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#41 MDC

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 08:46 AM

Dont blame her for thinking Shapiro made this offer in bad faith but it was really, really dumb to liken it to catcalling. Shes not the face of the Democratic Party but she is becoming the face of the Democratic Socialist wing of the party. Also people talk about her like shes smoking? I think shes an attractive woman but nothing special. I guess for a politician shes unusually hot.
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#42 Sho Nuff

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 08:46 AM

I don't think she's the face of the Democratic party either. I do however believe she's becoming the face of the Bernie Sanders "Democratic socialist" or "socialist" or "progressive" wing or whatever term they wanna use.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 08:47 AM

Dont blame her for thinking Shapiro made this offer in bad faith but it was really, really dumb to liken it to catcalling. Shes not the face of the Democratic Party but she is becoming the face of the Democratic Socialist wing of the party. Also people talk about her like shes smoking? I think shes an attractive woman but nothing special. I guess for a politician shes unusually hot.

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#44 NorthernVike

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 08:49 AM

How about here? 


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 08:55 AM

How about here? 

 

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:05 AM

Shapiro debates people, it is part of the fabric of what he does.  I can allow that she might not understand that, and will also allow that her lack of understanding and maturity made her jump to the standard leftist tactic of labelling.

 

She needs to buck up a little of course, but if I were advising her....no way in hell do I let her near Shapiro, he would eviscerate her.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:07 AM

The left is so focking stupid Shapiro would completely destroy her and you'd have idiots like Sho saying that she "held her own" or something. Complete waste of time at this point to try and reason with those people.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:37 AM

Shapiro debates people, it is part of the fabric of what he does.  I can allow that she might not understand that, and will also allow that her lack of understanding and maturity made her jump to the standard leftist tactic of labelling.

 

She needs to buck up a little of course, but if I were advising her....no way in hell do I let her near Shapiro, he would eviscerate her.

 

You all overrate Shapiro quite a bit.  I haven't followed anything particular about Ocasio, so not sure on how should fare on a debate with him.  But yes, no way in hell should she go on his show to debate him.  The prospect of gaining anything is so effing slim it would be pointless.  If she won the debate in some manner, her base would celebrate and every knob in this thread would claim she lost and somehow went apepoop.  


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:41 AM

 

You all overrate Shapiro quite a bit.  I haven't followed anything particular about Ocasio, so not sure on how should fare on a debate with him.  But yes, no way in hell should she go on his show to debate him.  The prospect of gaining anything is so effing slim it would be pointless.  If she won the debate in some manner, her base would celebrate and every knob in this thread would claim she lost and somehow went apepoop.  

 

I base my assertion on the many instances of him debating a range of people, to include Maher.  Maher is far more capable than this woman, and I thought that debate was a draw.

 

Shapiro has weaknesses, but his ability to maintain a logical focus is well-known.  Peterson is more logical but also less specific in his opinions and justifications, Crowder is more of a sensationalist.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:44 AM

 
You all overrate Shapiro quite a bit.  I haven't followed anything particular about Ocasio, so not sure on how should fare on a debate with him.  But yes, no way in hell should she go on his show to debate him.  The prospect of gaining anything is so effing slim it would be pointless.  If she won the debate in some manner, her base would celebrate and every knob in this thread would claim she lost and somehow went apepoop.  


So she shouid get to make decisions, but not have to explain the reason for them. Got it.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:54 AM

 

You all overrate Shapiro quite a bit.  I haven't followed anything particular about Ocasio, so not sure on how should fare on a debate with him.  But yes, no way in hell should she go on his show to debate him.  The prospect of gaining anything is so effing slim it would be pointless.  If she won the debate in some manner, her base would celebrate and every knob in this thread would claim she lost and somehow went apepoop.  

 

you probably also think Ted Cruz is horrible at debate too


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:56 AM

 

I base my assertion on the many instances of him debating a range of people, to include Maher.  Maher is far more capable than this woman, and I thought that debate was a draw.

 

Shapiro has weaknesses, but his ability to maintain a logical focus is well-known.  Peterson is more logical but also less specific in his opinions and justifications, Crowder is more of a sensationalist.

 

I watched to Maher one.  Remember it as Maher winning on some level.  Maybe that's me..I'll watch again.  


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:56 AM

I know I wouldn't debate him.


If you are going to debate me on this bulletin board,

start with this premise..

You win.  And I don't care.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:57 AM

Nearly all debate on cable news consists of interrupting your opponent, mischaracterizing his positions, blowing over strawmen and shouting him down etc. The person who does this the best is the big winner.
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:57 AM

 

I watched to Maher one.  Remember it as Maher winning on some level.  Maybe that's me..I'll watch again.  

 

dont watch based on which side you agree with, watch the mannerisms, the whataboutisms and the changing of topics Maher uses along with the I need to say something extremely left leaning right now to get some cheers


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:59 AM

Nearly all debate on cable news consists of interrupting your opponent, mischaracterizing his positions, blowing over strawmen and shouting him down etc. The person who does this the best is the big winner.

 

Shapiro doesn't debate on cable news

 

Quite frankly she should go on the Dave Rubin Report, where he just does a long form 2 hour interview, Shapiro also does this once a week

 


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 09:59 AM

Nearly all debate on cable news consists of interrupting your opponent, mischaracterizing his positions, blowing over strawmen and shouting him down etc. The person who does this the best is the big winner.

Sounds familiar.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 10:09 AM

 

I watched to Maher one.  Remember it as Maher winning on some level.  Maybe that's me..I'll watch again.  

 

If you watch it again, dumping any tilt in any direction, it really comes out as two guys making excellent points that counter each other, but at the very end Maher plays his hand just a little and loses his focus, just a tiny bit.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 10:31 AM

 

If you watch it again, dumping any tilt in any direction, it really comes out as two guys making excellent points that counter each other, but at the very end Maher plays his hand just a little and loses his focus, just a tiny bit.

 

just watched again..and would say it was how I remembered it.  better described as a conversation than a debate though.  didn't think Maher overplayed anything at the end, this was the part where they were talking about taking out Rosenstein, I would have more of a problem with that than Shapiro, but nothing wrong with his thought there, and then Maher just closed with if the Mueller report got squashed should impeach be on the table, and Shapiro said yes.  At 7 minutes he said Trump isn't a thought leader in the Repub party.. :doh:

 

eta - try my best always to look with out tilt..thought Shapiro made good points for sure


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 10:32 AM

She's the new face.  She obliterated the fat old white guy who got handed the job and was up for Speaker.  She's from NY.  She's everything the Democrats have been targeting for years.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 10:33 AM

Shapiro neutralized Maher when he said there were two elephants. Maher knows it's true

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 10:56 AM

 

just watched again..and would say it was how I remembered it.  better described as a conversation than a debate though.  didn't think Maher overplayed anything at the end, this was the part where they were talking about taking out Rosenstein, I would have more of a problem with that than Shapiro, but nothing wrong with his thought there, and then Maher just closed with if the Mueller report got squashed should impeach be on the table, and Shapiro said yes.  At 7 minutes he said Trump isn't a thought leader in the Repub party.. :doh:

 

eta - try my best always to look with out tilt..thought Shapiro made good points for sure

 

I love it that these two did this, primarily because it represents the right way to talk to one another.  It's a great model to emulate, let's just talk....  his debate with jenk was ok, sorta Meh because the crowd was clearly behind Shapiro, which meant jenk did not really get after him.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 10:59 AM

I admit truths...not bullshit opinions of nutty rather get wingers.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:00 AM

Rehashing the same bullshit you tried last time.
A focking lost cause.

You once again look like a complete fool in this thread. 



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:14 AM

 

I love it that these two did this, primarily because it represents the right way to talk to one another.  It's a great model to emulate, let's just talk....  his debate with jenk was ok, sorta Meh because the crowd was clearly behind Shapiro, which meant jenk did not really get after him.

 

Yeah, I did too.  I liked Shapiro's sometime Trump line.  It was a good point.  Its why I think people are not as divided as some would have you think.  You can have voted Trump and not back everything he says or does...you can call out Trump and not have derangement syndrome.  More importantly, everytime someone says something, they are not speaking for the left or right, they are just giving their opinion.  


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:26 AM

 
Yeah, I did too.  I liked Shapiro's sometime Trump line.  It was a good point.  Its why I think people are not as divided as some would have you think.  You can have voted Trump and not back everything he says or does...you can call out Trump and not have derangement syndrome.  More importantly, everytime someone says something, they are not speaking for the left or right, they are just giving their opinion.  


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:07 PM

Her face is better for a t-shirt than Samantha Bee's or Maxine Water's.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:08 PM

Her face is better for a t-shirt than Samantha Bee's or Maxine Water's.

That's not a high bar you're setting. 



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 01:39 PM

Well she's definitely the sit-on-my-face of the party.  :wub:

 

Nobody's disputing that.  :nono:



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 02:48 PM

It is obvious that she's unable to defend her proposed policies. Why she challenged any Republican to a debate is puzzling?

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 03:29 PM

She doesn't have to debate anybody. Being a female minority Democrat, she automatically gets the NY vote, no matter how crazy she is.
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Posted 10 August 2018 - 07:11 PM

I think the bigger problem the left has is she's out there all over the place doing interviews, podcast and no one on the left has grabbed her by the poosy and told her to shut the fock up. She's becoming the face the Democratic Party and nobody has put her in check. That's going to be a problem.

 

The dems are doing a major phayle throwing her out there before she is ready.  The beauty of Obama was that he was this charismatic but unknown person until the buildup to the election. She will be a statistic soon...

 

 

You all overrate Shapiro quite a bit.  I haven't followed anything particular about Ocasio, so not sure on how should fare on a debate with him.  But yes, no way in hell should she go on his show to debate him.  The prospect of gaining anything is so effing slim it would be pointless.  If she won the debate in some manner, her base would celebrate and every knob in this thread would claim she lost and somehow went apepoop.  

 

You clearly haven't watched either speak, because Shapiro would mop the floor with her.  This is not debatable by any rational means.

 

 


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 07:26 AM

Low level reporters (CNN) are beating this woman with softball questions about the basics of her platform. Debating Shapiro would be the quickest way for her to reach political suicide.

People keep talking about her attractive appearance, but have you seen a picture of her smiling. Shes got the mouth of Baba Booey.

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 07:32 AM

 
You clearly haven't watched either speak, because Shapiro would mop the floor with her.  This is not debatable by any rational means.


I have not watched a lot of his debates, but of the few I did, I was really impressed. Smart guy and quick thinker. Not on board with everything he says, but I agree with most of it.

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 08:03 AM

Ben focked up. What he offered her was a job and as Wiff and Slow Nut prove the biggest fear of the Socialist Democrats is actualy working.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 10:30 AM

Hate to do it but agree with the chick here. I mean she is kind of labeling him a misogynist. So she is stooping to his level. But he shouldn't have made a spectacle out of inviting her to debate. If he was serious about discussion, he wouldn't have the need to publish his request for debate on social media. 

 

If he was legit he would contact her directly and invite her. Also not thorw the 10 grand around and say "look at me, look at me". Then if she refuses his request to debate he could make it a story. But even that is a bit iffy to me.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 10:33 AM

Hate to do it but agree with the chick here. I mean she is kind of labeling him a misogynist. So she is stooping to his level. But he shouldn't have made a spectacle out of inviting her to debate. If he was serious about discussion, he wouldn't have the need to publish his request for debate on social media. 

 

If he was legit he would contact her directly and invite her. Also not thorw the 10 grand around and say "look at me, look at me". Then if she refuses his request to debate he could make it a story. But even that is a bit iffy to me.

 

Ben Shapiro is hardly a misogynist, and fwiw, he has sent her multiple emails and phone calls to try to interview her or debate, she has refused to return his calls or even have anyone from her office contact him.  Hes a journalist with the eyes of millions of millenials, if you feel so strongly about your socialist platform you should welcome that opportunity.  Since shes ignored him multiple times (while stating no Republican wants to debate/talk to her) she is open game.  He is not even remotely in the wrong

 

you hear this from the left, you take guys like Rubin, Shapiro, Crowder, who continually invite leftists onto their platform only to decline, while saying nobody on the right will listen or debate me.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 10:39 AM

What is she going to debate? That we need to spend 60 trillion over a decade because of a tax cut bill?

Its not a serious discussion which is why it they arent debating anything. Just the generic identity politics pivots

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 10:58 AM

 

Ben Shapiro is hardly a misogynist, and fwiw, he has sent her multiple emails and phone calls to try to interview her or debate, she has refused to return his calls or even have anyone from her office contact him.  Hes a journalist with the eyes of millions of millenials, if you feel so strongly about your socialist platform you should welcome that opportunity.  Since shes ignored him multiple times (while stating no Republican wants to debate/talk to her) she is open game.  He is not even remotely in the wrong

 

you hear this from the left, you take guys like Rubin, Shapiro, Crowder, who continually invite leftists onto their platform only to decline, while saying nobody on the right will listen or debate me.

 

I didn't say he was. Hell I don't even know who he is. I merely pointed out that she stooped to his level, name calling on social media. Also I did not know he has invited her to debate prior to this, in a non public way. Which I don't know if that could even be verified other than he said she said? And even then, he is grand standing after the fact. Which is just more of the same trashy behavior that gets angry/fringe people to click on the link I suppose.



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Posted 11 August 2018 - 11:01 AM

I didn't say he was. Hell I don't even know who he is. I merely pointed out that she stooped to his level, name calling on social media. Also I did not know he has invited her to debate prior to this, in a non public way. Which I don't know if that could even be verified other than he said she said? And even then, he is grand standing after the fact. Which is just more of the same trashy behavior that gets angry/fringe people to click on the link I suppose.


So basically you’re admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about.