as most perhaps. But they still have a whole handful of very good teams.

 

The SEC bias bandwagon is a trendy thing to ride. To bad you are all idiots.

You know how Vegas works, right?

[listen2me 23 1,541]

SEC has covered the last 8 straight championship games vs other conf teams.

 

4 of them were underdogs.

 

3 of those dogs won outright with Auburn losing by 3 to 10.5 favorite Fla St.......Auburn beating Oregon as a 1 pt dog. Fla as a TD dog blowing out OHS. LSU beating Okl by 7 as a 6 pt dog.

 

Most of the other years blowing teams out of the water on way to covering.

 

So little Joe Vegas comes on air and answers a question because he wants people to bet on a conf that has covered the last 8 straight championship games they played vs. other conf. representatives?

 

Makes sense if you are an idiot.

 

Do past games and outcomes of those games matter in these discussions at all? How are the results spun? The numbers of covers? Do these mean anything? Or is it, Oh you are dumb, blah, I have nothing to say, blah. ??

[listen2me 23 1,541]

So by these stats above it is logical to assume the SEC is actually UNDERRATED. They covered each one of last 8. But won 3 of them as underdogs. Barely losing the only game they lost. To a team that was a whopping 10.5 pt favorite.

 

Lets not let data and logic take over though. Lets stick to the "you are an espn groupie" "conspiracy!!!"

[phillybear 364]

SEC has covered the last 8 straight championship games vs other conf teams.

 

4 of them were underdogs.

 

3 of those dogs won outright with Auburn losing by 3 to 10.5 favorite Fla St.......Auburn beating Oregon as a 1 pt dog. Fla as a TD dog blowing out OHS. LSU beating Okl by 7 as a 6 pt dog.

 

Most of the other years blowing teams out of the water on way to covering.

 

So little Joe Vegas comes on air and answers a question because he wants people to bet on a conf that has covered the last 8 straight championship games they played vs. other conf. representatives?

 

Makes sense if you are an idiot.

 

Do past games and outcomes of those games matter in these discussions at all? How are the results spun? The numbers of covers? Do these mean anything? Or is it, Oh you are dumb, blah, I have nothing to say, blah. ??

 

Most of the time, the wrong team made it to the "championship" game to face the SEC team. But, I've been proponent of teams like TCU, Boise St, and Utah over the years, who were rarely given a big time bowl games vs BCS conference teams. When they got their shots, TCU, Boise St and Utah usually won. But, none got a title shot, even when undefeated, which is bullsh!t.. Further more, in general, it was a rare thing when the two consensus best teams faced each other, so I really can't put much stock in the final bowl game of the season.

 

Last year, I made some nice coin in the bowl games. One big trend was to bet against all SEC teamsleading into the final bowl games. This was due to SEC lines being overinflated. The betting public has bought into the SEC hype and will blindly bet on the SEC teams in non conference games because they are the "best" teams. But, whether it's to balance out the action or to simply lay traps, the lines were lopsided in favoring the SEC teams and the value was to bet against the SEC teams. And this proved profitable. For what it's worth.