NorthernVike 2,080 Posted February 14, 2018 If I were super rich and famous, you can bet your ass that I'd be banging hookers. I bet most guys would be dropping cash for ass. That's the whole point of being rich and famous. You'd absolutely want to use pros. Common street ho's would be suing you left and right trying to get rich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,541 Posted February 14, 2018 All part of the Christian values this country needs to get back to 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted February 14, 2018 All part of the Christian values this country needs to get back to I think that's what irks me a little about this. I don't care that Trump banged a porn star, any more than I cared that Clinton banged Lewinsky. I just don't like the whole fake Christian thing. He's probably the least religious person to ever be president. As an atheist, I'd prefer he embraced it, instead of pandering to the religious right. Pretending he cares about abortions, etc. etc. I do understand that's all part of the game though. Not going to win the GOP without pandering to the religious right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted February 14, 2018 I think that's what irks me a little about this. I don't care that Trump banged a porn star, any more than I cared that Clinton banged Lewinsky. I just don't like the whole fake Christian thing. He's probably the least religious person to ever be president. As an atheist, I'd prefer he embraced it, instead of pandering to the religious right. Pretending he cares about abortions, etc. etc. I do understand that's all part of the game though. Not going to win the GOP without pandering to the religious right. It's obvious that you don't understand how Christianity works, nevermind what it actually is. People sin - regularly - even after becoming Christian. Becoming Christian is not an alteration to human nature. It is a recognition of who has power over it -and it isn't Man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 459 Posted February 14, 2018 Once you go orange... I can't think of anything that rhymes with orange. Silly: MOARange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted February 14, 2018 who cares? if he focked a pron star, and if he paid her off, then the only reason he paid her off was because he was running for office and/or she indicated she would go to the press or write a tell all book for her personal gain. What does it have to do with any political issues he needs to address as potus? oh, nothing? okay then. don't we have past presidents who cheated while in office? don't we have past presidents who fathered many slave babies? JFK was praised for his adultery. Bill Clinton was worshiped for shoving a cigar inside a barely legal intern and jizzing all over her face. (What he did would be classified as rape in 2018) The only reason the press cares about Stormy is because their Russian collusion conspiracy fell apart and we learned the Dems were actually the ones colluding with Russia. Anytime a liberal pretends to care about family values or women's rights all you can do is laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted February 14, 2018 The best part of this is that Trump's lawyer claims that he paid Daniels the $130k out of his own pocket. So, he paid for Trump to bang this chick out of the goodness of his own heart. Extremely believable. Pretty sure the payment was for her silence after the fact. Or is the lawyer saying that he wired Stormy $130k the night they banged? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted February 14, 2018 Never mind the payments to an LLC in the same amount and expenditures from that same LLC for the amount in question. The lawyer was just being kind. Also it is possible its still a campaign contribution and not reported as such. A minor violation of course anyway. lol Aren't you the dumb ass they claimed Hillary paying Perkins Coie who paid Fusion GPS who paid Steele who paid Russia was no indication that Hillary paid Russia? And broke FEC laws in the process. You can't have it both ways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted February 14, 2018 Pretty sure the payment was for her silence after the fact. Or is the lawyer saying that he wired Stormy $130k the night they banged? Silence about what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 14, 2018 lol Aren't you the dumb ass they claimed Hillary paying Perkins Coie who paid Fusion GPS who paid Steele who paid Russia was no indication that Hillary paid Russia? And broke FEC laws in the process. You can't have it both ways. Shut up troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted February 14, 2018 JFK was praised for his adultery. Bill Clinton was worshiped for shoving a cigar inside a barely legal intern and jizzing all over her face. (What he did would be classified as rape in 2018) The only reason the press cares about Stormy is because their Russian collusion conspiracy fell apart and we learned the Dems were actually the ones colluding with Russia. Anytime a liberal pretends to care about family values or women's rights all you can do is laugh. I think the difference is the GOP preaches Christian values and the DEMS do not. That's why it's always major news when a REP is an adulterer, homo, etc. Liberals are expected to be those things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 14, 2018 I think the difference is the GOP preaches Christian values and the DEMS do not. That's why it's always major news when a REP is an adulterer, homo, etc. Liberals are expected to be those things. Dems preach Democratic process yet rig elections. Dems preach tolerance but lash out violently when a differing opinion is brought up. Dems preach gun control yet politicians and celebrities have numerous armed bodyguards. Etc, etc, etc.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted February 14, 2018 Dems preach Democratic process yet rig elections. Dems preach tolerance but lash out violently when a differing opinion is brought up. Dems preach gun control yet politicians and celebrities have numerous armed bodyguards. Etc, etc, etc.... Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted February 14, 2018 Bill Clinton was worshiped for shoving a cigar inside a barely legal intern and jizzing all over her face. (What he did would be classified as rape in 2018) Anytime a liberal pretends to care about family values or women's rights all you can do is laugh. I've discussed this technique before. Usually employed by televangelist. That, and scam artist. You start of by rushing through a statement that nobody has time to think about and you're willing and gullible audience just nods her head and says Aha, and then you roll from there. " well, everyone knows that water is radioactive." "Ahum" " and do you notice how all of these so-called Charities are always passing out free water to tragedies where people don't have any options?"..... Does anybody remember Clinton being praised for Monica Lewinsky? The Daily Show made their bones on that Scandal. It basically entrenched cable news networks to where they are today. And oh by the way, the guy got impeached. But blather on troll... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 14, 2018 Eh Republicans / conservatives have been defined by 1. Family values, 2. deficit control, 3. national security, and 4. tax cuts. Today it's just tax cuts. But then the conservatives have either chosen to follow Trump & his nationalism or abandoned the party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted February 14, 2018 Well rabbit, Newt Gingrich openly admitted to cheating on his wife while he was pursuing monicagate. But he wrapped himself in Family Values long enough to achieve his political goals. Trump has had three wives God knows how many Affairs and his own lawyer admits that he a hooker. But he swears he is the biggest friend to religion ever. And damned if televangelist don't love the guy because he's giving them tax breaks. Forget the grab them by the incident or the the hooker incident or or or But yeah, Democrats got a lock on hypocrisy. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,625 Posted February 14, 2018 I like poontang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 905 Posted February 14, 2018 I've discussed this technique before. Usually employed by televangelist. That, and scam artist. You start of by rushing through a statement that nobody has time to think about and you're willing and gullible audience just nods her head and says Aha, and then you roll from there. " well, everyone knows that water is radioactive." "Ahum" " and do you notice how all of these so-called Charities are always passing out free water to tragedies where people don't have any options?"..... Does anybody remember Clinton being praised for Monica Lewinsky? The Daily Show made their bones on that Scandal. It basically entrenched cable news networks to where they are today. And oh by the way, the guy got impeached. But blather on troll... Well said wiff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted February 15, 2018 Well said wiff Right Said Fred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted February 15, 2018 Eh Republicans / conservatives have been defined by 1. Family values, 2. deficit control, 3. national security, and 4. tax cuts. Today it's just tax cuts. But then the conservatives have either chosen to follow Trump & his nationalism or abandoned the party. But when was the last time the GOP was for deficit control? Trump is about to blow up the deficit like never seen before. Hell, the baby boomers are completely focking us all over. Its all a facade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 15, 2018 But when was the last time the GOP was for deficit control? Trump is about to blow up the deficit like never seen before. Hell, the baby boomers are completely focking us all over. Its all a facade. The GOP has always played at least lip service, it's been a staple year after year. What's different now is they're supporting his infrastructure plan which is an old liberal standard and they don't even care that their own president is shoving out a trillion $ deficit. Yeah they're not even pretending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted February 15, 2018 Silence about what? About banging her 10 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted February 15, 2018 I think the difference is the GOP preaches Christian values and the DEMS do not. That's why it's always major news when a REP is an adulterer, homo, etc. Liberals are expected to be those things. The flip side of that is dems preach gay sex, trannies, pedophelia, sexual assault/casting couch, bestiality, etc. So when they clutch their pearls over consensual hetero adultery it is hard to take them seriously. And yeah, GOP/Christians who get on their moral high horse are idiots too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 905 Posted February 15, 2018 The flip side of that is dems preach gay sex, trannies, pedophelia, sexual assault/casting couch, bestiality, etc. So when they clutch their pearls over consensual hetero adultery it is hard to take them seriously. And yeah, GOP/Christians who get on their moral high horse are idiots too. Troll on troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 15, 2018 The flip side of that is dems preach gay sex, trannies, pedophelia, sexual assault/casting couch, bestiality, etc. So when they clutch their pearls over consensual hetero adultery it is hard to take them seriously. And yeah, GOP/Christians who get on their moral high horse are idiots too. well said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 But then the conservatives have either chosen to follow Trump & his nationalism or abandoned the party. As opposed to the Democrats who've taken the path of nearly 100% defending the weaponization of the FBI/DOJ despite the mountain of evidence showing their guilt. Numerous members of the intelligence community/media being investigated all as a result of trying to get that corrupt b!tch Hillary elected. I challenge you to find a Democratic member of Congress or the MSM that's condemned the actions of Hillary/DNC/FBI/DOJ trying to affect the Primary and General elections then destroy an elected President. Truly focking pathetic what your party has become. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 15, 2018 As opposed to the Democrats who've taken the path of nearly 100% defending the weaponization of the FBI/DOJ despite the mountain of evidence showing their guilt. Numerous members of the intelligence community/media being investigated all as a result of trying to get that corrupt b!tch Hillary elected. I challenge you to find a member of Congress or the MSM that's condemned the actions of Hillary/DNC/FBI/DOJ trying to affect then destroy an elected President. Truly focking pathetic what your party has become. add that to the FACT that they care more about illegal criminals than real American citizens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted February 15, 2018 And this is why Id bet 60% of the country is looking at both sides thinking theyre assh0les Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,638 Posted February 15, 2018 The GOP has always played at least lip service, it's been a staple year after year. What's different now is they're supporting his infrastructure plan which is an old liberal standard and they don't even care that their own president is shoving out a trillion $ deficit. Yeah they're not even pretending.No, his budget was already projected to add another trillion or so to the deficit even without the infrastructure plan. I seriously think Captain dementia thinks he's still running casinos that he can just walk away from and declare bankruptcy. I mean remember his campaign? I love debt! I'm the king of debt! Those are quotes people. What? We thought he was going to become more disciplined once he got in office? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 15, 2018 No, his budget was already projected to add another trillion or so to the deficit even without the infrastructure plan. I seriously think Captain dementia thinks he's still running casinos that he can just walk away from and declare bankruptcy. I mean remember his campaign? I love debt! I'm the king of debt! Those are ###### quotes people. What? We thought he was going to become more disciplined once he got in office? That makes sense. - I was just pointing out that an infrastructure program has almost been a feature of liberal Democratic administrations and candidates and the GOP has always opposed them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 15, 2018 As opposed to the Democrats who've taken the path of nearly 100% defending the weaponization of the FBI/DOJ despite the mountain of evidence showing their guilt. Numerous members of the intelligence community/media being investigated all as a result of trying to get that corrupt b!tch Hillary elected. I challenge you to find a Democratic member of Congress or the MSM that's condemned the actions of Hillary/DNC/FBI/DOJ trying to affect the Primary and General elections then destroy an elected President. Truly focking pathetic what your party has become. You sound like a late 60s / early 70s leftist radical right now in terms of your view of the IC and law enforcement. I'm just pointing that out because it proves my point as I am sure you think of yourself as a pretty conservative fellow. I'm not a Democrat. But I also don't understand why you let Democratic actions or reaction affect your beliefs. It's a conservative axiom that a public official's morality reflects on their suitability and qualification for office. You ought to wrap this back into the point of the thread which is Stormy Daniels. Trump has lied to his followers on this. And not only was there Daniels, there was also the Playboy model, and his wife who, an immigrant who may have overstayed or falsely gotten her visa, who knows, did lesbo S&M nude shots for publication. And the two divorces, the cheating, etc. - I am not judging him or them, here, I'm just again pointing out how all this is against traditional conservative, Republican standards, and the Daniels thing also just shows the depths of the lying. And really the point is rather than kick him to the curb over and over again conservatives change their values to defend him, one man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 You sound like a late 60s / early 70s leftist radical right now in terms of your view of the IC and law enforcement. I'm just pointing that out because it proves my point as I am sure you think of yourself as a pretty conservative fellow. I'm not a Democrat. But I also don't understand why you let Democratic actions or reaction affect your beliefs. It's a conservative axiom that a public official's morality reflects on their suitability and qualification for office. You ought to wrap this back into the point of the thread which is Stormy Daniels. Trump has lied to his followers on this. And not only was there Daniels, there was also the Playboy model, and his wife who, an immigrant who may have overstayed or falsely gotten her visa, who knows, did lesbo S&M nude shots for publication. And the two divorces, the cheating, etc. - I am not judging him or them, here, I'm just again pointing out how all this is against traditional conservative, Republican standards, and the Daniels thing also just shows the depths of the lying. And really the point is rather than kick him to the curb over and over again conservatives change their values to defend him, one man. I read and comprehend what I read. We have been fed a huge plate of bullsh!t called Russian Collusion that few of us here didn't accept while others gobbled it down greedily and asked for more. Why? Because you wanted to believe that about Trump and probably still do. Again, I read the stories and looked at the facts that didn't add up and still don't. Now we find out the FBI/DOJ leadership was in on ALL of it. ALL of it.......Now the current leadership is blocking release of requested documents and covering it up. The only way that will get cleaned up is for us to demand it and call them out on it. As far as Trump and Daniels...............that's not a deal breaker for me. And you are one of the ones trying over and over again to paint the FBI/DOJ scandal in a better light instead of calling it deplorable so who are you to question anyone's judgement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 15, 2018 I read and comprehend what I read. We have been fed a huge plate of bullsh!t called Russian Collusion that few of us here didn't accept while others gobbled it down greedily and asked for more. Why? Because you wanted to believe that about Trump and probably still do. Again, I read the stories and looked at the facts that didn't add up and still don't. Now we find out the FBI/DOJ leadership was in on ALL of it. ALL of it.......Now the current leadership is blocking release of requested documents and covering it up. The only way that will get cleaned up is for us to demand it and call them out on it. As far as Trump and Daniels...............that's not a deal breaker for me. And you are one of the ones trying over and over again to paint the FBI/DOJ scandal in a better light instead of calling it deplorable so who are you to question anyone's judgement? It's not a deal breaker for you because you're not an evangelical or conservative. Which I get and that's fine, but that was my point. Many people who viewed themselves as true conservatives and as evangelicals have dropped their beliefs for Trump. I was never addressing you in my original post, that was about conservatives. - However as for judgement I'm just pointing out that Trump has been a complete liar throughout this Daniels scandal. Now, again you don't have to care about Trump's lying either but at least take it into account when evaluating his truthiness on other things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 It's not a deal breaker for you because you're not an evangelical or conservative. Which I get and that's fine, but that was my point. Many people who viewed themselves as true conservatives and as evangelicals have dropped their beliefs for Trump. I was never addressing you in my original post, that was about conservatives. - However as for judgement I'm just pointing out that Trump has been a complete liar throughout this Daniels scandal. Now, again you don't have to care about Trump's lying either but at least take it into account when evaluating his truthiness on other things. Okay..............so now that you've been enlightened to all the corruption that occurred with the 2016 election and the subsequent downplaying by the Democrats, are you prepared to call it wrong yet or are you still defending it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 15, 2018 Okay..............so now that you've been enlightened to all the corruption that occurred with the 2016 election and the subsequent downplaying by the Democrats, are you prepared to call it wrong yet or are you still defending it? I'm not going to get into a long discussion of reported facts about the Russia investigation in a Stormy Daniels thread. I was just responding to the point about how conservatives and evangelicals have abandoned their beliefs for Trump. I think that's a pretty basic point and you've plainly said you don't feel bound by any kind of conservatism or support for traditional Republican values. I think if you want to tie it in somehow, I'd say look at Daniels' comments about her interactions with Schiller, Cohen's lies and cover up, Trump's proclivity with shagging sex workers, and how he paid someone (and maybe two people) off to keep them from exposing him publicly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 I'm not going to get into a long discussion of reported facts about the Russia investigation in a Stormy Daniels thread. I was just responding to the point about how conservatives and evangelicals have abandoned their beliefs for Trump. I think that's a pretty basic point and you've plainly said you don't feel bound by any kind of conservatism or support for traditional Republican values. I think if you want to tie it in somehow, I'd say look at Daniels' comments about her interactions with Schiller, Cohen's lies and cover up, Trump's proclivity with shagging sex workers, and how he paid someone (and maybe two people) off to keep them from exposing him publicly. It was a Yes or No answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 15, 2018 It was a Yes or No answer. Thanks, but II'll go n/a since we haven't gotten the reports back from the IG or Mueller yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 Thanks, but II'll go n/a since we haven't gotten the reports back from the IG or Mueller yet. Mueller isn't investigating Russia anymore and never was. His role was the Democratic endgame i.e. Obstruction of Justice or Perjury case hence the reason to wiretap the sh!t out of Trump in the months FOLLOWING the election. And the I.G. has already released stuff to us; where do you think the text messages between Strzok/Page came from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted February 15, 2018 Mueller isn't investigating Russia anymore and never was. His role was the Democratic endgame i.e. Obstruction of Justice or Perjury case hence the reason to wiretap the sh!t out of Trump in the months FOLLOWING the election. And the I.G. has already released stuff to us; where do you think the text messages between Strzok/Page came from? The DOJ IG is going to issue a report, something he has not done yet. I'm just saying I will rely on the institutions, which frankly is something conservatives and liberals should share. WADR, I'm not sure why you're still at me on this in a Stormy Daniels thread. Again my point had to do with conservatives and evangelicals and you've repeatedly made the point you don't feel like that includes you. If you can somehow tie your points in as to how they relate to the Stormy Daniels story, that would be good, I made that attempt on my part further up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 The DOJ IG is going to issue a report, something he has not done yet. I'm just saying I will rely on the institutions, which frankly is something conservatives and liberals should share. WADR, I'm not sure why you're still at me on this in a Stormy Daniels thread. Again my point had to do with conservatives and evangelicals and you've repeatedly made the point you don't feel like that includes you. If you can somehow tie your points in as to how they relate to the Stormy Daniels story, that would be good, I made that attempt on my part further up. You made a generalization about "But then the conservatives have either chosen to follow Trump & his nationalism or abandoned the party." and I made a generalization about Democrats (that's actually much more accurate than yours). Regardless of what you think, I am a conservative and don't mind saying things are wrong regardless of what it means to my party because I'm NOT a Republican; I'm a Conservative. Why you guys on the left STILL refuse to condemn the behavior by the FBI/DOJ under the Obama administration is beyond me. You guys act as if it diminishes you somehow. As I've told my kids "Saying I was wrong or I'm sorry doesn't cost you anything except pride". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
