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I swear to God. This dude has a photo album of front office people with goats in compromising situations andddddd/orrrrrr he straight up has a witch doctor/rain man casting spells. He is made of glass. If I were them I'd out it in his contract. He stays in a bubble when off the field. Just to mitigate injury risk.

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:bench: He'll be sitting to this guy by week 5. Always injured.

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I expect them to make a run at Glennon when he is released.

Lol winner.

 

Isaiah 25:8.

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All this does is buy them a year (or maybe two) to develop another QB.

 

they still need to draft one, but this allows them to develop a new #1 WR.

 

My guess is they draft one in round 2. There is a chance it happens in round 1, but they have other holes to fill as well.

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It's hard too see them drafting a QB after signing two.

 

They do indeed have other holes to fill.

 

I'm sorry DJ owners.

 

Psalm 73:28

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It's hard too see them drafting a QB after signing two.

 

They do indeed have other holes to fill.

 

I'm sorry DJ owners.

 

Psalm 73:28

Bedford is the dump pass master, what a there to be sorry about? Maybe non ppr

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I not to sure who Bedford is, but Bradford the dump master hasn't been on the field much during his NFL days.

 

This is going to be a tough season for Zona and DJ owners, I which it sounds like your one.

 

Last season mr dumb off avg 8.88 yards per att, Keenum avg 7.37 and Palmer avg 7.41.

 

Over The last three seasons Bradford avg 7.63 per att and Palmer 7.73.

 

Bradford isn't the QB Palmer was.

 

 

Sorry.

 

Proverbs 14:7.

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I expect them to make a run at Glennon when he is released.

:nono:

 

Mediocrity, thy name is Glennon....

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I'd say he's below mediocre.

He's a backup. There are a ton of backups that are considered "below mediocre".

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He's a backup. There are a ton of backups that are considered "below mediocre".

Nah the preseaon depth chart will be listed like this.

Starter A. Bradford week 1

B. Glennon week 2-17

Backup: Rookie TBD

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Nah the preseaon depth chart will be listed like this.

Starter A. Bradford week 1

B. Glennon week 2-17

Backup: Rookie TBD

Hahaha... I hope not. I kind of like Arizona.

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Hahaha... I hope not. I kind of like Arizona.

I'm not a huge fan of theirs. I do pull for them to get the win, but that's mainly because of Fitz being a great person, and they happen to be my home town team.

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My only vested interest is the prediction I made a couple of months back because I don't own DJ or the 1.01 anywhere, but I am definitely vibing full steam ahead on my Saquan Barkley>DJ for dynasty value/startups by summer, which sounded pretty silly back then. The Az situation pre-coaching change/FA/Draft was as murky and had as much downside as the unknown location for Barkley............ and it wasn't priced in for DJ IMO.

It seems to me closer to worst case so far in the Valley of the Sun. Only thing I could imagine worse at this point would be Az now drafting Chubb if he falls or something like that, to take a little load and GL duties off DJs plate..........no way that would happen of course, just saying seems like when it rains it pours.............. even true in the desert.

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Quick... which QB is Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Sam Bradford, and Mike Glennon:

QB A: 60.6% / 4.4 TD% / 2.6 Int% / 6.1 ypa / 83.2 passer rating

QB B: 61.7% / 3.8 TD% / 2.5 Int% / 6.8 ypa / 84.1 passer rating

QB C: 59.8% / 4.6 TD% / 3.1 Int% / 7.0 ypa / 83.5 passer rating

QB D: 62.5% / 3.5 TD% / 2.0 Int% / 6.6 ypa / 85.1 passer rating

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Quick... which QB is Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Sam Bradford, and Mike Glennon:

QB A: 60.6% / 4.4 TD% / 2.6 Int% / 6.1 ypa / 83.2 passer rating

QB B: 61.7% / 3.8 TD% / 2.5 Int% / 6.8 ypa / 84.1 passer rating

QB C: 59.8% / 4.6 TD% / 3.1 Int% / 7.0 ypa / 83.5 passer rating

QB D: 62.5% / 3.5 TD% / 2.0 Int% / 6.6 ypa / 85.1 passer rating

 

QB A: 60.6% / 4.4 TD% / 2.6 Int% / 6.1 ypa / 83.2 passer rating - Glennon

QB B: 61.7% / 3.8 TD% / 2.5 Int% / 6.8 ypa / 84.1 passer rating - Flacco

QB C: 59.8% / 4.6 TD% / 3.1 Int% / 7.0 ypa / 83.5 passer rating - Manning

QB D: 62.5% / 3.5 TD% / 2.0 Int% / 6.6 ypa / 85.1 passer rating - Bradford

How'd I do?

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QB A: 60.6% / 4.4 TD% / 2.6 Int% / 6.1 ypa / 83.2 passer rating - Glennon

QB B: 61.7% / 3.8 TD% / 2.5 Int% / 6.8 ypa / 84.1 passer rating - Flacco

QB C: 59.8% / 4.6 TD% / 3.1 Int% / 7.0 ypa / 83.5 passer rating - Manning

QB D: 62.5% / 3.5 TD% / 2.0 Int% / 6.6 ypa / 85.1 passer rating - Bradford

 

How'd I do?

 

 

Nailed it. 4 QB's with similar resumes. Two apparently suck, one is apparently an HOF candidate, and the other is above average. They're all the same QB, just their situations were different. I think they're all "average" QB's.

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Nailed it. 4 QB's with similar resumes. Two apparently suck, one is apparently an HOF candidate, and the other is above average. They're all the same QB, just their situations were different. I think they're all "average" QB's.

It's also interesting that the higher pick rate is what gives the potential HOF away.

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It's also interesting that the higher pick rate is what gives the potential HOF away.

 

... and the lowest completion percentage.

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Why do teams keep signing this guy?

If you need a barely serviceable QB but have no other options, hell have to do

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Nailed it. 4 QB's with similar resumes. Two apparently suck, one is apparently an HOF candidate, and the other is above average. They're all the same QB, just their situations were different. I think they're all "average" QB's.

The HOF and above average guy stepped up and played their team to a super bowl title when it counted. One of them did it twice.

 

HTH

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By the end of his next contract Sam Bradford will have made 138 million between 3 teams. He has never thrown for 4k yards. Never been to a pro bowl. Never topped 25 tds in a year.

 

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing nfl teams Sam Bradford exists.

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The HOF and above average guy stepped up and played their team to a super bowl title when it counted. One of them did it twice.

 

HTH

 

The HOF and above average guys had their defenses carry them through either the season and/or the playoffs, an above average to elite running game, quality receiving options to throw to, and above average coaching.

 

Since their last Super Bowl win and without the talent surrounding them, Flacco is 38-36 and Eli is 42-53.

 

HTH

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Why do teams keep signing this guy?

A bigger question is why they pay him so much. He has made $115M so far WITHOUT this contract. Unreal.

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I'm thinking the biggest reason to pay him that much is because of the salary cap. My guess is that the Cardinals are/were too far under the floor that they had to get above it. You don't want to screw up the salary scale and pay a guy like Mathieu $25M, so you take a position that's already excessive and you give a guy a big money deal that will get you over the hump this year and it won't hurt you long term.

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I'm thinking the biggest reason to pay him that much is because of the salary cap. My guess is that the Cardinals are/were too far under the floor that they had to get above it. You don't want to screw up the salary scale and pay a guy like Mathieu $25M, so you take a position that's already excessive and you give a guy a big money deal that will get you over the hump this year and it won't hurt you long term.

Incorrect guess.

 

The Cards had about $25-30M in cap after releases. It may seem like a decent chunk, but they were looking to replace about six or seven starters on offense. Outside of DJ, Fitz and a couple rookie contract O-linemen, they're trying to replace everyone on offense. The two QB contracts really killed any chance they had at assembling a decent O-line and supporting cast of receivers. Since Bradford, they've signed a couple injury prone, veteran, mid level linemen, and had another take a pay cut that ideally I think they wanted to replace. The receivers are still just Fitz and a couple of guys you don't want to count on.

 

McCown @ $10mill would have been better for them imo. They get the bridge QB and they still could have signed a good supporting cast that could help an incoming rookie QB when he's ready to take over.

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Incorrect guess.

 

The Cards had about $25-30M in cap after releases. It may seem like a decent chunk, but they were looking to replace about six or seven starters on offense. Outside of DJ, Fitz and a couple rookie contract O-linemen, they're trying to replace everyone on offense. The two QB contracts really killed any chance they had at assembling a decent O-line and supporting cast of receivers. Since Bradford, they've signed a couple injury prone, veteran, mid level linemen, and had another take a pay cut that ideally I think they wanted to replace. The receivers are still just Fitz and a couple of guys you don't want to count on.

 

McCown @ $10mill would have been better for them imo. They get the bridge QB and they still could have signed a good supporting cast that could help an incoming rookie QB when he's ready to take over.

 

Oh well... I tried. LOL

 

I think they'd have been better off with just Glennon and not McCown or Bradford, but hey, it's their corps they're burying, not mine. :doublethumbsup:

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Oh hell, can't people just get past what teams are paying QBs these days? They can't get far without a good one. Injuries happen, otherwise Bradford is very good. At least gives them a chance to compete. Otherwise they just mail it in.

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Oh hell, can't people just get past what teams are paying QBs these days? They can't get far without a good one. Injuries happen, otherwise Bradford is very good. At least gives them a chance to compete. Otherwise they just mail it in.

Thats where we disagree

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Thats where we disagree

 

I think that's because you're opinion of Bradford has been ruined by Steve Spagnuolo and Jeff Fisher. His numbers outside of St. Louis are significantly better than in St. Louis.

 

In - 58.6% / 3.4 TD% / 2.2 Int% / 6.3 ypa / 79.3 passer rating (49 games)

Out - 68.6% / 3.7 TD% / 1.7 Int% / 7.1 ypa / 94.2 passer rating (31 games)

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I think that's because you're opinion of Bradford has been ruined by Steve Spagnuolo and Jeff Fisher. His numbers outside of St. Louis are significantly better than in St. Louis.

 

In - 58.6% / 3.4 TD% / 2.2 Int% / 6.3 ypa / 79.3 passer rating (49 games)

Out - 68.6% / 3.7 TD% / 1.7 Int% / 7.1 ypa / 94.2 passer rating (31 games)

I dont question the guys talent. He's been really good the last couple of years.

 

what I question is his ability to stay healthy. For him, that's where your risk is.

 

you would like to think that a team with a fragile QB would invest in the line to protect their investment, but the Cards dont seem to be working that angle. I suspect this may also hurt the fantasy numbers of David Johnson as well.

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No question the QB situation with Zona is going to effect the ff output for DJ.

 

Load the box stop the run, and that should be the key.

 

Proverbs 15:11&12&14.

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DJ is the only real play maker they have, I can't imagine his workload gets lighter, but there is a new coach and philosophy coming to AZ, and it will be night and day from the Bruce Arians offense. The head coach was the d coordinator in Carolina, and the offense will play into the defense. The insiders here say the offensive side of the ball will be run centered that may even feature a full back and double TE sets. They like Bradfords quick release and the passing game will reflect that. Quick routes, limited shots down field, and keeping extra blockers in. They still have no idea who will be catching passes other than Fitz, and I think that says how they view the importance of those positions.

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Lighter workload, I don't see, but production from that workload could be a different issue.

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Lighter workload, I don't see, but production from that workload could be a different issue.

Certainly. They don't have back up under contract yet, so I'd pay attention to that. His backup will likely lighten either his reception or carry total. If it's a between the tackls guy, DJ probably will maintain an absurd reception total.

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