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the "age guideline" I cut and pasted ? Like right above your reply ?

Ok. Those are the requesting guidelines, and not the program requirements. You left out the requirements right above your source.

 

Right from the same government website:

 

Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;

Came to the United States before reaching your 16th birthday;

Have continuously resided in the United States since June 15, 2007, up to the present time;

Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making your request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;

Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012;

Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate, or are an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; and

Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor,or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.

 

 

See. It say before your 16th birthday. You have to 15 or older to request it, but you still have to meet the guidelines.

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So a guy will work in a coal mine but he won't do construction, so we need Mexicans to build stuff. Ok.

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You're such a condescending focktard. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them automatically stupid. Your arrogance is tiring. Your shtick is predictable. Grow the fock up.

I never claimed just disagreeing with me makes someone stupid.

 

Cheering this on though does.

The ignorance displayed by those supporting this move is proving me right.

 

Your childish crap is very predictable as is your ignorance and inability to form an intelligent thought or argument.

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I never claimed just disagreeing with me makes someone stupid.

 

Cheering this on though does.

The ignorance displayed by those supporting this move is proving me right.

 

Your childish crap is very predictable as is your ignorance and inability to form an intelligent thought or argument.

shut up you ignorant tool

 

That is all

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Surprised down the middle Slownuff once again took the liberal position?

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Surprised down the middle Slownuff once again took the liberal position?

Amazingly so did CNN. Shocked i tell ya.

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Amazingly so did CNN. Shocked i tell ya.

Shocked RP still follows me around like a puppy.

Asfor this issue...it's not a straight right or left issue.

 

And you have proven your utter ignorance when it comes to the issue.

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Trump nailed it!

 

WHITE HOUSE "As President, my highest duty is to defend the American people and the Constitution of the United States of America. At the same time, I do not favor punishing children, most of whom are now adults, for the actions of their parents. But we must also recognize that we are nation of opportunity because we are a nation of laws.

 

The legislative branch, not the executive branch, writes these laws this is the bedrock of our Constitutional system, which I took a solemn oath to preserve, protect, and defend.

 

In June of 2012, President Obama bypassed Congress to give work permits, social security numbers, and federal benefits to approximately 800,000 illegal immigrants currently between the ages of 15 and 36. The typical recipients of this executive amnesty, known as DACA, are in their twenties. Legislation offering these same benefits had been introduced in Congress on numerous occasions and rejected each time.

 

 

In referencing the idea of creating new immigration rules unilaterally, President Obama admitted that I cant just do these things by myself and yet that is exactly what he did, making an end-run around Congress and violating the core tenets that sustain our Republic.

 

Officials from 10 States are suing over the program, requiring my Administration to make a decision regarding its legality. The Attorney General of the United States, the Attorneys General of many states, and virtually all other top legal experts have advised that the program is unlawful and unconstitutional and cannot be successfully defended in court.

 

There can be no path to principled immigration reform if the executive branch is able to rewrite or nullify federal laws at will.

 

The temporary implementation of DACA by the Obama Administration, after Congress repeatedly rejected this amnesty-first approach, also helped spur a humanitarian crisis the massive surge of unaccompanied minors from Central America including, in some cases, young people who would become members of violent gangs throughout our country, such as MS-13.

 

Only by the reliable enforcement of immigration law can we produce safe communities, a robust middle class, and economic fairness for all Americans.

 

Therefore, in the best interests of our country, and in keeping with the obligations of my office, the Department of Homeland Security will begin an orderly transition and wind-down of DACA, one that provides minimum disruption.

 

While new applications for work permits will not be accepted, all existing work permits will be honored until their date of expiration up to two full years from today. Furthermore, applications already in the pipeline will be processed, as will renewal applications for those facing near-term expiration. This is a gradual process, not a sudden phase out. Permits will not begin to expire for another six months, and will remain active for up to 24 months. Thus, in effect, I am not going to just cut DACA off, but rather provide a window of opportunity for Congress to finally act.

 

Our enforcement priorities remain unchanged. We are focused on criminals, security threats, recent border-crossers, visa overstays, and repeat violators. I have advised the Department of Homeland Security that DACA recipients are not enforcement priorities unless they are criminals, are involved in criminal activity, or are members of a gang.

 

The decades-long failure of Washington, D.C. to enforce federal immigration law has had both predictable and tragic consequences: lower wages and higher unemployment for American workers, substantial burdens on local schools and hospitals, the illicit entry of dangerous drugs and criminal cartels, and many billions of dollars a year in costs paid for by U.S. taxpayers. Yet few in Washington expressed any compassion for the millions of Americans victimized by this unfair system. Before we ask what is fair to illegal immigrants, we must also ask what is fair to American families, students, taxpayers, and job seekers.

 

Congress now has the opportunity to advance responsible immigration reform that puts American jobs and American security first. We are facing the symptom of a larger problem, illegal immigration, along with the many other chronic immigration problems Washington has left unsolved.

 

We must reform our green card system, which now favors low-skilled immigration and puts immense strain on U.S. taxpayers. We must base future immigration on merit we want those coming into the country to be able to support themselves financially, to contribute to our economy, and to love our country and the values it stands for. Under a merit-based system, citizens will enjoy higher employment, rising wages, and a stronger middle class. Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue have introduced the RAISE Act, which would establish this merit-based system and produce lasting gains for the American People.

 

I look forward to working with Republicans and Democrats in Congress to finally address all of these issues in a manner that puts the hardworking citizens of our country first.

 

As Ive said before, we will resolve the DACA issue with heart and compassion but through the lawful Democratic process while at the same time ensuring that any immigration reform we adopt provides enduring benefits for the American citizens we were elected to serve. We must also have heart and compassion for unemployed, struggling, and forgotten Americans.

 

Above all else, we must remember that young Americans have dreams too. Being in government means setting priorities. Our first and highest priority in advancing immigration reform must be to improve jobs, wages and security for American workers and their families.

 

It is now time for Congress to act"

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Trump nailed it!

 

WHITE HOUSE "As President, my highest duty is to defend the American people and the Constitution of the United States of America. At the same time, I do not favor punishing children, most of whom are now adults, for the actions of their parents. But we must also recognize that we are nation of opportunity because we are a nation of laws.

 

The legislative branch, not the executive branch, writes these laws this is the bedrock of our Constitutional system, which I took a solemn oath to preserve, protect, and defend.

 

In June of 2012, President Obama bypassed Congress to give work permits, social security numbers, and federal benefits to approximately 800,000 illegal immigrants currently between the ages of 15 and 36. The typical recipients of this executive amnesty, known as DACA, are in their twenties. Legislation offering these same benefits had been introduced in Congress on numerous occasions and rejected each time.

 

 

In referencing the idea of creating new immigration rules unilaterally, President Obama admitted that I cant just do these things by myself and yet that is exactly what he did, making an end-run around Congress and violating the core tenets that sustain our Republic.

 

Officials from 10 States are suing over the program, requiring my Administration to make a decision regarding its legality. The Attorney General of the United States, the Attorneys General of many states, and virtually all other top legal experts have advised that the program is unlawful and unconstitutional and cannot be successfully defended in court.

 

There can be no path to principled immigration reform if the executive branch is able to rewrite or nullify federal laws at will.

 

The temporary implementation of DACA by the Obama Administration, after Congress repeatedly rejected this amnesty-first approach, also helped spur a humanitarian crisis the massive surge of unaccompanied minors from Central America including, in some cases, young people who would become members of violent gangs throughout our country, such as MS-13.

 

Only by the reliable enforcement of immigration law can we produce safe communities, a robust middle class, and economic fairness for all Americans.

 

Therefore, in the best interests of our country, and in keeping with the obligations of my office, the Department of Homeland Security will begin an orderly transition and wind-down of DACA, one that provides minimum disruption.

 

While new applications for work permits will not be accepted, all existing work permits will be honored until their date of expiration up to two full years from today. Furthermore, applications already in the pipeline will be processed, as will renewal applications for those facing near-term expiration. This is a gradual process, not a sudden phase out. Permits will not begin to expire for another six months, and will remain active for up to 24 months. Thus, in effect, I am not going to just cut DACA off, but rather provide a window of opportunity for Congress to finally act.

 

Our enforcement priorities remain unchanged. We are focused on criminals, security threats, recent border-crossers, visa overstays, and repeat violators. I have advised the Department of Homeland Security that DACA recipients are not enforcement priorities unless they are criminals, are involved in criminal activity, or are members of a gang.

 

The decades-long failure of Washington, D.C. to enforce federal immigration law has had both predictable and tragic consequences: lower wages and higher unemployment for American workers, substantial burdens on local schools and hospitals, the illicit entry of dangerous drugs and criminal cartels, and many billions of dollars a year in costs paid for by U.S. taxpayers. Yet few in Washington expressed any compassion for the millions of Americans victimized by this unfair system. Before we ask what is fair to illegal immigrants, we must also ask what is fair to American families, students, taxpayers, and job seekers.

 

Congress now has the opportunity to advance responsible immigration reform that puts American jobs and American security first. We are facing the symptom of a larger problem, illegal immigration, along with the many other chronic immigration problems Washington has left unsolved.

 

We must reform our green card system, which now favors low-skilled immigration and puts immense strain on U.S. taxpayers. We must base future immigration on merit we want those coming into the country to be able to support themselves financially, to contribute to our economy, and to love our country and the values it stands for. Under a merit-based system, citizens will enjoy higher employment, rising wages, and a stronger middle class. Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue have introduced the RAISE Act, which would establish this merit-based system and produce lasting gains for the American People.

 

I look forward to working with Republicans and Democrats in Congress to finally address all of these issues in a manner that puts the hardworking citizens of our country first.

 

As Ive said before, we will resolve the DACA issue with heart and compassion but through the lawful Democratic process while at the same time ensuring that any immigration reform we adopt provides enduring benefits for the American citizens we were elected to serve. We must also have heart and compassion for unemployed, struggling, and forgotten Americans.

 

Above all else, we must remember that young Americans have dreams too. Being in government means setting priorities. Our first and highest priority in advancing immigration reform must be to improve jobs, wages and security for American workers and their families.

 

It is now time for Congress to act"

 

Yup. MAGA!!

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Nailed it?

The people this effects are not drug dealers or those supposedly costing billions (a bogus number anyway)

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MAGA-ing like a boss. Another one of Obamas bright ideas wiped away in an instant. Hey, he still has the failing Obamacare and the Iranian deal.

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Nailed it?

The people this effects are not drug dealers or those supposedly costing billions (a bogus number anyway)

who's job is it to write the law's ? Joeyknowitall....

I'd call you stupid but that's an embarrassment to stupid people.

 

You're just a liberal hack, go away. Go chaperone.

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Either you guys are too stupid to realize that you cannot change the other person's opinion or you are smart enough to be aware that you cannot change the other person's opinion but your time is so worthless that you can spend all day arguing anyways.

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Either you guys are too stupid to realize that you cannot change the other person's opinion or you are smart enough to be aware that you cannot change the other person's opinion but your time is so worthless that you can spend all day arguing anyways.

Says the guy who was posting here as he was evacuating his home.

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Either you guys are too stupid to realize that you cannot change the other person's opinion or you are smart enough to be aware that you cannot change the other person's opinion but your time is so worthless that you can spend all day arguing anyways.

nice going, you just changed my mind. :mad:

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who's job is it to write the law's ? Joeyknowitall....

I'd call you stupid but that's an embarrassment to stupid people.

 

You're just a liberal hack, go away. Go chaperone.

Do you believe this "law" was good or bad for the country?

We can agree this should be handled by congress (it was attempted several times with the right obstructing the fock out of it).

 

Faceit...Trump ended this and those cheering it are doing so because it was Obama.

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MAGA-ing like a boss. Another one of Obamas bright ideas wiped away in an instant. Hey, he still has the failing Obamacare and the Iranian deal.

yep, it's going to take a lot to undo the destruction Barry caused, but MAGA man is up to the task.

:first:

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Either you guys are too stupid to realize that you cannot change the other person's opinion or you are smart enough to be aware that you cannot change the other person's opinion but your time is so worthless that you can spend all day arguing anyways.

I can only try to educate...you're right...changing the opinions of the ignorant requires them to want to ever learn.

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yep, it's going to take a lot to undo the destruction Barry caused, but MAGA man is up to the task.

:first:

What destruction did DACA cause?

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I can only try to educate...you're right...changing the opinions of the ignorant requires them to want to ever learn.

Holy shite

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I never claimed just disagreeing with me makes someone stupid.

 

Cheering this on though does.

The ignorance displayed by those supporting this move is proving me right.

 

Your childish crap is very predictable as is your ignorance and inability to form an intelligent thought or argument.

 

 

The FOCK you didn't: "Utter stupidity...and guarantee those cheering this on don't even understand the damn thing"

 

So what part of this quote from you makes my statement false? And then you double down on your condescension with " I never claimed just disagreeing with me makes someone stupid. Cheering this on though does". Your stance in the matter says it all. Then you say I'm ignorant and am unable to form an intelligent thought or argument.... BECAUSE I HAVE DISAGREED WITH YOU. Every focking thread you do this. Grow up.

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What destruction did DACA cause?

the rule of law and the circumvention of our constitution by a potus who had sworn to uphold both.

But he was your guy, so that's cool.

 

Because you're a hack.

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the rule of law and the circumvention of our constitution by a potus who had sworn to uphold both.

But he was your guy, so that's cool.

 

Because you're a hack.

 

Theft of tax dollars to pay for criminals.

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Either you guys are too stupid to realize that you cannot change the other person's opinion or you are smart enough to be aware that you cannot change the other person's opinion but your time is so worthless that you can spend all day arguing anyways.

This guy gets it. Watch the expected pack of focking losers lash out.

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The FOCK you didn't: "Utter stupidity...and guarantee those cheering this on don't even understand the damn thing"

 

So what part of this quote from you makes my statement false? And then you double down on your condescension with " I never claimed just disagreeing with me makes someone stupid. Cheering this on though does". Your stance in the matter says it all. Then you say I'm ignorant and am unable to form an intelligent thought or argument.... BECAUSE I HAVE DISAGREED WITH YOU. Every focking thread you do this. Grow up.

JFC you are an absolute moron.

No...I say yiu are ignorant because I don't believe you and others the issue. I base that on the posts in this thread.

I base your inability to form an intelligent thought or argument on your history here.

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Oh look, it's the same 5-6 tools and ShoNuff having their usual circle jerk. LOSERS! Sad!

This guy gets it too :lol:

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the rule of law and the circumvention of our constitution by a potus who had sworn to uphold both.

But he was your guy, so that's cool.

 

Because you're a hack.

Not really any destruction there.

And the rule of law...hard to make that claim a week after pardoning Sheriff Joe.

I agree Obama should have done this through congress.

I disagree this law cause any destruction at all and has shown to be a good program.

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Theft of tax dollars to pay for criminals.

Posts like this are why I say those cheering this are ignorant.

 

What criminals?

What theft of tax dollars for this program?

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Nailed it?

The people this effects are not drug dealers or those supposedly costing billions (a bogus number anyway)

 

Most interesting is that the CIS report includes a total net cost estimate to the federal government for illegal immigrants of just under $10.4 billion for the year, after accounting for the taxes these immigrants paid.

 

 

Even using your liberal "fact check" tells us it is billions. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/

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This will get passed into law. It won't matter. The US government isn't going to deport kids and young adults who did nothing wrong. No way republicans/democrats don't pass a very similar law. Neither party is dying on this hill.

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This will get passed into law. It won't matter. The US government isn't going to deport kids and young adults who did nothing wrong. No way republicans/democrats don't pass a very similar law. Neither party is dying on this hill.

If hope so...but haven't seen any competence out of this group in congress.

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:lol: Andre ?

 

You can't make this clown up.

joneo...I know...hard to make up someone dumber than you. He posted irrelevant garbage to this program.

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If hope so...but haven't seen any competence out of this group in congress.

Not much, but this should be simple.

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