Tomorrow is opening day of deer season in michigan

[edjr 5,552]

I get a kick out of guys who eat cow meat whining about deer hunters.

 

Funny stuff

 

 

Yeah because shooting a deer in the woods, is the same exact thing as eating a cow that lives on a farm and was bred for eating

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Apparently it's car season for deer here in DC. I see huge red stripes on the road followed by a tangled mess of fur all over the place. Must have seen 30 in the past week alone.

[drobeski 3,061]

Apparently it's car season for deer here in DC. I see huge red stripes on the road followed by a tangled mess of fur all over the place. Must have seen 30 in the past week alone.

ban cars

[OldMaid 1,838]

 

Yeah because shooting a deer in the woods, is the same exact thing as eating a cow that lives on a farm and was bred for eating

 

The cow farm is probably worse.

[drobeski 3,061]

The cow farm is probably worse.

but George Carlin ate cow, so its cool.

[kilroy69 993]

The cow farm is probably worse.

but but but edjr says its not. so it must not be.

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

[penultimatestraw 473]

but George Carlin ate cow, so its cool.

So it is Ok for a vegetarian to criticize eating meat?

[drobeski 3,061]

So it is Ok for a vegetarian to criticize eating meat?

sure, at least they aren't hypocritical.

Its also OK to make fun of vegetarians.

[IGotWorms 3,309]

 

 

Yeah because shooting a deer in the woods, is the same exact thing as eating a cow that lives on a farm and was bred for eating

 

 

The deer in the woods at least had a natural life before it was taken. That cow on the mass produced farm has lived a miserable existence since day one.

 

You're fighting a losing battle here. Hell drobeski is beating you, that should say something

[edjr 5,552]

 

That cow on the mass produced farm has lived a miserable existence since day one.

 

 

 

Please let me bury my head in the sand.

[MDC 5,890]

I can't say hunting is morally wrong since farm-bred animals live pretty miserable lives. But I think there's something wrong with killing defenseless animals for sport.

 

I look at it like this: If you met a guy who raised beef cattle for food you wouldn't think much of it. If you found out that he really enjoyed working the throat-splitter you'd think that guy is a focking creep.

 

That's where I fall in hunters.

[IGotWorms 3,309]

I can't say hunting is morally wrong since farm-bred animals live pretty miserable lives. But I think there's something wrong with killing defenseless animals for sport.

 

I look at it like this: If you met a guy who raised beef cattle for food you wouldn't think much of it. If you found out that he really enjoyed working the throat-splitter you'd think that guy is a focking creep.

 

That's where I fall in hunters.

 

Just like anything, there's all kinds.

 

I knew plenty of hunters in Alaska who were almost spiritual about their sport. They felt closer to the animal/Earth/whatever because they had actually taken a life to feed themselves with their own hands. They'd be sure to use all of the animal to honor its contribution and all of that stuff.

 

Then you just have the guys with small cacks who want to feel like a man so they shoot Bambi. Those guys typically drive the overly loud completely unnecessary diesel pickup trucks, FYI

[MDC 5,890]

 

Just like anything, there's all kinds.

 

I knew plenty of hunters in Alaska who were almost spiritual about their sport. They felt closer to the animal/Earth/whatever because they had actually taken a life to feed themselves with their own hands. They'd be sure to use all of the animal to honor its contribution and all of that stuff.

 

Then you just have the guys with small cacks who want to feel like a man so they shoot Bambi. Those guys typically drive the overly loud completely unnecessary diesel pickup trucks, FYI

Most hunters I've known fall into the latter camp. And all of them also are farm-bred animals so the idea that it was morally superior in some way is bull.

 

They just liked shooting Bambi.

[kilroy69 993]

 

Please let me bury my head in the sand.

how about you just pull a robin williams and hang yourself with a belt.

[parrot 789]

I can't say hunting is morally wrong since farm-bred animals live pretty miserable lives. But I think there's something wrong with killing defenseless animals for sport.

 

I look at it like this: If you met a guy who raised beef cattle for food you wouldn't think much of it. If you found out that he really enjoyed working the throat-splitter you'd think that guy is a focking creep.

 

That's where I fall in hunters.

 

Hunting is one of those areas where I generally try not to get into debates much. It's one of those things where generally you're either okay with it, or you aren't, and no amount of persuasion ever seems to change anyone's views much. I will say though that in my experience, the guys who really get off on the killing part are pretty rare. I used to hunt with one and actually quit hunting with this whole crew of guys because of the actions of this one doosh. And, even though I call him a doosh, I still like him in every other facet of life, I just won't hunt with him.

 

It's hard to explain but for a lot of us who were raised with it, it's a family/cultural thing and not really about killing sh!t, or not JUST about that anyway. For most of the guys I hunt with it's mostly about the comradery, or the tradition, or even the challenge (yes I know a lot of people will scoff at that, but come out to Montana and hunt bull elk and then we can talk), more so than the killing. Yes, we're happy when we take an animal but we're pretty happy when we don't too.

[edjr 5,552]

 

 

It's hard to explain but for a lot of us who were raised with it, it's a family/cultural thing

 

Like whipping your 4 year old son?

 

I guess it's okay, he was raised with it

[parrot 789]

 

Like whipping your 4 year old son?

 

I guess it's okay, he was raised with it

 

Yes, just like that, except not at all. As far as I know whipping a child is illegal in every state in the union, thus the culture has deemed it a bad thing. HTH.

 

Oh, and the other reason to not debate hunting is the terrible, inane comparisons and analogies people resort to because they are unable to debate the issue on its own merits.

[edjr 5,552]

 

Yes, just like that, except not at all. As far as I know whipping a child is illegal in every state in the union, thus the culture has deemed it a bad thing. HTH.

 

Using the "I grew up with it excuse" to justify ones actions.

 

is the same exact thing.

 

HTH

[parrot 789]

 

Using the "I grew up with it excuse" to justify ones actions.

 

is the same exact thing.

 

HTH

 

I never said that growing up with something excuses you from breaking the law, so keeping casting at shadows.

[porkbutt 861]

do all the tree huggers up in here have a problem with fishing?

[drobeski 3,061]

do all the tree huggers up in here have a problem with fishing?

you'll notice the loudest Bambi defenders usually are big fans of abortion.

 

Its sort of like a guilt relief I guess.

From a physiological standpoint.

 

My initials aren't DR for nuffin.

 

Animals are animals...big whipdeedoodah.

As long as they are trying to squash the freedoms of good Americans, they are happy.

[edjr 5,552]

 

As long as they are trying to squash the freedoms of good Americans, they are happy.

 

[NorthernVike 2,080]

do all the tree huggers up in here have a problem with fishing?

 

It's ok to eat fish because they don't have any feelings. HTH

[edjr 5,552]

 

It's ok to eat fish because they don't have any feelings. HTH

 

So it would be okay to hunt Mitt Romney?

[drobeski 3,061]

Why do they hate plant life ? How many dead plants in a salad ?

[OldMaid 1,838]

You don't have to like hunting, but it's one of those necessary evils.

 

Now if only they'd open up hunting on the human population. Talk about a herd that needs thinning.

[drobeski 3,061]

You don't have to like hunting, but it's one of those necessary evils.

 

Now if only they'd open up hunting on the human population. Talk about a herd that needs thinning.

a nuke on Cali would help a real lot

[edjr 5,552]

 

Now if only they'd open up hunting on the human population.

 

 

I'm sure those big tough hunters would enjoy hunting if the animals had weapons too

[drobeski 3,061]

 

 

I'm sure those big tough hunters would enjoy hunting if the animals had weapons too

they already do

That's why I support the right to carry.

[porkbutt 861]

they already do

That's why I support the right to carry.

wish i had a gun this weekend. one of those animals stole my car

[The Moz 69]

If you back up to a preserve you should be fine. My land backs up to state land and I draw them in from that.

no man I live In Park Ridge - maybe 20 miles from downtown Chicago if that - I don't even own a rifle - I got a Sig Sauer though I bet I could put one down with at close range anyway

[penultimatestraw 473]

sure, at least they aren't hypocritical.

Its also OK to make fun of vegetarians.

Fair enough. Should you make fun of their meager waistlines or general lack of toughness/manliness?

[penultimatestraw 473]

I can't say hunting is morally wrong since farm-bred animals live pretty miserable lives. But I think there's something wrong with killing defenseless animals for sport.

 

Or you could be consistent, and say killing any defenseless animal is immoral.

[penultimatestraw 473]

do all the tree huggers up in here have a problem with fishing?

Most vegetarians do.

[penultimatestraw 473]

you'll notice the loudest Bambi defenders usually are big fans of abortion.

 

Its sort of like a guilt relief I guess.

From a physiological standpoint.

 

My initials aren't DR for nuffin.

 

Animals are animals...big whipdeedoodah.

As long as they are trying to squash the freedoms of good Americans, they are happy.

I bet every Bambi defender would also object to shooting a baby, or even a fetus.

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

It's ok to eat fish because they don't have any feelings. HTH

There is a line at which sentience begins. Fish can suffer, I think. Not sure about anything less evolved than a crustacean. Drobeski, for example.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Why do they hate plant life ? How many dead plants in a salad ?

They lack the ability to experience pain/suffer. Ever heard a plant scream?

[kilroy69 993]

They lack the ability to experience pain/suffer. Ever heard a plant scream?

Yes but I was smoking it.

[drobeski 3,061]

Fair enough. Should you make fun of their meager waistlines or general lack of toughness/manliness?

only if it can be funny..

Got nothing at the moment.