Talladega never disappoints

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I was hoping Bowyer would've finished better but it was good to see him leading some laps. He needed a new start and he got one this year.

[shotsup 830]

88

 

[mobb_deep 917]

At least Danica can say she swallowed a winning load now.

[Big Guy 1,400]

Shake & Bake!!!

[dain11279 926]

No one died, bummer

[shotsup 830]

No one died, bummer

Settle down posty

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I was hoping Bowyer would've finished better but it was good to see him leading some laps. He needed a new start and he got one this year.

Just goes to show how weak Danica is.

Same team, same info, yet Clint (who is a damn good driver imo) can lead a few laps at least where as Danica never seems to even sniff the top 20 in any race.

At least my boy Kyle Bush had a great showing for a change.

[edjr 5,546]

Danica is the unluckiest driver ever

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Danica is the unluckiest driver ever

 

She is lucky she is even out there with the minimal talent she has.

[edjr 5,546]

 

She is lucky she is even out there with the minimal talent she has.

 

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

 

 

She is garbage. There are 30 drivers in the Nationwide series that are more talented than her, but they don't have the following she does so they get passed on. She is literally in the some of the best equipment there is (Stewart-Haas Racing) and can't even get into the top 10. She sucks. The experiment is over. She is out there because she sells tickets, thats it.

 

Now why do you think she is good? Are you defending her simply because she is a woman? Does that make you feel good about yourself? I am actually a good person so I don't need to act like I am outraged by something when I'm not just to seem like a good person.

[bostonlager 2,457]

 

She is garbage. There are 30 drivers in the Nationwide series that are more talented than her, but they don't have the following she does so they get passed on. She is literally in the some of the best equipment there is (Stewart-Haas Racing) and can't even get into the top 10. She sucks. The experiment is over. She is out there because she sells tickets, thats it.

 

Now why do you think she is good? Are you defending her simply because she is a woman? Does that make you feel good about yourself?

 

You don't even need to look at the Nationwide series, there are better drivers on the Monster series driving inferior cars for inferior teams that would kill to drive for SHR. I think Tony will eventually get tired of it and boot her for someone better. He'd have one hell of a team if he got rid of her and convinced Edwards to come out of retirement.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

 

You don't even need to look at the Nationwide series, there are better drivers on the Monster series driving inferior cars for inferior teams that would kill to drive for SHR. I think Tony will eventually get tired of it and boot her for someone better. He'd have one hell of a team if he got rid of her and convinced Edwards to come out of retirement.

 

Agreed.

 

I don't think so, the sport in itself is struggling and NASCAR will do everything they can to keep her in there as long as she is selling tickets. Hell I bet Danica is Tony's most profitable race team even though she wrecks all the time and never finishes good. Sucks they have to do things like this now days just to sell some tickets.

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You don't even need to look at the Nationwide series, there are better drivers on the Monster series driving inferior cars for inferior teams that would kill to drive for SHR. I think Tony will eventually get tired of it and boot her for someone better. He'd have one hell of a team if he got rid of her and convinced Edwards to come out of retirement.

Or Edwards old teammate, Greg Biffle. Dude has won 20 races and almost won the championship. Somehow Danica and Dale Jr. have a ride, and he doesn't.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Or Edwards old teammate, Greg Biffle. Dude has won 20 races and almost won the championship. Somehow Danica and Dale Jr. have a ride, and he doesn't.

 

Biffle was a great driver. My first race in person was the 2003 Pepsi 400 (it may have already changed to Coke Zero 400 I don't remember) and it was actually his first win as well, remember he won it on fuel millage. Great race. He was a wheelman, like a poor mans Kyle Busch. Apparently he got some offers for this season but nothing was winning equipment so he turned it down. Would love to see him do something similar to Elliott Sadler and go full time in Nationwide.

[bostonlager 2,457]

Or Edwards old teammate, Greg Biffle. Dude has won 20 races and almost won the championship. Somehow Danica and Dale Jr. have a ride, and he doesn't.

 

 

I completely forgot about Biff. I could see him being successful again with SHR. Read a rumor yesterday day Hendrick my try to convince Edwards to come drive the 88 next year.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

 

 

I completely forgot about Biff. I could see him being successful again with SHR. Read a rumor yesterday day Hendrick my try to convince Edwards to come drive the 88 next year.

 

I think it is either going to be Edwards or Will Byron. Alex Bowman has to be in the conversation as well. I would prefer Will Byron. Kid can drive.

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Kyle Larson is also a possibility. Has a similar driving style to Jr, so his crew would be a good fit too.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Kyle Larson is also a possibility. Has a similar driving style to Jr, so his crew would be a good fit too.

 

I don't think Kyle wants to be teammates with Elliott, thats the only reason I can see him not going there.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Kyle Larson is also a possibility. Has a similar driving style to Jr, so his crew would be a good fit too.

 

Will Byron

Carl Edwards

Alex Bowman

Chris Buescher (heard he was going to be the driver of the 88 if Jr didn't race this year)

Kyle Larson

 

I think those are the only possibilities. In that order.

 

Crazy part about HMS is if they were able to hang on to Busch back in the mid 2000s their lineup going into 2018 could have been:

 

Jimmie Johnson

Chase Elliott

Kyle Busch

One of the drivers above

[5-Points 2,715]

Just goes to show how weak Danica is.

Same team, same info, yet Clint (who is a damn good driver imo) can lead a few laps at least where as Danica never seems to even sniff the top 20 in any race.

At least my boy Kyle Bush had a great showing for a change.

Just goes to show that there's more to racing than just turning left all day.

 

Imagine if Clint and Danica had swapped rides during the off season and he was now driving the #10 and she was driving the #15.

 

He'd still be running in the top 10 and she's prolly dead last, if she still has a ride.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Just goes to show that there's more to racing than just turning left all day.

 

Imagine if Clint and Danica had swapped rides during the off season and he was now driving the #10 and she was driving the #15.

 

He'd still be running in the top 10 and she's prolly dead last, if she still has a ride.

 

Whenever someone says this I always point out that all sports are stupid if you get down to what they are actually trying to do.

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Whenever someone says this I always point out that all sports are stupid if you get down to what they are actually trying to do.

It's usually said out of a smug sense of superiority. I just laugh at those people.

 

They're typically the same peeps who can't even park their Prius between the lines without focking it up.

[Cruzer 1,992]

Seriously, what makes a driver "good". To the naked eye, they all seem just be doing about the same thing - the winner coming from the lucky one who avoided crashes and didn't run out of fuel.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Seriously, what makes a driver "good". To the naked eye, they all seem just be doing about the same thing - the winner coming from the lucky one who avoided crashes and didn't run out of fuel.

 

Whoever can keep the car on the edge the most without wrecking it. The difference between a driver who is great at it and a driver who is good at it is probably only a tenth of a second. Another thing I like to point out, if it is easy for you, it is easy for everyone. So the competition you are facing becomes more difficult. It isn't true because it actually is hard, just making a point. They don't drive like street cars. You steer just as much with the gas and brake as you do the steering wheel. And couldn't your point translate to any sport?

[Cruzer 1,992]

And couldn't your point translate to any sport?

Not really... Soccer moms can't visualize what it's like to run between the tackles on 3rd and 1, nor can they relate to hitting a 3 from beyond the arc.. but they all drive. Even though it isn't the same kind of car, they've all sped at one time or aother, least gotten some sense of hauling ass in a car.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Not really... Soccer moms can't visualize what it's like to run between the tackles on 3rd and 1, nor can they relate to hitting a 3 from beyond the arc.. but they all drive. Even though it isn't the same kind of car, they've all sped at one time or aother, least gotten some sense of hauling ass in a car.

 

Driving a race car is nothing like driving your mini van brother. I think your point is correct but you have it backwards. Everyone has thrown a football and baseball or kicked a soccer ball, a very small percentage has driven an actual race car.

[edjr 5,546]

 

Driving a race car is nothing like driving your mini van brother. I think your point is correct but you have it backwards. Everyone has thrown a football and baseball or kicked a soccer ball, a very small percentage has driven an actual race car.

 

spot on

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH80AOZbvmc

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf7Wr4ICfrI

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Sorry ed, but she's a gimmick.

[edjr 5,546]

Sorry ed, but she's a gimmick.

 

she can gimmick for me any day

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Not really... Soccer moms can't visualize what it's like to run between the tackles on 3rd and 1, nor can they relate to hitting a 3 from beyond the arc.. but they all drive. Even though it isn't the same kind of car, they've all sped at one time or aother, least gotten some sense of hauling ass in a car.

The next time you find yourself in bumper to bumper traffic, imagine you're going 180 MPH. and the temp in your car is 140°. Then realize you need to keep doing that for 3 more hours.

 

That doesn't even touch on drafting, side drafting, restarts, tire wear, fuel mileage, avoiding wrecks, pit stops, etc....

[mobb_deep 917]

Talladega and Daytona definitely have more of a luck element than other tracks though. If Manica ever does win a race, it will be at one of those tracks.

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

Talladega and Daytona definitely have more of a luck element than other tracks though. If Manica ever does win a race, it will be at one of those tracks.

 

This is true. And the sh!tty part about it is the casual fan doesn't know the difference between a RP track and a regular 1.5 mile track or short track and they will act like she did it on talent alone when it is just the nature of restrictor plate racing.

[SUXBNME 1,319]

Talladega and Daytona definitely have more of a luck element than other tracks though. If Manica ever does win a race, it will be at one of those tracks.

Acreed

[Strike 3,941]

Seriously, what makes a driver "good". To the naked eye, they all seem just be doing about the same thing - the winner coming from the lucky one who avoided crashes and didn't run out of fuel.

 

As someone who has gone from being an ok driver on the street to a solid driver on a race track through 100's of laps and a lot of training, I'll tackle this. Anyone CAN drive on a race track. But there's a reason guys like Jimmy Johnson, Kyle Busch, etc....consistently find themselves at the front of field. One of the biggest things that differentiates good and bad drivers is how smooth they are with their inputs. You don't slam on the gas when exiting a corner. You roll in to it smoothly. Same with steering. You set up the corner and smoothly enter at the right angles. That angle will differ based upon weather and track conditions. The first thing any driver knows when they go to a track is that it may drive totally differently than the last time you were there. One time, at a track I'd driven a bunch of times, they repaved one corner and it was much slicker than on previous days at this track. My mind refused to believe it and I kept trying to go through it at the speeds I was used to, and I kept almost spinning out. Until I finally did spin out. But being smooth is so important. It allows you to approach the limit without wrecking. And when driving through the corner you're making find adjustments the entire time. It may look like they're all the same to your naked eye but some are better at all these techniques than others, and able to get closer to the limit than others. Also, decisions you make about your speed entering and exiting corners can have a direct impact on your lap times.

 

When it comes to racing in an actual race, another thing that comes in to play is the ability of the driver to communicate to his team exactly what the car is doing wrong so they can correct it during their pit stops. Some of these guys are much better at that as well, which allows them to consistently have better handling cars. So it's not all about driving skill. Some is communication skills.

 

There's obviously a lot more but hopefully this gives you a little insight in to what makes a good driver.

[5-Points 2,715]

#14

[mobb_deep 917]

#18 in 18!!!

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[tanatastic 2,061]

The next time you find yourself in bumper to bumper traffic, imagine you're going 180 MPH. and the temp in your car is 140°. Then realize you need to keep doing that for 3 more hours.

That doesn't even touch on drafting, side drafting, restarts, tire wear, fuel mileage, avoiding wrecks, pit stops, etc....

This right here. Guys, remember that one time you were doing 90 and the car on your side was just a bit too close and you almost peed your pants? Remember when you did 120 that one time 20 years ago on an empty road and almost peed your pants? Yea...add in many other cars inches from you at all times doing speeds you have only seen in cartoons and you get a vague idea. It’s a mental and physical marathon of managing yourself, the cars needs and optimizing precision driving techniques.

[5-Points 2,715]

 Dega!