After reading all 9 pages, a few thoughts and opinions:
- The far Left needs to realize that 'society' only functions when we all agree to operate within a set of social parameters that accommodate the vast majority. When you try to accommodate the needs of the .001% by making ureasonable demands on the 99.999%, there will be justified pushback. For example, if we have to replace common pronouns with individualized ones for people that don't think they fall squarely into the 'him' or 'her' categories, then communication among the 99.999% becomes labored. This, to me, is unreasonable.
- The far Right needs to have more emapthy for those that live in the margins through no choice of their own. This could be a single mother on food stamps or welfare trying to provide for her children, or a trans-gendered adolescent that just wants to not feel threatened or uncomfortable every time they leave their house (and many times at home as well). Don't use someone's current situation as an indictment of their character.
- We all need to get away from our tribal inclinations if we want to 'succeed' and progress as a species. Trump supporters feel the need to defend to the death every move by him and the GOP. Dems the same on their end. We are all individuals with unique stories and opinions. Try not to attribute one person's actions to an entire group and make claims about that group based on that one soundbite.
- Arguing over news clips and such is a fun timewaster, but if you want to bicker about one point - STAY ON THAT POINT. I read so many times in this thread where someone posts an outrage - another challeneges it, and when one person starts to get the upper hand, it result in either 1) A change in topic to a new outrage, or 2) The old 'yeah, well YOUR GUYS DO IT TOO!' defense. If you agree you were maybe misinformed on something and have a different opinon based on new evidence, that goes a long way towards being taken seriously in future altercations, and (GASP) might lead to some common ground.
- On the race thing (deep breath), I think it comes down to what the majority has blessed as 'acceptable American culture', which should be assimilated to. Apart from the really racist KKK types, I think (and I could be wrong of course), that when non-whites speak like newscasters, dress in Gap and drive Sentras, work as a Starbucks baristas and have a few Coors with friends on the weekends... no one gets all
. It's when you introduce language variations, dress variations, etc that doesn't fit in the box that is considered 'acceptable', everyone gets bent out of shape. And the issue / question is... is that a difference in culture that should be accepted as just another variation of 'American'? Or is it looked down on as some kind of inferiority? I personally struggle with this myself to be honest. I consider myself to be 100% not racist, because I like black people that talk like I do - but I make a conscious effort to think the same way for everyone I meet or see. It's not easy. This also applies to 'redneck' culture. I need to work on that.
- Peenie went a threw a little water on the fire addressing some of the above - well done to her and those that responded in kind.
- I get that some of you wanted a safe space to libtard bash, but that's not how public forums work.
TL/DR: fock off