Kentucky Wildcats vs Philadelphia 76ers

[Mike Honcho 4,010]

Final Score?

[HenryHill9323 65]

0-0

[KSB2424 3,082]

40 minutes or 48 minutes? (i.e. NBA rules or College?)

 

NBA Rules:

 

Sixers 105

Wildcats 84

 

Philly 4-0 sweep in a best of 7, but one game would end up being really close.

 

[patweisers44 697]

When I answered over at FBG, I went along with the Pro vs College argument that even the worst pro...blah blah blah. In football for example, the best college team of all time gets beaten by the Oakland Raiders or the 0-16 lions of a few years back.

 

This might be a case where the college team actually has a chance. Kentucky has a couple guys that are likely gonna be NBA studs and the sixers have two guys that a year or two ago we would have said the same thing about.

[KSB2424 3,082]

This might be a case where the college team actually has a chance. Kentucky has a couple guys that are likely gonna be NBA studs and the sixers have two guys that a year or two ago we would have said the same thing about.

 

It may the closest we will ever come to a pro versus college, but even still, I don't see Kentucky winning.

 

A Las Vegas sportsbook was asked this question today to handi cap it. They came back with Sixers -17

[edjr 5,547]

When I answered over at FBG, I went along with the Pro vs College argument that even the worst pro...blah blah blah. In football for example, the best college team of all time gets beaten by the Oakland Raiders or the 0-16 lions of a few years back.

 

This might be a case where the college team actually has a chance. Kentucky has a couple guys that are likely gonna be NBA studs and the sixers have two guys that a year or two ago we would have said the same thing about.

 

YOOGE difference between NFL and NBA

 

Only need a couple very good guys in the NBA to win.

 

Need a whole team of them in the NFL.

 

Yes a college team could beat a pro team.

 

Villanova beat Georgetown. Close to pro vs college you can get

[drobeski 3,061]

Philly 145 Wildcats 64

[MDC 5,877]

I look forward to a few of those Wildcats playing for my Suxers next year.

[Mike Honcho 4,010]

Vegas has the line at 17.

 

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/20/las-vegas-sports-book-says-sixers-would-be-17-point-favorites-over-kentucky/

[ZeroTolerance 582]

The only way the Wildcats would win is if someone told the Sixers' brass that any wins would count against their lottery position.

[JT 137]

Not close. 3 pt line, physical maturity, daily experience playing vs significantly better players, ball movement superior, schemes on both ends far more sophisticated.

[IGotWorms 3,302]

MDC must be so proud

[MDC 5,877]

MDC must be so proud

Not sure what this means.

[IGotWorms 3,302]

Not sure what this means.

Just a dig on your defending a multi-year tanker

[porkbutt 860]

sixers

 

i got invited to the game tonight....i might go

 

 

 

....for the beer

[KSB2424 3,082]

sixers

 

i got invited to the game tonight....i might go

 

 

 

....for the beer

 

[IGotWorms 3,302]

sixers

 

i got invited to the game tonight....i might go

 

 

 

....for the beer

Why pay eight bucks for a beer?

[KSB2424 3,082]

Why pay eight bucks for a beer?

 

I think he was just making a self deprecating joke on how bad that the team and play is......he's not really just going there to drink beer and thats it. Lighten up, its Friday.

[MDC 5,877]

Just a dig on your defending a multi-year tanker

 

This again? One more time I guess:

 

1. There is tanking in the front office and tanking on the court. Sam Hinkie deliberately constructed a team that is terrible. Brett Brown and the players who take the court for the Sixers are trying to win every night, they're just utterly overmatched. I'd never support players deliberately trying to lose but I can't blame Hinkie for doing what he thinks is in the best long-term interests of the franchise.

 

2. The Sixers tanking is a symptom, not the problem. The real problem is the kind of competitive unbalance that has something like 6 teams win every NBA championship in the past 30 years. Until the league finds a real way to address that issue they have no business blaming teams like the Sixers for blowing it up to get better instead of just playing the Washington Generals for the next decade.

 

3. The Sixers did exactly what the league wants them to do for 12 years and it got them nowhere. They kept signing veteran players around Iverson, kept fielding borderline playoff / 8 seed type teams and swung for the fences for Bynum and it all didn't work. How much longer are they supposed to keep doing the same thing just for the supposed integrity of the league.

 

And finally...

 

4. The Celtics actually tanked their season on the court for a failed shot to get Duncan. They were the original free agent super team, benefitting from a league where only a handful of NBA cities have a shot at marquee free agents and teams like the Sixers can only benefit from the draft. And they tanked last year when they dealt multiple HOFers and they're tanking this year too. So of every fanbase in the NBA, the Celtics have absolutely no right to critize any other team for tanking.

[KSB2424 3,082]

 

This again? One more time I guess:

 

1. There is tanking in the front office and tanking on the court. Sam Hinkie deliberately constructed a team that is terrible. Brett Brown and the players who take the court for the Sixers are trying to win every night, they're just utterly overmatched. I'd never support players deliberately trying to lose but I can't blame Hinkie for doing what he thinks is in the best long-term interests of the franchise.

 

2. The Sixers tanking is a symptom, not the problem. The real problem is the kind of competitive unbalance that has something like 6 teams win every NBA championship in the past 30 years. Until the league finds a real way to address that issue they have no business blaming teams like the Sixers for blowing it up to get better instead of just playing the Washington Generals for the next decade.

 

3. The Sixers did exactly what the league wants them to do for 12 years and it got them nowhere. They kept signing veteran players around Iverson, kept fielding borderline playoff / 8 seed type teams and swung for the fences for Bynum and it all didn't work. How much longer are they supposed to keep doing the same thing just for the supposed integrity of the league.

 

And finally...

 

4. The Celtics actually tanked their season on the court for a failed shot to get Duncan. They were the original free agent super team, benefitting from a league where only a handful of NBA cities have a shot at marquee free agents and teams like the Sixers can only benefit from the draft. And they tanked last year when they dealt multiple HOFers and they're tanking this year too. So of every fanbase in the NBA, the Celtics have absolutely no right to critize any other team for tanking.

 

All that is find and dandy and your reasons are valid, but it still reeks and smells. It just does. I think the Sixers have like 9 guys on their roster that weren't even drafted. They aren't even trying.

[MDC 5,877]

 

All that is find and dandy and your reasons are valid, but it still reeks and smells. It just does. I think the Sixers have like 9 guys on their roster that weren't even drafted. They aren't even trying.

 

It is a giant FU to the league no doubt, but people complain about the Sixers only because they're so transparent about what they're doing. If the NBA doesn't like it they could do something to improve the competitive balance of the league. For example having a salary cap that makes sense to anyone and not having max free agent deals. They could also consider league contraction. But we all know they won't do that because the league doesn't care if the same 5 teams hand the title around every year. Instead they'll come up with ways to discourage tanking. The Cavs winning the lottery in 3 of the past 4 years taught them nothing.

 

I can't blame your casual NBA fan for not liking it. But Celtics fans can kiss my ass. They're just mad that we're better at tanking and more transparent about it.

[phillybear 364]

 

All that is find and dandy and your reasons are valid, but it still reeks and smells. It just does. I think the Sixers have like 9 guys on their roster that weren't even drafted. They aren't even trying.

 

They are trying. Most of their games have been close, but they fall apart in the 4th quarter, whether it's due to lack of experience or lack of guys that want the ball at the end of the game, or probably both. But they are trying. And MCW hasn't had a chance to practice or play for a long time, and was just inserted into the lineup rusty.

[Cruzer 1,992]

They are trying. Most of their games have been close, but they fall apart in the 4th quarter, whether it's due to lack of experience or lack of guys that want the ball at the end of the game, or probably both. But they are trying. And MCW hasn't had a chance to practice or play for a long time, and was just inserted into the lineup rusty.

And bcoz of the stupid draft lottery process, they aren't even guaranteed the #1 in the draft next year, when clearly they should have it.

[KSB2424 3,082]

 

They are trying. Most of their games have been close, but they fall apart in the 4th quarter, whether it's due to lack of experience or lack of guys that want the ball at the end of the game, or probably both. But they are trying. And MCW hasn't had a chance to practice or play for a long time, and was just inserted into the lineup rusty.

 

I didn't mean the players aren't trying, I'm sure they are playing their hearts out. I mean the front office isn't trying to put a good and competitive team out there this year nor did they last year. Maybe they have some grande 5 year plan or something but sheesh they are bad. And as a Charlotte fan of teams past, I know bad.

[jerryskids 5,172]

Not close. 3 pt line, physical maturity, daily experience playing vs significantly better players, ball movement superior, schemes on both ends far more sophisticated.

Yep. Kentucky would look like... well, what they are -- a HS all star team. Take any one of them and put them on an NBA team and they might be a star on that team. As a group though they'd get killed by an NBA team.

[KSB2424 3,082]

Yep. Kentucky would look like... well, what they are -- a HS all star team. Take any one of them and put them on an NBA team and they might be a star on that team. As a group though they'd get killed by an NBA team.

 

I don't totally disagree and what you say is true 99.9% of the time. I hate it when this quesiton Pro vesus College comes up as it pretty stupid. BUUUUTTTTTT

 

In this specific case this may be the closest it has ever been. The Sixers recent draft picks aren't even playing as they are hurt. They have 9 players on their roster who weren't even drafted at all.

 

I think this question has less to do with Kentucky per se and just a comment on how bad the 76'ers are. With that said they'd still win by 20.

[phillybear 364]

And bcoz of the stupid draft lottery process, they aren't even guaranteed the #1 in the draft next year, when clearly they should have it.

 

They could still get it. They won't do worse than #4 anyway.

 

If memory serves me right, they have something like 18 draft picks over the next 5 seasons as well, including very likely two #1s this upcoming year.

[Cruzer 1,992]

They could still get it. They won't do worse than #4 anyway.

Could get it yes, but not guaranteed. To maybe get the 4th pick is completely stupid.

[phillybear 364]

 

I didn't mean the players aren't trying, I'm sure they are playing their hearts out. I mean the front office isn't trying to put a good and competitive team out there this year nor did they last year. Maybe they have some grande 5 year plan or something but sheesh they are bad. And as a Charlotte fan of teams past, I know bad.

 

It's important to point out that if the Sixers were to accidentally make the playoffs this year, they would forfeit their 1st round pick to Boston. They have to lose this yea to get another lottery player and they would only have to give up a future 2nd to Boston, if anything.

 

There is a long term plan. Aside from all the lottery picks so far, Noel, MCW, Embiid, Saric, they will add more first rounders, have stashed a butt load of talented players overseas, and have more cap room than anybody. In a year or two, this team could be very good. It's an interesting rebuild.

[MDC 5,877]

 

It's important to point out that if the Sixers were to accidentally make the playoffs this year, they would forfeit their 1st round pick to Boston. They have to lose this yea to get another lottery player and they would only have to give up a future 2nd to Boston, if anything.

 

There is a long term plan. Aside from all the lottery picks so far, Noel, MCW, Embiid, Saric, they will add more first rounders, have stashed a butt load of talented players overseas, and have more cap room than anybody. In a year or two, this team could be very good. It's an interesting rebuild.

My concern is that in a few years when we harvest all those assets we could end up with exactly what we had before: a team that's maxed out at the 7-8 seed with no hot at a championship. But after the past 12 years I think we agree that Sixer fans will take the potential for greatness long term over the certainty that the team would be mediocre forever.

 

We will see. Blowing up the team for assets was ballsy but easy. Hinkie now has to prove that he can draft and assemble a quality team.

[porkbutt 860]

 

I think he was just making a self deprecating joke on how bad that the team and play is......he's not really just going there to drink beer and thats it. Lighten up, its Friday.

yes i was. worms needs to get laid or something...dudes very sensitive today

[IGotWorms 3,302]

yes i was. worms needs to get laid or something...dudes very sensitive today

You offering?

[jerryskids 5,172]

I just watched the second quarter of the Suns-Sixers game. I may retract my stance of a Sixers blowout over Kentucky.

[kilroy69 993]

It's hard to tell how good the sixers really are with them tanking.

[bweiser831 0]

 

They are trying. Most of their games have been close, but they fall apart in the 4th quarter, whether it's due to lack of experience or lack of guys that want the ball at the end of the game, or probably both. But they are trying. And MCW hasn't had a chance to practice or play for a long time, and was just inserted into the lineup rusty.

 

actually, most of the games haven't been close. they are 4-8 against the spread. pretty sure they haven't been a favorite yet.

 

i don't think they could beat kentucky if it was just one game. i would definitely take kentucky plus 17. people who think the 76ers would have an advantage in a 48-minute game because of the extra 8 minutes have never watched this team. they really suck in the 4th quarter. they run out of gas and, therefore, wouldn't have an edge in the final 8 minutes.

 

i think this team is epically bad. i really think they have a shot at 9-73. i lived that when i was about 10. i went to probably 35 games that year. i am home most nights now and watch at least a half when i am. they're pathetic.

 

0-12 and no end in sight.

[The Moz 69]

Noel would defect from the 6ers and go back to play for UK for the game -- UK 82 - Philly - 68

[The Moz 69]

If you took a combo of JUST the Kentucky players of the last 6 years and made an NBA team what would the odds be on that team of winning a NBA title?

 

JohnWall

Eric Bledsoe

Michael Kidd Gilchrist

Anthony Davis ( IMO the heir apparent to LBJ for best in the league)

Demarcus Cousins

 

Brandon Knight

Julius Randle

Nerlens Noel

Patrick Patterson

Jodie Meeks

Karl Towns (currently freshman at UK)

James Young

[CantTouchThis 23]

This is the one time I think the discussion is somewhat legit. I forget who said this but it's mainly because of how young Philly is. They are basically a team full of 20-25 year olds who only have a minimal amount of NBA experience. If the worst NBA team had a bunch of veterans, then it would be no contest.

 

Plus UK has 11 NBA-caliber players, and, what, 5 or 6 lottery picks at least.

 

NBA-rules: Philly wins easily, I think they take a 30+ point lead in the 4th and maybe UK can trim it to around 20-25 in the best case scenario. However, I think Philly plays hard to the buzzer. Philly 131-88.

 

College-rules: This is where it might get interesting. I think on a neutral court, Philly wins somewhat easily, something like 98-71. However, if they are playing at UK, if a couple players could get hot from beyond the 3 and Philly comes out flat, I can see UK at least making a game of it.

[phillybear 364]

 

actually, most of the games haven't been close. they are 4-8 against the spread. pretty sure they haven't been a favorite yet.

 

i don't think they could beat kentucky if it was just one game. i would definitely take kentucky plus 17. people who think the 76ers would have an advantage in a 48-minute game because of the extra 8 minutes have never watched this team. they really suck in the 4th quarter. they run out of gas and, therefore, wouldn't have an edge in the final 8 minutes.

 

i think this team is epically bad. i really think they have a shot at 9-73. i lived that when i was about 10. i went to probably 35 games that year. i am home most nights now and watch at least a half when i am. they're pathetic.

 

0-12 and no end in sight.

 

Meh, you said they run out of gas in the 4th quarter, I say they fall apart in the 4th quarter. It's just quibbling.

 

The other night they fell behind New York by 20+ and battled back to single digits in the late stages in the 4th. They won't be favored in any game the rest of the year. They will be adding Furkan Aldemir any day now, so at least they will have a badly needed guy that can rebound, one of their many stashed overseas players. Can't hurt.

[bweiser831 0]

 

Meh, you said they run out of gas in the 4th quarter, I say they fall apart in the 4th quarter. It's just quibbling.

 

The other night they fell behind New York by 20+ and battled back to single digits in the late stages in the 4th. They won't be favored in any game the rest of the year. They will be adding Furkan Aldemir any day now, so at least they will have a badly needed guy that can rebound, one of their many stashed overseas players. Can't hurt.

 

Who? Sure he'll be a difference maker.

 

God this team is so bad. They get a rematch with the Mavericks tonight. They'll probably lose by less than 53.