SUXBNME 1,328 Posted May 6, 2016 President Obama’s statements on global warming are “dead wrong,” said Nobel laureate Ivar Giaever, who rejected the president's claims that man-made global warming is causing climate change. “I think Obama is a clever person, but he gets bad advice. Global warming is all wet,” Giaever said in a speech entitled he gave on July 1 to scientists from 90 countries attending the 65th annual Nobel Laureate Meeting in Lindau, Germany. Giaever, who was born in Norway and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 1964, was one of three recipients of the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1973. Although he endorsed Obama in 2008 along with more than 70 other Nobel-winning scientists, Giaever is now criticizing the president’s statements on climate change -- particularly his 2015 State of the Union remark that “no challenge poses a greater threat to future generations than climate change.” "The biggest problem Obama faces is climate change? How can he say that?" Giaever asked. "I say this to Obama: 'Excuse me, Mr. President, but you're wrong.' He is dead wrong... "So global warming really starts with these two people: Al Gore and [former United Nations climate head Rajendra] Pachauri," Giaever continued. "And what they did - they made this curve popular...And what did this curve measure? Well, this curve measures what is the average temperature for the world for a whole year...For one year. So there's an average temperature for the whole Earth for one year and that measures in a fraction of a degree. "So what does that mean? I think probably nothing. Let me talk about that again: From 1880 to 2015, the temperature has increased from 288 K [degrees Kelvin] to 288.8 K - 0.3 percent. I think the temperature has been amazingly stable. "If I take where I live in Albany, New York, there is roughly an 80 K difference between summer and winter at some time, so would you think that a 0.8 degree average on the Earth makes any difference to the climate in Albany? Is that sensible to you?... "I would say that global warming basically is a non-problem. Just leave it alone, it will take care of itself,” he added. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/kathleen-brown/nobel-prize-winning-physicist-obama-dead-wrong-global-warming-0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,027 Posted May 6, 2016 We often see scientists from non-climate fields who believe they have sufficient expertise to understand climate science despite having done minimal research on the subject; William Happer, Fritz Vahrenholt, and Bob Carter, for example. As he admits in his own words, Nobel Prize winning physicist Ivar Giaever fits this mould perfectly: "I am not really terribly interested in global warming. Like most physicists I don't think much about it. But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it. And I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned. And I'm going to try to explain to you why that was the case." That quote comes from a presentation Giaever gave to the 62nd Meeting of Nobel Laureates in 2012, for some unknown reason on the subject of climate change. As Giaever notes at the beginning of his talk, he has become more famous for his contrarian views on global warming than for his Nobel Prize, which have made him something of a darling to the climate contrarian movement and climate denial enablers. In this post we will examine the claims made by Giaever in his talk, and show that his contrarian climate opinions come from a position of extreme ignorance on the subject, as Giaever admits. Giaever personifies the classic stereotype of the physicist who thinks he understands all scientific fields of study: Skeptical Science Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 6, 2016 Skeptical Science That'll leave a mark! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,027 Posted May 6, 2016 That'll leave a mark! Nah, Sux is the Wolverine of the geek club, nothing ever leaves a mark! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted May 6, 2016 Science doesn’t have the answers. It guesses, tests, and guesses again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 6, 2016 Science doesn’t have the answers. It guesses, tests, and guesses again. See my sig. It's talking about you. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,328 Posted May 6, 2016 See my sig. It's talking about you. HTH See my sig. It's talking about you. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,328 Posted May 6, 2016 Nah, Sux is the Wolverine of the geek club, nothing ever leaves a mark! I believe my link has more factual base than your link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted May 7, 2016 I believe my link has more factual base than your link. It does indeed, Plus, we know this is a hoax because Obama claims it is real and we all know that man is incapable of telling the truth. This is all cyclical and science has proved it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 7, 2016 What does the mechanical engineer Bill Nye think on the subject ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted May 7, 2016 See my sig. It's talking about you. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted May 7, 2016 None of us are experts. I defer to the experts. They say its real and caused by man. Ill go with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,328 Posted May 7, 2016 None of us are experts. I defer to the experts. They say its real and caused by man. Ill go with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,328 Posted May 7, 2016 What does the mechanical engineer Bill Nye think on the subject ? He said, verbatim: . Well...in the plumber's case...he throws out the words fake outrage more than almost anyone. So its quite fitting when it gets applied to his crazy rants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 7, 2016 He said, verbatim: . I myself blame filthy cat feces and the queers that own the cats and gather the feces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 7, 2016 What does the mechanical engineer Bill Nye think on the subject ? Always thought Nye was ok, then he did dancing with the stars. Then I stopped listening to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted May 7, 2016 He said, verbatim: . I'm Bill Nye? Awesome!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted May 8, 2016 What does the mechanical engineer Bill Nye think on the subject ? HAHA. The man that identifies as a scientist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Elistan 106 Posted May 8, 2016 Meanwhile in Canada... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 8, 2016 Meanwhile in Canada...meanwhile in new England.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites