Anyone else think McKinnon can steal the job this weekend?

[njpunk24 0]

 

That ###### ######. Why couldn't he have said this before WW pickups?

 

Hopefully Zimmer is 'just saying that' in a feeble attempt to throw off the Bills. Otherwise, he's an idiot...

[bwillingham 0]

Would y'all drop Forsett for McKinnon?

 

Or would you drop Andre Williams for McKinnon?

 

My RBs are terrible but in our league we can start one RB and 4 WRs. Thankfully my WRs are keeping me afloat.

[DaBeerz 88]

Would y'all drop Forsett for McKinnon?

 

Or would you drop Andre Williams for McKinnon?

 

My RBs are terrible but in our league we can start one RB and 4 WRs. Thankfully my WRs are keeping me afloat.

 

F NO DUDE!

 

Keep Forsett for sure. Mack is being picked up based on speculative future performance. Forsett is putting up solid numbers now, he's a hold for sure.

 

I would consider dropping Williams, as he has a bye in a week then he'll be back to backup status behind Jennings.

[The Football Guru 211]

It crossed my mind on Monday that Minnesota might have decided to start McKinnon due to its fear of Detroit's front four (specifically Suh and Fairley w/o dominant run-blocking G Brandon Fusco). It turns out that hunch might (and I emphasize might) have been correct. And no, I don't read Christopher Harris...the link below supporting my hunch took me there.

 

http://espn.go.com/fantasy/football/story/_/page/freeagents141014/jerick-mckinnon-odell-beckham-mohamed-sanu-top-options

 

"I've heard speculation that the Vikings made this switch because they were concerned about the Detroit Lions' front four, and they'll go right back to Asiata next week."

 

 

I don't consider myself to be too emotionally tied to one guy or the other, but I thought I had better put this out there for those of you that are/were.

[tigeru 65]

I'm tied to both of them. Also I'm tired of both of them.

[The Football Guru 211]

I'm tied to both of them. Also I'm tired of both of them.

I hear ya.

 

If they are already looking ahead a bit to 2015, then I think the Vikings owe it to themselves to leave Asiata as the lead back in order to make Bridgewater feel as safe as possible and aid him with his learning curve. The last thing MIN needs is to get Bridgewater hurt. The Vikings should be able to evaluate what they have in McKinnon with the remaining snaps and consider themselves fortunate they are getting a head start of seeing what he is made of now, which is probably not what they had in mind for him this year when they drafted him.

 

Then again, I know my comments here won't go over well because they aren't going not support the more athletic guy who people believe could take them to their fantasy titles this year.

[TennisMenace 156]

This makes no sense. Go to McKinnon against the better defensive team because you don't think the other guy is good enough, and then after that game, you put the other guy back in against inferior teams because he might be decent against them.

 

Shaking my head.

 

Who comes up with this stuff?

[jpcdds 21]

This makes no sense. Go to McKinnon against the better defensive team because you don't think the other guy is good enough, and then after that game, you put the other guy back in against inferior teams because he might be decent against them.

 

Shaking my head.

 

Who comes up with this stuff?

Exactly... Would think it would be the other way around if they indeed are trying to "protect" Teddy as the previous poster suggests.

 

McKinnon was actually really good in pass protection... Asiata was the cause of one of Teddy's int's against Detroit. Now they face the number one run defense in Buffalo... The theory Would suggest that McKinnon should start again?!? But now back to Asiata????

 

I think zimmer is playing games and to be honest I really don't think it matters who starts. Both will get touches... And McKinnon is the better back even this early on in his transition to RB in the NFL. Hell he looks better than most guys who played that position for years...

[PackYourNut 47]

Ignore them both for one more week, then start McKinnon with confidence.

 

Anyone suggesting that they put in McKinnon because they were fearful of Detroit's pass rush and in the same breathe saying that he is worse in pass protection is focking idiot!

[Skinny_Bastard 154]

Chances of Asiata starting???

 

I would laugh my ass if if that happens.

 

"In Zimmer’s defense, McKinnon did struggle in pass protection against the Lions, and the Vikings cannot have Teddy Bridgewater getting sacked eight times a game. Asiata can protect the quarterback better than McKinnon, and has made several impact plays in the passing game this season. It makes some sense for the Vikings to get Asiata more than the eight snaps he saw on passing downs last week."

[Flgatorguy87 160]

So Asiata owners all want the thread to end when it looks like Mack is starting. .. Then Asiata starts to show himself back into the picture and the owners are back.

 

I'm out of this now. Traded him away.

[wizbang 10]

Chances of Asiata starting???

 

I would laugh my ass if if that happens.

 

"In Zimmer’s defense, McKinnon did struggle in pass protection against the Lions, and the Vikings cannot have Teddy Bridgewater getting sacked eight times a game. Asiata can protect the quarterback better than McKinnon, and has made several impact plays in the passing game this season. It makes some sense for the Vikings to get Asiata more than the eight snaps he saw on passing downs last week."

 

As an Asiata owner, I'm going to chalk this up to coach speak. YPC don't lie. Will Asiata get more than 3 touches? Sure. Will McKinnon still be the primary. Probably. Would I start either this week? No.

[p00h 85]

it's wait and see. THis is a putrid offense. THe O line is decent, but green rookie qb, not much on the outside, etc. Not a whole lot to see here. Even if one guy gets 15-20 touches a game, it'll amount to about 50-70 yards a game. Maybe a td every 3 games. That's not really startable material in even 10 team leagues. Unless one of these guys comes down with 5 catches a game, not viable in PPR either. Talking heads will talk, but this is more or less a non story. And even more so if they come ven close to 50/50. Hell even at 70/30 it's a waste of time. I know there's desperation in the RB world but these are definitely not the droids you're looking for!

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

it's wait and see. THis is a putrid offense. THe O line is decent, but green rookie qb, not much on the outside, etc. Not a whole lot to see here. Even if one guy gets 15-20 touches a game, it'll amount to about 50-70 yards a game. Maybe a td every 3 games. That's not really startable material in even 10 team leagues. Unless one of these guys comes down with 5 catches a game, not viable in PPR either. Talking heads will talk, but this is more or less a non story. And even more so if they come ven close to 50/50. Hell even at 70/30 it's a waste of time. I know there's desperation in the RB world but these are definitely not the droids you're looking for!

 

I'm actually feeling pretty good about McKinnon so far, his floor has been set.

 

Talk about putrid, McKinnon played with Ponder who was even worse than usual - as a backup - and he turned in around 50 yards on 10 touches. Next game TB was awful, the Vikes were lucky to get 3 points, and McKinnon turns 17 touches into 82 yards. So right now he's hitting 5 yards a pop on a team that has mustered 13 points of offense.

 

I know these are really mediocre numbers, but if the Vikes do manage to turn TB into something this year McKinnon will be putting up good numbers. As a RB2 100 total yards and a TD is awesome. I don't know if he will get there but he's close. If Bridgewater just plays somewhat better and reaches "decent" he can get there.

[p00h 85]

 

I'm actually feeling pretty good about McKinnon so far, his floor has been set.

 

Talk about putrid, McKinnon played with Ponder who was even worse than usual - as a backup - and he turned in around 50 yards on 10 touches. Next game TB was awful, the Vikes were lucky to get 3 points, and McKinnon turns 17 touches into 82 yards. So right now he's hitting 5 yards a pop on a team that has mustered 13 points of offense.

 

I know these are really mediocre numbers, but if the Vikes do manage to turn TB into something this year McKinnon will be putting up good numbers. As a RB2 100 total yards and a TD is awesome. I don't know if he will get there but he's close. If Bridgewater just plays somewhat better and reaches "decent" he can get there.

 

 

100 total yards and TD a game likely makes you the top FF rb at the end of the year...he's not going to get that. Like I said, it's a wait and see. If he explodes onto the scene, it wouldnt' be the first time a rook took the league by storm, so not saying it's impossible, but fairly improable. They're just not that good on O. The minute the run game starts going, teams will stack the box. Who's gonna release that pressure, coraderell?!? 56 year old greg jennings?!? Kyle Rudolpy?!? He's done. The O is horrible. Like I said, wait and see, wouldn't write off either backs yet, but if it does end up a split, they're both absolutely useless on a team that is lucky to throw 2 tds up a game...

[DaBeerz 88]

I think the rampant over speculation on the future performance of both of these RB is insane. They're a weak side RB3 flex play no matter which one you pick. I'm only picking McKinnon up as injury-insurance. Reportedly MIN have one of the worst O-lines in the NFL (other than maybe the Giants pass blocking).

[jpcdds 21]

This is exactly what Zimmer said:

 

 

 

"We would like to get Asiata a lot more touches than probably what he got last week, and maybe McKinnon a few less," Zimmer said. "Asiata, against Atlanta, he played very, very well. He's a very dependable guy; he had that fumble against Green Bay. I think we're moving toward (a rhythm between the two) a little bit better."

 

He doesn't say we want to get Asiata a lot more and McKinnon a lot less. He basically says they plan on running a lot more than the 14 times they did last week putting more pressure on their rookie qb to make plays. I imagine we may see 25- 30 rushing attempts with McKinnon getting 14-17 and Asiata getting 10-15.

[DaBeerz 88]

This is exactly what Zimmer said:

 

 

 

"We would like to get Asiata a lot more touches than probably what he got last week, and maybe McKinnon a few less," Zimmer said. "Asiata, against Atlanta, he played very, very well. He's a very dependable guy; he had that fumble against Green Bay. I think we're moving toward (a rhythm between the two) a little bit better."

 

He doesn't say we want to get Asiata a lot more and McKinnon a lot less. He basically says they plan on running a lot more than the 14 times they did last week putting more pressure on their rookie qb to make plays. I imagine we may see 25- 30 rushing attempts with McKinnon getting 14-17 and Asiata getting 10-15.

 

That bastard. F Asiata, Make Jerick your guy. I want 1200 yards and 10 TD's by the end of the season or I will forever lament this WW pickup.

[Phil Simms 11 127]

Dropped Asiata for Crowell. Just think it's a better timeshare to invest in at this point.

[jrbdmb 28]

 

Uh, no. My opponent has Asiata, and he's where he belongs, on his bench.

 

I had Asiata and I dropped him for Knile Davis weeks ago.

 

Take away a 3TD 70 yard game and Asiata's numbers are quite underwhelming. McKinnon's even less so. They're not even close to starting RB for most teams, even in a 12 team league.

 

Take away Peyton's 15 TDs so far this year and he is a disappointing fantasy QB.

[Skinny_Bastard 154]

McKinnon has averaged 3.4 and 3.6 yards per carry the past 2 games.

Let's see what happens this weekend. The Vikes have a butter schedule coming up.

[tigeru 65]

I didn't play Ivory last night so McKinnons thread here is pushing me to consider him soon. Forsett and Oliver are about doesn't and Asiatas gimpy. I hate flexing wr.

[Bobbyn2022 53]

I traded Hunter for Mack. I'm desperate at RB I literally have Helu,Randle and Blue as my backups ya can't get any uglier. Mathews is on my IR so I hope to god Mckinnion is a RB3 for me.

[DaBeerz 88]

 

Take away Peyton's 15 TDs so far this year and he is a disappointing fantasy QB.

 

Peyton has had more than just 1 good game this year, that's the point.

[TheUsualSuspect 207]

Minnesota RBs that are not AP, are interesting to talk about and have incredible FF value.

[Challenger 72]

NFL is a QB league, any rb that can block will be on the field more. Even the running teams like SF and Seattle treat their rbs like crap.

 

Someone said, they should see what they have in McKinnon, they don't care what they have in rb. Look at Antone Smith in Atlanta, he scores every time he touches the ball. Yet he has been rotten as backup's backup role for 3 years.

 

Their number one concern is and will be Teddy and more Teddy.

[jrbdmb 28]

Week 7 -

 

McKinnon 19 runs for 103 yards (5.4 yds avg). 2 catches for -2 yards.

Asiata 6 touches for 24 yards (4,0 yds avg). 1 catch for 13 yards.

 

I think the starting RB job is officially stolen.

[tanatastic 2,061]

I was a big Asiata supporter but Mckinnon has simply stolen this job just like some in this thread thought he wouldnt do, including myself.

[ThatDude 9]

I'll be dropping Asiata this week. At least I got a few weeks of production

[dehaven123 31]

But he can't pass block! How did this happen? :sarcasm:

[Flgatorguy87 160]

People, show up and eat your crow, or rather use this as an example of why it's OK to have differing opinions but asinine to pretend like your opinion is fact.

[PackYourNut 47]

People, show up and eat your crow, or rather use this as an example of why it's OK to have differing opinions but asinine to pretend like your opinion is fact.

 

Herein lies the problem... Some people had actual opinions based on research and knowledge, others just pumped the players on their own team because that served their purpose!

 

Since week 8 is here and Mckinnon is now the unquestioned lead back, I guess this thread can die!

 

:wave:

[Flgatorguy87 160]

 

Herein lies the problem... Some people had actual opinions based on research and knowledge, others just pumped the players on their own team because that served their purpose!

 

Since week 8 is here and Mckinnon is now the unquestioned lead back, I guess this thread can die!

 

:wave:

[vgperu 4]

Thank You Flatorguy87......RIP to this question !

[jrbdmb 28]

Yup, time to get back to the

 

Whoever drafted Jimmy Graham is going to get burned

 

thread.

[sperri40 12]

People, show up and eat your crow, or rather use this as an example of why it's OK to have differing opinions but asinine to pretend like your opinion is fact.

 

Amazing...the crap that was spewed. I honestly think some of these guys had Asiata jerseys on order. Wow.

[AintNoStoppinMeNow 68]

McKinnon just rushed for 100 yards on the great Bills Run D who haven't allowed any back to run for more than 70 rushing yards on them all season. If it wasn't already, the job is his.

[Antiramie 50]

Does Asiata have any value Week 8 against the Bucs? I know he's not getting many touches now, but any chance his workload increases a little or he becomes serviceable against that awful defense?

 

It's sad the options I'm considering over Martin right now...

[Bobbyn2022 53]

Played well @buff glad I started him won by 3

[DontPushMe 5]

Asiata is as valuable as any other slow goal line back. Only worth starting if he scores. I'd cut him if I owned him