Trump threatens to close 'Southern Border entirely

[RLLD 3,455]

60+% on govt assistance

 

That makes sense to me, at least initially. Further, these folks are in those kinds of jobs that no one can sustain a family on, and nor should they try to.

 

But they have the right mentality. They want to work, work hard, educate their kids, climb the ladder.....that is something we cannot seem to get people HERE to actually do, and it is THE KEY ingredient to achieving success. Desire and effort will overcome any societal disadvantages eventually.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I think we need to separate the immigration from the legality.

 

I think most of these people coming in are hard arse workers, willing to do work none of us would want to do, and for wages we would never accept. i would rather streamline the entry process, ensure they are part of the taxable base, and have them deliver value.

 

These folks are really not much of a threat to most of us, yes there are criminals, but there are criminals everywhere anyway. And I suspect that the criminal elements down south wont be much impeded by a wall or paperwork.

 

The group most impacted by these folks are the African American community. I do worry that this southern immigration is going to have some really serious negative consequences for them, and how that might created really bad problems in the coming years.

 

I don't agree that we want to streamline the entry process necessarily. I think that we need to have some limits on the number of people that we can take in during periods of time. We don't want to have a swinging gate into the country.

 

I do think that we can streamline the process of vetting these people so that we can let the deserving ones in and send the others back without them just hanging around. Right now, it takes us too long to process people, so they just overload the system.

 

That is why I think that better immigration is not solely based on wall. We need to have better fences/barriers/walls, but we also need to adjust our processes and address issues at legal ports of entry (better drug detection, better processing of asylum requests, etc.).

[drobeski 3,061]

Op-ed from senior trump official

Nails it

 

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/14/smoke-out-resistance/

 

 

As one of the senior officials working without a paycheck, a few words of advice for the presidents next move at shuttered government agencies: lock the doors, sell the furniture, and cut them down.

 

Federal employees are starting to feel the strain of the shutdown. I am one of them. But for the sake of our nation, I hope it lasts a very long time, till the government is changed and can never return to its previous form.

 

The lapse in appropriations is more than a battle over a wall. It is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.

 

 

On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they dont feel like doing what they are told, they dont.

 

Why would they? We cant fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position some do this in the same position for more than a decade. (RELATED: diGenova and Toensing: Judge Napolitano Is Wrong On The Law and The Facts)

 

They do nothing that warrants punishment and nothing of external value. That is their workday: errands for the sake of errands administering, refining, following and collaborating on process. Process is your friend is what delusional civil servants tell themselves. Even senior officials must gain approval from every rank across their department, other agencies and work units for basic administrative chores.

 

Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process. Then there are the 5 percent with moxie (career managers). At any given time they can change, clarify or add to the process even to distort or block policy counsel for the president.

 

 

Saboteurs peddling opinion as research, tasking their staff on pet projects or pitching wasteful grants to their friends. Most of my career colleagues actively work against the presidents agenda. This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the presidents agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown.

 

Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks. One might think this is how government should function, but bureaucracies operate from the bottom up a collective of self-generated ideas. Ideas become initiatives, formalize into offices, they seek funds from Congress and become bureaus or sub-agencies, and maybe one day grow to be their own independent agency, like ours. The nature of a big administrative bureaucracy is to grow to serve itself. I watch it and fight it daily. (RELATED: If Ginsburg Retires, Democrats Have A Trump Card Packing The Supreme Court)

 

When the agency is full, employees held liable for poor performance respond with threats, lawsuits, complaints and process in at least a dozen offices, taking years of mounting paperwork with no fear of accountability, extending their careers, while no real work is done. Do we succumb to such extortion? Yes. We pay them settlements, we waive bad reviews, and we promote them.

 

Many government agencies have adopted the position that more complaints are good because it shows inclusion in, you guessed it, the process. When complaints come, it is cheaper to pay them off than to hold public servants accountable. The result: People accused of serious offenses are not charged, and self-proclaimed victims are paid by you, the American taxpayer.

 

The message to federal supervisors is clear. Maintain the status quo, or face allegations. Many federal employees truly believe that doing tasks more efficiently and cutting out waste, by closing troubled programs instead of expanding them, is morally wrong, as one cried to me.

 

I get it. These are their pets. It is tough to put them down and let go, and many resist. This phenomenon was best summed up by a colleague who said, The goal in government is to do nothing. If you try to get things done, thats when you will run into trouble.

 

But President Trump can end this abuse. Senior officials can reprioritize during an extended shutdown, focus on valuable results and weed out the saboteurs. We do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them. Sure, we empathize with families making tough financial decisions, like mine, and just like private citizens who have to find other work and bring competitive value every day, while paying more than a third of their salary in federal taxes.

 

President Trump has created more jobs in the private sector than the furloughed federal workforce. Now that we are shut down, not only are we identifying and eliminating much of the sabotage and waste, but we are finally working on the presidents agenda.

 

President Trump does not need Congress to address the border emergency, and yes, it is an emergency. Billions upon billions of hard-earned tax dollars are still being dumped into foreign aid programs every year that do nothing for Americas interest or national security. The president does not need congressional funding to deconstruct abusive agencies who work against his agenda. This is a chance to effect real change, and his leverage grows stronger every day the shutdown lasts.

 

The president should add to his demands, including a vote on all of his political nominees in the Senate. Send the career appointees back. Many are in the 5 percent of saboteurs and resistance leaders. (RELATED: New Facts Indicate Mueller Destroyed Evidence, Obstructed Justice)

 

A word of caution: To be a victory, this shutdown must be different than those of the past and should achieve lasting disruption with two major changes, or it will hurt the president.

 

The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid.

 

Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream.

 

The presidents instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever.

 

The author is a senior official in the Trump administration.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

Op-ed from senior trump official

Nails it

 

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/14/smoke-out-resistance/

 

 

As one of the senior officials working without a paycheck, a few words of advice for the presidents next move at shuttered government agencies: lock the doors, sell the furniture, and cut them down.

 

Federal employees are starting to feel the strain of the shutdown. I am one of them. But for the sake of our nation, I hope it lasts a very long time, till the government is changed and can never return to its previous form.

 

The lapse in appropriations is more than a battle over a wall. It is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.

 

 

On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they dont feel like doing what they are told, they dont.

 

Why would they? We cant fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position some do this in the same position for more than a decade. (RELATED: diGenova and Toensing: Judge Napolitano Is Wrong On The Law and The Facts)

 

They do nothing that warrants punishment and nothing of external value. That is their workday: errands for the sake of errands administering, refining, following and collaborating on process. Process is your friend is what delusional civil servants tell themselves. Even senior officials must gain approval from every rank across their department, other agencies and work units for basic administrative chores.

 

Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process. Then there are the 5 percent with moxie (career managers). At any given time they can change, clarify or add to the process even to distort or block policy counsel for the president.

 

 

Saboteurs peddling opinion as research, tasking their staff on pet projects or pitching wasteful grants to their friends. Most of my career colleagues actively work against the presidents agenda. This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the presidents agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown.

 

Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks. One might think this is how government should function, but bureaucracies operate from the bottom up a collective of self-generated ideas. Ideas become initiatives, formalize into offices, they seek funds from Congress and become bureaus or sub-agencies, and maybe one day grow to be their own independent agency, like ours. The nature of a big administrative bureaucracy is to grow to serve itself. I watch it and fight it daily. (RELATED: If Ginsburg Retires, Democrats Have A Trump Card Packing The Supreme Court)

 

When the agency is full, employees held liable for poor performance respond with threats, lawsuits, complaints and process in at least a dozen offices, taking years of mounting paperwork with no fear of accountability, extending their careers, while no real work is done. Do we succumb to such extortion? Yes. We pay them settlements, we waive bad reviews, and we promote them.

 

Many government agencies have adopted the position that more complaints are good because it shows inclusion in, you guessed it, the process. When complaints come, it is cheaper to pay them off than to hold public servants accountable. The result: People accused of serious offenses are not charged, and self-proclaimed victims are paid by you, the American taxpayer.

 

The message to federal supervisors is clear. Maintain the status quo, or face allegations. Many federal employees truly believe that doing tasks more efficiently and cutting out waste, by closing troubled programs instead of expanding them, is morally wrong, as one cried to me.

 

I get it. These are their pets. It is tough to put them down and let go, and many resist. This phenomenon was best summed up by a colleague who said, The goal in government is to do nothing. If you try to get things done, thats when you will run into trouble.

 

But President Trump can end this abuse. Senior officials can reprioritize during an extended shutdown, focus on valuable results and weed out the saboteurs. We do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them. Sure, we empathize with families making tough financial decisions, like mine, and just like private citizens who have to find other work and bring competitive value every day, while paying more than a third of their salary in federal taxes.

 

President Trump has created more jobs in the private sector than the furloughed federal workforce. Now that we are shut down, not only are we identifying and eliminating much of the sabotage and waste, but we are finally working on the presidents agenda.

 

President Trump does not need Congress to address the border emergency, and yes, it is an emergency. Billions upon billions of hard-earned tax dollars are still being dumped into foreign aid programs every year that do nothing for Americas interest or national security. The president does not need congressional funding to deconstruct abusive agencies who work against his agenda. This is a chance to effect real change, and his leverage grows stronger every day the shutdown lasts.

 

The president should add to his demands, including a vote on all of his political nominees in the Senate. Send the career appointees back. Many are in the 5 percent of saboteurs and resistance leaders. (RELATED: New Facts Indicate Mueller Destroyed Evidence, Obstructed Justice)

 

A word of caution: To be a victory, this shutdown must be different than those of the past and should achieve lasting disruption with two major changes, or it will hurt the president.

 

The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid.

 

Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream.

 

The presidents instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever.

 

The author is a senior official in the Trump administration.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

A word of caution: To be a victory, this shutdown must be different than those of the past and should achieve lasting disruption with two major changes, or it will hurt the president.

 

The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid.

 

Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream.

 

The presidents instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever.

.

 

I agree that we need smaller government. We are a wasteful nation and our government is bloated.

 

Here is where the problem is - Trump has not once said that he is shutting things down to trim the waste in government. He has only said that he won't sign anything that doesn't cover his wall. Hopefully, this senior Trump official (and I have my doubts with anyone that doesn't capitalize "President") can get Trump to change his tune and have it reflect the 2 items described above. I am not holding my breath, though.

[tanatastic 2,061]

When you have demands and conditions that need to be met, it’s a hostage situation, not a negotiation. He’s down to about 10 people who will vote for him again.

[drobeski 3,061]

When you have demands and conditions that need to be met, its a hostage situation, not a negotiation. Hes down to about 10 people who will vote for him again.

clueless about everything

[Hardcore troubadour 12,621]

When you have demands and conditions that need to be met, its a hostage situation, not a negotiation. Hes down to about 10 people who will vote for him again.

11

[KSB2424 3,082]

When you have demands and conditions that need to be met, it’s a hostage situation, not a negotiation. He’s down to about 10 people who will vote for him again.

 

Which side are you talking about?

[KSB2424 3,082]

Between the B.S. stuff the ranking Democrats pulled during the Kavenaugh hearings and now not even willing to put 5B in a Trillion Dollar Budget for Border Security, I've lost any respect I ever had for them.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

When you have demands and conditions that need to be met, it’s a hostage situation, not a negotiation.

 

So when you start a job and demand to be paid money for hours worked instead of say 'store credit' you're creating a hostage situation?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/13/walls-across-america-george-soros/

 

Walls Across America.............visits Open Border supporter George Soros' wall. Quite impressive George.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

https://imgur.com/gallery/msK3Tnf

 

Walls work

[Hardcore troubadour 12,621]

I feel "Walls" by Tom Petty is underrated.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I feel "Walls" by Tom Petty is underrated.

 

Ironic since Mexican fentanyl is most likely what killed him. If only we had a wall to stop the flow of it.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/16/illegal-alien-caught-meth-cocaine/

 

$850,000 worth of meth/cocaine found with 8 time deportee.

 

Build that wall

[KSB2424 3,082]

All this can end if the Democrats agree to spend 5.7 Billion on walls in certain areas, more border agents, and other items to help curb ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Mind you 5.7 Billion is but one half of one percent of the total budget.

 

How can any sane person not find this ridiculous? If any other President besides Trump had this line item provision, it'd pass without anyone caring.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

All this can end if the Democrats agree to spend 5.7 Billion on walls in certain areas, more border agents, and other items to help curb ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Mind you 5.7 Billion is but one half of one percent of the total budget.

 

How can any sane person not find this ridiculous? If any other President besides Trump had this line item provision, it'd pass without anyone caring.

The question is whether Trump would take that. He has said he wants $5.7b for a Wall only

 

This type of compromise would allow both sides to save some face.

[MDC 5,890]

All this can end if the Democrats agree to spend 5.7 Billion on walls in certain areas, more border agents, and other items to help curb ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Mind you 5.7 Billion is but one half of one percent of the total budget.

 

How can any sane person not find this ridiculous? If any other President besides Trump had this line item provision, it'd pass without anyone caring.

No other president wound be stupid enough to claim that Mexico would pay for the wall and then repeatedly take full credit for the shutdown if Congress didnt approve it. Dude put his head in the guilotine and handed House Dems the rope. You think theyre supposed to let him off the hook to be nice or something?

[iam90sbaby 2,122]

You think theyre supposed to let him off the hook to be nice or something?

No, because that would benefit the American people and we know the DNC has been working against us for years now.

[KSB2424 3,082]

No other president wound be stupid enough to claim that Mexico would pay for the wall and then repeatedly take full credit for the shutdown if Congress didnt approve it. Dude put his head in the guilotine and handed House Dems the rope. You think theyre supposed to let him off the hook to be nice or something?

 

This is the first honest answer yet, and what the Dem's are thinking.

 

Screw the actual line item in the budget.

Screw curbing illegal immigration.

Screw any kind of compromise.

We want Trumps Head!@#! Period.

 

Political.......only political.

[MDC 5,890]

 

This is the first honest answer yet, and what the Dem's are thinking.

 

Screw the actual line item in the budget.

Screw curbing illegal immigration.

Screw any kind of compromise.

We want Trumps Head!@#! Period.

 

Political.......only political.

Its political on both sides.

 

Trumps border wall proposal was a campaign stunt. Mexico wont give us a dime and it will cost many billions more than $5.7b to build it. He has focused entirely on this wall to the exclusion of anything else that would reduce immigration. He compulsively lies about apprehending terrorists at the border.

 

The POTUS presented an unserious and totally political proposal and its backfired on him bigly. House Dems are supposed to hand him $5.7b now to help him save face?

 

Just take the L and move on Donald.

[edjr 5,556]

This would be a good time for them to announce congressional raises

[edjr 5,556]

Its political on both sides.

 

Trumps border wall proposal was a campaign stunt. Mexico wont give us a dime and it will cost many billions more than $5.7b to build it. He has focused entirely on this wall to the exclusion of anything else that would reduce immigration. He compulsively lies about apprehending terrorists at the border.

 

The POTUS presented an unserious and totally political proposal and its backfired on him bigly. House Dems are supposed to hand him $5.7b now to help him save face?

 

Just take the L and move on Donald.

 

 

The same guy that had his lawyer send his birth certificate to Bill Maher to prove he wasn't born from orangutans?

[Baker Boy 1,484]

As new US-bound caravan grows to more than 2,000, Mexicans lash out

 

As a new caravan that began in Honduras and quickly swelled to an estimated 2,000 people made its way toward Mexico on Tuesday, Mexicans who live along the border towns that will likely be most affected took to the Internet to lash out against another wave of migrants.

 

“Work? Yes, there might be work for people who actually want to work, not for the lazy bums looking for entitlements,” said one commenter, with the screen name Azucena Santos, in Spanish on a YouTube page belonging to Shialeweb, who was recording the caravan. “Poor Mexicans, what’s in store for you!”

https://www.foxnews.com/world/as-new-u-s-bound-caravan-grows-to-more-than-2000-mexicans-lash-out-at-the-migrants

[edjr 5,556]

fauxnews

 

where else would they go looking or that quote

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

All this can end if the Democrats agree to spend 5.7 Billion on walls in certain areas, more border agents, and other items to help curb ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. Mind you 5.7 Billion is but one half of one percent of the total budget.

 

How can any sane person not find this ridiculous? If any other President besides Trump had this line item provision, it'd pass without anyone caring.

 

5.7 billion out of a 4 trillion dollar budget. I saw someone compare that to complaining about spending $47 dollars of your $30,000 renovation budget on fixing your backyard fence.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,513]

5.7 billion out of a 4 trillion dollar budget. I saw someone compare that to complaining about spending $47 dollars of your $30,000 renovation budget on fixing your backyard fence.

 

and having video evidence of that same person adamantly arguing to spend $47 on a fence six months earlier.

[cbfalcon 824]

 

5.7 billion out of a 4 trillion dollar budget. I saw someone compare that to complaining about spending $47 dollars of your $30,000 renovation budget on fixing your backyard fence.

 

If someone has an annual $30,000 renovation budget, that person is too out of touch to try and put things in financial terms us common folk understand

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

If someone has an annual $30,000 renovation budget, that person is too out of touch to try and put things in financial terms us common folk understand

 

When missing points do you generally have your head up your a$$ or someone else's?

[cbfalcon 824]

 

When missing points do you generally have your head up your a$$ or someone else's?

 

Listen, I just know that if I only have a $1,890,000 bathroom budget for next year, this deal would be like asking me to spend $2,961 on a shower curtain.

[KSB2424 3,082]

The 2016 Budget, Obamas last, he increased immigration spending by 3 Billion. Nobody batted an eye.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

Listen, I just know that if I only have a $1,890,000 bathroom budget for next year, this deal would be like asking me to spend $2,961 on a shower curtain.

 

Shower curtain and border wall is apples and oranges.

 

Try front/back door or garage door.

[shorepatrol 1,737]

https://imgur.com/gallery/msK3Tnf

 

Walls work

 

 

[Big Guy 1,400]

Imagine if Trump fined all the people who didn't want the wall much like Obama did with Obamacare.

 

 

If you like your bricklayer, you can keep your bricklayer!

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,574]

I think Stefan Molyneux's take is probably the best I have seen

 

[wiffleball 4,636]

I wasn't going to repost everything from drobes novel. But it cracks me up that the same Administration that blows off anonymous sources is the same one posting from an anonymous source.

 

 

Gutless, I think they call it?

[wiffleball 4,636]

This would be a good time for them to announce congressional raises

Well, everybody in the White House apparently got a $10,000 raise. That was good timing. And then they announced that they're hiring 25 new lawyers. Who do you think is paying for that?

 

But but He bought burgers...

[cbfalcon 824]

I just saw a vid from today where Trump said San Antonios wall helped it go from one of the most unsafe cities to one of the safest cities immediately.

 

Do you guys think he means the Alamo?

[RLLD 3,455]

I just saw a vid from today where Trump said San Antonios wall helped it go from one of the most unsafe cities to one of the safest cities immediately.

 

Do you guys think he means the Alamo?