fandandy 3,311 Posted May 8, 2018 Supposedly at 2pm today Trump will announce that he's scrapping the deal. Questions from a novice; what does this mean and what are the repercussions? If there's already a thread on this, my apologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,968 Posted May 8, 2018 John Kerry will throw a tantrum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted May 8, 2018 Every major US ally (except Israel) approved of the deal, as well as the UN and Atomic Energy Agency. But some "experts" said Iran give too few concessions for too much sanction relief. Perhaps a renegotiation is in order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 8, 2018 Can we take the billions on pallets barry gave them ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,027 Posted May 8, 2018 Can we take the billions on pallets barry gave them ? You know what Drobe, I'll give you all the money that Barry gave the Iraqis, there it is...in your hands right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted May 8, 2018 Iran’s ambassador to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said the nuclear inspection organization is barred from revealing to the United States any details of deals it has inked with Tehran to inspect its contested nuclear program going forward, according to regional reports. Recent disclosures by Iran indicate that the recently inked nuclear accord includes a series of side deals on critical inspections regimes that are neither public nor subject to review by the United States. Reza Najafi, Iran’s ambassador and permanent envoy to the IAEA, stated over the weekend that no country is permitted to know the details of future inspections conducted by the IAEA. In addition, no U.S. inspectors will be permitted to enter Iran’s nuclear sites. http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-u-s-banned-from-knowing-details-of-iran-nuke-agreement/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted May 8, 2018 I havent heard him say it yet. Does he say like W? Nuke You Lur? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted May 8, 2018 this was the worst agreement ever, and of course all of Europe likes it they are all far left socialist libtards, who think Islam is amazing while being raped by sand-igger the worst part about it was the agreement was only for 10 years, and after that Iran was free to do whatever they want. I am with Israel on this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 8, 2018 Why is Kerry violating the Logan act and isn't that bad ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,968 Posted May 8, 2018 Why is Kerry violating the Logan act and isn't that bad ? Only bad if it's not a lib. Try to keep up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 8, 2018 Only bad if it's not a lib. Try to keep up. darnit forgot the first rule of liberal integrity. I sure there's the good ole "it's different this time "excuse out there somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted May 8, 2018 Can the liberals get in here and post thier talking points so that Trump can prove them wrong 6 months from now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 8, 2018 Trump wins again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 190 Posted May 8, 2018 Trump wins again. Everything he does is a huge win. He got the fat toad in NK to negotiate. He'll get these clowns to buckle too. The days of acting like a wimpy cave in nation are over for the next few years. Also, a week or so ago if this would have been announced, the market would have tanked. We are rallying to S&P 1735-1760 at a minimum. Then look out below.....according to Elliot Wave Theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 8, 2018 2 things to know. First, nobody in the Trump Administration has a plan B. This is by their own admission. If Trump tries to even alluded to the fact that Iran is working on nuclear weapons, he's the only one in the world who actually thinks so. For the love of God, let's not get lied into yet another Middle East war on nuclear weapons that don't exist. Remember yellow cake uranium and aluminum tubes? Spend 10 or 20 minutes on YouTube and you will find multiple times where various Israeli leaders have at one point or another for the past 30 years told us that Iran was half a dozen give or take years from developing nuclear weapons. They've had charts and diagrams and experts Etc. That was 30 years ago. Still no nuclear weapons. I don't know if the deal is a good deal or a bad one. But I do know a lot of smarter people from multiple countries think it's better than not having a deal. The trolls are going to do with the trolls do here and elsewhere. But for fucksake, it's one thing for Trump to repeal domestic policy items because Obama made a joke about his skin color at a Correspondents Dinner 5 years ago. But if we're up Global Security because of Trump's insecurities? Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 8, 2018 I'd say increasing the sanctions and turning up the heat is the plan B. But don't let that stop you from spouting Wiffle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted May 8, 2018 2 things to know. First, nobody in the Trump Administration has a plan B. This is by their own admission. If Trump tries to even alluded to the fact that Iran is working on nuclear weapons, he's the only one in the world who actually thinks so. For the love of God, let's not get lied into yet another Middle East war on nuclear weapons that don't exist. Remember yellow cake uranium and aluminum tubes? Spend 10 or 20 minutes on YouTube and you will find multiple times where various Israeli leaders have at one point or another for the past 30 years told us that Iran was half a dozen give or take years from developing nuclear weapons. They've had charts and diagrams and experts Etc. That was 30 years ago. Still no nuclear weapons. I don't know if the deal is a good deal or a bad one. But I do know a lot of smarter people from multiple countries think it's better than not having a deal. The trolls are going to do with the trolls do here and elsewhere. But for fucksake, it's one thing for Trump to repeal domestic policy items because Obama made a joke about his skin color at a Correspondents Dinner 5 years ago. But if we're ###### up Global Security because of Trump's insecurities? Wow. Anyone in the ME can suck it, and that includes the Jews. I'm so tired of them expecting us to carry their water. If you are so god damn worried about Iran then by all means, handle it. I used to admire the guy but I can no longer stand to even look at Netanyahu and I don't trust his super top secret information. That said, Iran refers to us as the great satan so they can go suck a bag of dicks too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 190 Posted May 8, 2018 Anyone in the ME can suck it, and that includes the Jews. I'm so tired of them expecting us to carry their water. If you are so god damn worried about Iran then by all means, handle it. I used to admire the guy but I can no longer stand to even look at Netanyahu and I don't trust his super top secret information. That said, Iran refers to us as the great satan so they can go suck a bag of dicks too. All you have to do is wipe out the ruling wacko religious nuts and Iran youth will go back to hippies 70's. They want to live like us. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4148684/Stunning-photos-reveal-life-Iran-revolution.html Somehow there is something bigger going on or we would have cleared them out decades ago. Of course we it all up to begin with in 1953. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 8, 2018 Anyone in the ME can suck it, and that includes the Jews. I'm so tired of them expecting us to carry their water. If you are so god damn worried about Iran then by all means, handle it. I used to admire the guy but I can no longer stand to even look at Netanyahu and I don't trust his super top secret information. That said, Iran refers to us as the great satan so they can go suck a bag of dicks too. Agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 8, 2018 So Obama has "killed bin Laden "left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 190 Posted May 8, 2018 It's really amazing how badly we that country up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted May 8, 2018 All you have to do is wipe out the ruling wacko religious nuts and Iran youth will go back to hippies 70's. They want to live like us. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4148684/Stunning-photos-reveal-life-Iran-revolution.html Somehow there is something bigger going on or we would have cleared them out decades ago. Of course we ###### it all up to begin with in 1953. Vacuums are never filled with hippies in the ME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted May 8, 2018 You know what Drobe, I'll give you all the money that Barry gave the Iraqis, there it is...in your hands right now. Wat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 8, 2018 Wat?his cat/girlfriend typed that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted May 8, 2018 Can the liberals get in here and post thier talking points so that Trump can prove them wrong 6 months from now?-Trump is going to start a war with Iran (just like he did with Russia, Syria, and North Korea) right on cue Wiff shows up war mongering Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted May 8, 2018 one thing is for use.... He has done a 180 on using teleprompters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 8, 2018 In seven years, that deal will have expired, and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That's not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow." President Donald Trump, discussing the Iran nuclear deal in a White House news conference, April 30, 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,027 Posted May 8, 2018 2 things to know. First, nobody in the Trump Administration has a plan B. This is by their own admission. If Trump tries to even alluded to the fact that Iran is working on nuclear weapons, he's the only one in the world who actually thinks so. For the love of God, let's not get lied into yet another Middle East war on nuclear weapons that don't exist. Remember yellow cake uranium and aluminum tubes? Spend 10 or 20 minutes on YouTube and you will find multiple times where various Israeli leaders have at one point or another for the past 30 years told us that Iran was half a dozen give or take years from developing nuclear weapons. They've had charts and diagrams and experts Etc. That was 30 years ago. Still no nuclear weapons. I don't know if the deal is a good deal or a bad one. But I do know a lot of smarter people from multiple countries think it's better than not having a deal. The trolls are going to do with the trolls do here and elsewhere. But for fucksake, it's one thing for Trump to repeal domestic policy items because Obama made a joke about his skin color at a Correspondents Dinner 5 years ago. But if we're ###### up Global Security because of Trump's insecurities? Wow. Israeli Chief of Staff Lt. General Gadi Eisenkot told a reporter from the newspaper Haaretz that, "Right now the agreement, with all its faults, is working and is putting off realization of the Iranian nuclear vision by 10 to 15 years." While Maj. Gen. (res.) Amos Gilad – the former research chief at Military Intelligence and former director of the policy and military affairs division at the Defense Ministry – admits he had reservations about the nuclear agreement when it was first signed, he now believes a continued U.S. commitment to the deal is the best – or least bad – possible scenario. In an interview on Monday, Gilad said he believes a U.S. withdrawal from the 2015 agreement would help Iran more than Israel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted May 8, 2018 2 things to know. First, nobody in the Trump Administration has a plan B. This is by their own admission. If Trump tries to even alluded to the fact that Iran is working on nuclear weapons, he's the only one in the world who actually thinks so. For the love of God, let's not get lied into yet another Middle East war on nuclear weapons that don't exist. Remember yellow cake uranium and aluminum tubes? Spend 10 or 20 minutes on YouTube and you will find multiple times where various Israeli leaders have at one point or another for the past 30 years told us that Iran was half a dozen give or take years from developing nuclear weapons. They've had charts and diagrams and experts Etc. That was 30 years ago. Still no nuclear weapons. I don't know if the deal is a good deal or a bad one. But I do know a lot of smarter people from multiple countries think it's better than not having a deal. The trolls are going to do with the trolls do here and elsewhere. But for fucksake, it's one thing for Trump to repeal domestic policy items because Obama made a joke about his skin color at a Correspondents Dinner 5 years ago. But if we're ###### up Global Security because of Trump's insecurities? Wow. In the wake of their stunning defeat the Lefties are defending Islamic Terror illegals Chinese steel Chicago murderers Hollywood snowflakes the unaffordable care acmt transgender bathrooms Chemical Warfare Tampon Machines in the Men's Bathrooms tax and spend failed Socialist Governments rioting to prevent free speech America Last punishing success rewarding apathy Nuclear Korea James Comey The Swamp the murder of Seth Rich transferring obscene material to minors MMGW Hypocrisy Politically Correct Nonsense Hillary Clinton Kathy Griffin DUI Globalization Paris Accord Growing the Chinese economy at the expense of the American economy Fake News Pay for Play Partial birth abortion Perjury Assassination Rape Racism Foreign Governments brutalization of American Citizens Human Rights atrocities in Cuba Obstruction of Justice High unemployment among Black Americans Cop Killers MSM Death Panels Transgender Military CNN Voting Fraud Supplying uranium to Russia Government Corruption a Nuclear Iran 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 8, 2018 President Donald Trump could start a war if he chooses to fully withdraw from the Iran deal later this month, French President Emmanuel Macron, who recently visited the White House to discuss the matter, warned over the weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 8, 2018 President Donald Trump could start a war if he chooses to fully withdraw from the Iran deal later this month, French President Emmanuel Macron, who recently visited the White House to discuss the matter, warned over the weekend. At this point I think a war is needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 8, 2018 From them liberal pansies at Fox News. Israel and Iran appear to be on a collision course towards a war that would be terrible for both countries and the wider region. Such a conflict could draw in Iranian-allied fighters in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq and possibly even Palestinians to attack Israel from multiple directions.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 8, 2018 From them liberal pansies at Fox News. Israel and Iran appear to be on a collision course towards a war that would be terrible for both countries and the wider region. Such a conflict could draw in Iranian-allied fighters in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq and possibly even Palestinians to attack Israel from multiple directions.. That would be wild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted May 8, 2018 At this point I think a war is needed. Lets reinsitute the draft and let everyone get a lick in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 8, 2018 From NPR Over the years, Congress has passed numerous sanctions against Iran but given the president the power to waive their enforcement. They come up for waiver or renewal every few months, and the next deadline is Saturday. Under its part of the bargain in the deal, the U.S. has been waiving some of the sanctions — that is, kept them from being enforced — repeatedly. Trump has threatened to stop issuing the waivers, meaning they would be reimposed on Iran. That would place the U.S. in breach of the agreement. The sanctions coming up for continued waivers this week are key. If they were reimposed, they would penalize countries or companies buying oil from Iran by making it hard for them to do business with U.S. banks and markets. So Congress passes resolutions the President waives enforcement because enforcement violates the agreement. And some people think this dog and pony show means something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 8, 2018 Wow. And this is from haar etz. about as hawkish in Israeli newspaper as you're going to find. ----------- Donald Trump Just Put Israel in Immediate Danger Netanyahu has convinced Trump that leaving the Iran deal protects Israel. But the U.S. walk out means a full-on Israel-Iran war in Syria now becomes far more likely ------ And in the breaking banner above? Explosions heard in Syria. Israel fears full on war with Iran in Syria is now likely. .... and here we go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 8, 2018 Let's recap: Previous admin gave rise to ISIS and couldn't/wouldn't do sh!t about it. They also stood by while North Korea did as they pleased as well as Syria. Trump defeated ISIS in less than a year, made North Korea bend the knee, has globalists backpeddling..... So when when the previous admin says something is a bad mistake, you know you're winning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 190 Posted May 8, 2018 From them liberal pansies at Fox News. Israel and Iran appear to be on a collision course towards a war that would be terrible for both countries and the wider region. Such a conflict could draw in Iranian-allied fighters in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq and possibly even Palestinians to attack Israel from multiple directions.. Isreal would just kill them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 8, 2018 Wow. And this is from haar etz. about as hawkish in Israeli newspaper as you're going to find. ----------- Donald Trump Just Put Israel in Immediate Danger Netanyahu has convinced Trump that leaving the Iran deal protects Israel. But the U.S. walk out means a full-on Israel-Iran war in Syria now becomes far more likely ------ And in the breaking banner above? Explosions heard in Syria. Israel fears full on war with Iran in Syria is now likely. .... and here we go. dagnabbit!just when the Iranians were about to seek peace and welcome Israel wirh open arms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 8, 2018 having said all this, if the blurbs I've seen about John Kerry trying to do back Channel diplomacy or true, that's up. News about 15 months ago that we kept hearing from The Rock and his team that there can only be one president at a time. Even if that presidents and incompetent demented old boob. If you sincerely believe there's only one president at a time, then you need to step the off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites