McCaffrey & Cook

[Lamb of God 14]

Real talk, am I crazy for thinking of Cook in the middle of rnd 2? 12tm ppr. Assume I took a wr in rnd 1.

I don't see that as a bad pick with what's left at that spot. Miller whom I had last year isn't a notified 1 and lynch no thanks he has a good o line but dudes been out of football for a year and Hyde on that team no thanks id take cook or mixon and be happy as I think they'll produce as much but I'd also try to back that up with say riddick, Powell, basically any other proven rb like an Ingram in case u had to play them instead.

[SAA 12]

Who fits int the mold of OBJ a couple of years ago. A star that is injured or suspended> Obviously Elliot. Anyone else?

I just thought of one. Luck. But he is a little different in that he already has a track record. OBJ hadn't even played in the NFL yet. But if Luck's ADP starts to drop, he is someone to keep an eye on.

Doug Martin?

[LoOnAtIk 75]

My question is:

 

Is Fournette still ranked ahead of these 2? Seems like both have been soaring up the rankings and people are ho hum lately on Fournette with foot injury...

[Ray_T 589]

My question is:

 

Is Fournette still ranked ahead of these 2? Seems like both have been soaring up the rankings and people are ho hum lately on Fournette with foot injury...

yeah, and if Bortles continues to look bad in pre season, I'd drop him a little further down my rankings.

 

if Bortles regresses to the point where he loses his job as the starter, I'd drop him further still.

 

If the QB does not inspire fear of any kind in the defense, it's tough to run the ball against a stacked box.

[Gepetto 982]

I wouldn't take any of these RC RBs in the first 4 rounds. They all have competition in their own backfields. McCaffrey looks awesome though.

[tanatastic 2,061]

I wouldn't take any of these RC RBs in the first 4 rounds. They all have competition in their own backfields. McCaffrey looks awesome though.

It's a risk yes but we are scared of missing lightning in a bottle type seasons. We have all been burned in these early by 3 down rbs taken for their volume who underperformed. Meanwhile we watch talented rookies supposedly splitting time run away with the job and have magical seasons. I get FOMO!

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

I wouldn't take any of these RC RBs in the first 4 rounds. They all have competition in their own backfields. McCaffrey looks awesome though.

 

This. I won't take any of them until the 4th or 5th round.

[Brutal Brutus 182]

I wouldn't take any of these RC RBs in the first 4 rounds. They all have competition in their own backfields. McCaffrey looks awesome though.

I think Cook now has the job to himself. Murray and Mckinon have proven themselves as ordinary talents and they need a dynamic talent behind that line. Also, I really don't think Murray's running style will work behind that O-line. He managed only decent numbers behind one of the best O-lines in football, and now he'll run behind one of the worst. I still see Stewart as taking a good chunk of the work in Carolina. However, if McCaffrey keeps look this capable of a runner, they'll have to give him more touches. You don't use a top 10 pick on a running back to have him sit when he's the most talented back on your roster.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

I think Cook now has the job to himself. Murray and Mckinon have proven themselves as ordinary talents and they need a dynamic talent behind that line. Also, I really don't think Murray's running style will work behind that O-line. He managed only decent numbers behind one of the best O-lines in football, and now he'll run behind one of the worst. I still see Stewart as taking a good chunk of the work in Carolina. However, if McCaffrey keeps look this capable of a runner, they'll have to give him more touches. You don't use a top 10 pick on a running back to have him sit when he's the most talented back on your roster.

 

Uh... Murray was the #13 RB in PPR last year, while missing 2 games. I wouldn't call that "only decent numbers". Also, you're overrating the Raider OLine a tad. They were the best in the league in pass blocking, but 11th in run blocking... according to Football Outsiders.

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

[Brutal Brutus 182]

 

Uh... Murray was the #13 RB in PPR last year, while missing 2 games. I wouldn't call that "only decent numbers". Also, you're overrating the Raider OLine a tad. They were the best in the league in pass blocking, but 11th in run blocking... according to Football Outsiders.

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

His 12 TDs boosted his fantasy numbers. His 4.0 ypc, was okay. When you consider the dearth of talent they had at the RB position, he should have ran away with the starting gig and he didn't. A guy with more talent would have put up far better numbers.

[Oriole8159 86]

His 12 TDs boosted his fantasy numbers. His 4.0 ypc, was okay. When you consider the dearth of talent they had at the RB position, he should have ran away with the starting gig and he didn't. A guy with more talent would have put up far better numbers.

 

I agree with this.

TBay, you don't confuse fantasy success with being an actual good football player, which was the point that Brutus was making. Just 2 years ago fantasy championships were won by the likes of Shaun Draughn, Buck Allen, and Tim Hightower.

 

It's very easy to be a fantasy relevant RB, but that doesn't mean they're an actual good football player. L Murray is pedestrian at best.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

 

I agree with this.

TBay, you don't confuse fantasy success with being an actual good football player, which was the point that Brutus was making. Just 2 years ago fantasy championships were won by the likes of Shaun Draughn, Buck Allen, and Tim Hightower.

 

It's very easy to be a fantasy relevant RB, but that doesn't mean they're an actual good football player. L Murray is pedestrian at best.

 

Murray isn't pedestrian though. He is a talented player, just not a complete back. There are plenty of those in the league and can start for an NFL team and a fantasy team. It doesn't mean he's someone that an NFL team can set and forget that position, but it also doesn't mean he's worthless. He will absolutely have a significant impact Cook's potential "this" year.

[Oriole8159 86]

 

Murray isn't pedestrian though. He is a talented player, just not a complete back. There are plenty of those in the league and can start for an NFL team and a fantasy team. It doesn't mean he's someone that an NFL team can set and forget that position, but it also doesn't mean he's worthless. He will absolutely have a significant impact Cook's potential "this" year.

 

I disagree. If anyone should be a 3 down back, it's this guy. He has all the physical tools as well as decent receiving skills, but he's just still not good. He's not good at identifying holes, breaking tackles, and for a guy who is that strong, he's not a very physical runner.

 

He's definitely an NFL player, but I very much disagree that he should be a starter on an NFL team.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

 

I disagree. If anyone should be a 3 down back, it's this guy. He has all the physical tools as well as decent receiving skills, but he's just still not good. He's not good at identifying holes, breaking tackles, and for a guy who is that strong, he's not a very physical runner.

 

He's definitely an NFL player, but I very much disagree that he should be a starter on an NFL team.

 

Fair enough. Agree to disagree.

[Kent 228]

 

This. I won't take any of them until the 4th or 5th round.

I'd take a chance on McCaffrey in the late 3rd. Stewart is old and often injured. McCaffrey is also gonna see a ton of snaps thanks to his versatility regardless. They have to respect Cam running. They don't have scary WRs. A good O-Line. Plays in a friendly Division. I think he's the least risky big time rookie RB this year.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

I'd take a chance on McCaffrey in the late 3rd. Stewart is old and often injured. McCaffrey is also gonna see a ton of snaps thanks to his versatility regardless. They have to respect Cam running. They don't have scary WRs. A good O-Line. Plays in a friendly Division. I think he's the least risky big time rookie RB this year.

 

Carolina has a good OLine? Since when? The NFC South is apparently going to surprise you this year for their defense.

[IMMensaMind 459]

Carolina has a good OLine? Since when? The NFC South is apparently going to surprise you this year for their defense.

This is a good point, but I love McCaffrey this year precisely because of that fact. A conventional RB may be more shut down against the newly reformed Ds of the NFC South, but a player like McCaffrey simply needs to find a crease behind the unseasoned and aggressive LB corps that will now form the basis of these new and improved Ds - and I think he can take advantage of regular overpursuits of the line of scrimmage.

[Kent 228]

 

Carolina has a good OLine? Since when? The NFC South is apparently going to surprise you this year for their defense.

Kalil, Turner and Norwell are a good run blocking group.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

 

Murray isn't pedestrian though. He is a talented player, just not a complete back. There are plenty of those in the league and can start for an NFL team and a fantasy team. It doesn't mean he's someone that an NFL team can set and forget that position, but it also doesn't mean he's worthless. He will absolutely have a significant impact Cook's potential "this" year.

Murray is pretty close to pedestrian in my opinion. Throw the numbers away for a second have you watched him play? He's a plodder and he runs almost completely upright so his pads are always really high. He's not gonna make many miss and he's not gonna run away from anyone and he's always a risk to get hurt running like that. My scouting report on Latavius Murray makes him a slight upgrade to ASSiata but that's about it. A poor mans legarette Blount / short yardage specialist. Shouldn't take long for Cook to take the 3 down role but Murray might vulture some TDs.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

Kalil, Turner and Norwell are a good run blocking group.

 

Last year that group ranked 25th in run blocking according to football outsiders. I've seen a few articles that ranked their OLine (for this year), in the 20's. Saw one that had them 12(?).

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

This is a good point, but I love McCaffrey this year precisely because of that fact. A conventional RB may be more shut down against the newly reformed Ds of the NFC South, but a player like McCaffrey simply needs to find a crease behind the unseasoned and aggressive LB corps that will now form the basis of these new and improved Ds - and I think he can take advantage of regular overpursuits of the line of scrimmage.

 

This is a valid point.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

Murray is pretty close to pedestrian in my opinion. Throw the numbers away for a second have you watched him play? He's a plodder and he runs almost completely upright so his pads are always really high. He's not gonna make many miss and he's not gonna run away from anyone and he's always a risk to get hurt running like that. My scouting report on Latavius Murray makes him a slight upgrade to ASSiata but that's about it. A poor mans legarette Blount / short yardage specialist. Shouldn't take long for Cook to take the 3 down role but Murray might vulture some TDs.

 

I've seen a few Raiders games... not many. He looked "fine". Average. He wasn't special, but he was perfectly adequate to do the job. The Raider OLine gets a little too much credit in my opinion. They are elite at pass blocking, but slightly better than average in run blocking.

 

Cook is a guy who like to bounce (mostly), everything outside. In the NFL, that won't fly. The LB's and even DL's are much quicker here than in the ACC. He's not a reliable pass blocker and drops a lot of passes when popping out into the flat. Plus, he's a bit of a fumbler. Now, a lot of this is coach-able, so I'm not saying he won't end up being great... I just think there will be a learning curve and he will disappoint people this year.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

 

I've seen a few Raiders games... not many. He looked "fine". Average. He wasn't special, but he was perfectly adequate to do the job. The Raider OLine gets a little too much credit in my opinion. They are elite at pass blocking, but slightly better than average in run blocking.

 

Cook is a guy who like to bounce (mostly), everything outside. In the NFL, that won't fly. The LB's and even DL's are much quicker here than in the ACC. He's not a reliable pass blocker and drops a lot of passes when popping out into the flat. Plus, he's a bit of a fumbler. Now, a lot of this is coach-able, so I'm not saying he won't end up being great... I just think there will be a learning curve and he will disappoint people this year.

If I'm the Vikings head coach and my O-line is not creating any running lanes,

 

Do I start the young, more talented back, that likes to bounce it to the outside? Or do I go with the plodder running between the tackles when there's no running lanes?

 

Cook just makes too much sense here. Like I stated earlier I def could see Murray taking the ASSiata role and vulturing TDs all year long.

 

So there is no way I'm drafting Murray unless it's to handcuff Cook.

[Ray_T 589]

 

I've seen a few Raiders games... not many. He looked "fine". Average. He wasn't special, but he was perfectly adequate to do the job. The Raider OLine gets a little too much credit in my opinion. They are elite at pass blocking, but slightly better than average in run blocking.

 

Cook is a guy who like to bounce (mostly), everything outside. In the NFL, that won't fly. The LB's and even DL's are much quicker here than in the ACC. He's not a reliable pass blocker and drops a lot of passes when popping out into the flat. Plus, he's a bit of a fumbler. Now, a lot of this is coach-able, so I'm not saying he won't end up being great... I just think there will be a learning curve and he will disappoint people this year.

This is a fair analysis.

 

Latavius Murray is no stud at RB. He's Adequate. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

cook is dynamic, but a lot of the things he did with his speed at the college level wont work at the NFL level. He will need to learn to take the yards that are blocked for him and some RB's of his talents take some time to figure that out.

 

Cook I think will eventually be a top notch back but I think his chances of showing this this year is roughly 50-50.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

If I'm the Vikings head coach and my O-line is not creating any running lanes,

 

Do I start the young, more talented back, that likes to bounce it to the outside? Or do I go with the plodder running between the tackles when there's no running lanes?

 

Cook just makes too much sense here. Like I stated earlier I def could see Murray taking the ASSiata role and vulturing TDs all year long.

 

So there is no way I'm drafting Murray unless it's to handcuff Cook.

 

Oh, I'm not saying you should draft Murray... I'm just saying that if you take Cook in the 2nd or 3rd round, I think you're going to be disappointed in the results.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

Just look at the video game numbers that Cook was putting up at FSU. I live in Florida so I got to see him on TV a lot. On just talent alone I think Cook is one of the best RBs I've seen coming out of college since Reggie Bush and Adrian Peterson. That includes Zeke, Melvin Gordon, Gurley, even Fournette.

 

Couldn't believe he fell as far as he did in the draft when Fournette and Mccaffrey went top 10. My guess is for character concerns but the dude is equally talented as those 2 if not better. He has the quick feet and moves that Fournette doesn't really have and he has the strength and stiff arm that Mccaffrey doesn't use. I would not be shocked if he's the best of the bunch 10 years from now but also wouldn't be shocked if he wins ROY this year.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

Just look at the video game numbers that Cook was putting up at FSU. I live in Florida so I got to see him on TV a lot. On just talent alone I think Cook is one of the best RBs I've seen coming out of college since Reggie Bush and Adrian Peterson. That includes Zeke, Melvin Gordon, Gurley, even Fournette.

 

Couldn't believe he fell as far as he did in the draft when Fournette and Mccaffrey went top 10. My guess is for character concerns but the dude is equally talented as those 2 if not better. He has the quick feet and moves that Fournette doesn't really have and he has the strength and stiff arm that Mccaffrey doesn't use. I would not be shocked if he's the best of the bunch 10 years from now but also wouldn't be shocked if he wins ROY this year.

 

To rate him over Elliott is pure ignorance in my opinion. From a college standpoint, Elliott was an elite pass blocker, pass catcher, and inside runner. In no way, shape, or form can you say that about Cook. Elliott was quite possible the most complete RB to ever enter the draft. He's comparable to guys like LT and Sanders... all-time greats, on that front. Cook does NOT belong in that conversation. Peterson would fall into that group as well I believe, but certainly not Fournette, Gurley, Bush, Gordon, or Cook. That's just ridiculous.

[Hawkeye21 1,852]

 

To rate him over Elliott is pure ignorance in my opinion. From a college standpoint, Elliott was an elite pass blocker, pass catcher, and inside runner. In no way, shape, or form can you say that about Cook. Elliott was quite possible the most complete RB to ever enter the draft. He's comparable to guys like LT and Sanders... all-time greats, on that front. Cook does NOT belong in that conversation. Peterson would fall into that group as well I believe, but certainly not Fournette, Gurley, Bush, Gordon, or Cook. That's just ridiculous.

 

You're either a huge OSU homer or just a little bit high on Elliott. I agree that he's pretty awesome and the full package but Cook is right up there too. The only thing I don't know on Cook is how good of a blocker he is. They both played three years in college so here is how they compared.

 

Elliott - 592 rushes for 3961 yards and 43 TDs. 58 catches for 449 yards and 1 TDs.

Cook - 687 rushes for 4464 yards and 46 TDs. 70 catches for 935 yards and 2 TDs.

 

I'd say there's a pretty good argument here.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

 

To rate him over Elliott is pure ignorance in my opinion. From a college standpoint, Elliott was an elite pass blocker, pass catcher, and inside runner. In no way, shape, or form can you say that about Cook. Elliott was quite possible the most complete RB to ever enter the draft. He's comparable to guys like LT and Sanders... all-time greats, on that front. Cook does NOT belong in that conversation. Peterson would fall into that group as well I believe, but certainly not Fournette, Gurley, Bush, Gordon, or Cook. That's just ridiculous.

Pure ignorance is you scoffing at the idea that Cook is just as talented as Zeke lol

 

Pass pro might be the only thing that Zeke was better at coming out of college but that can always be learned. Zeke's best receiving season at OSU saw 200 or so yards. Cook had almost 500 receiving yards last year. Almost 2300 yards from scrimmage. Zeke never cracked 2100 total yards. Cook was a monster last year and had some big games against their toughest opponents...

 

Dalvin Cook is/was twice the RB coming out of college that Devonta Freeman was (same school)... just food for thought.

 

Pure ignorance pppffffffttt lol sorry I hurt your feelings by mentioning Zeke like that but I'll double down.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

 

You're either a huge OSU homer or just a little bit high on Elliott. I agree that he's pretty awesome and the full package but Cook is right up there too. The only thing I don't know on Cook is how good of a blocker he is. They both played three years in college so here is how they compared.

 

Elliott - 592 rushes for 3961 yards and 43 TDs. 58 catches for 449 yards and 1 TDs.

Cook - 687 rushes for 4464 yards and 46 TDs. 70 catches for 935 yards and 2 TDs.

 

I'd say there's a pretty good argument here.

Twice as many receiving yards! Cmon TBay!! Lol

[The Football Guru 211]

In case this helps settle any part of your debate:

http://www.fftoday.com/articles/orth/17_dalvin_cook.html

http://www.fftoday.com/articles/orth/16_ezekiel_elliott.html

 

Elliott had few peers in the NFL in terms of his blocking skills even before he was drafted. He was (and is) rare in that regard. Cook's technique (and thus effectiveness) as a blocker wasn't at that level in college, but the Vikings seem pretty happy with his ability (and recognition) in that regard, so I don't think Cook is going to be held back much because of it. Fumbles were more of an issue for Cook than Elliott in college as well.

 

Elliott is also a more powerful and superior runner, and I imagine that will remain the case going forward. However, there are not too many other areas that come to mind where Zeke is "far superior" to Cook IMO. I'd say Cook is a superior big-play back even though his 40 time would suggest he's not, and he probably won't get nearly as much of a chance to prove it when factoring in what o-line each RB will be working behind.

[TBayXXXVII 2,114]

 

You're either a huge OSU homer or just a little bit high on Elliott. I agree that he's pretty awesome and the full package but Cook is right up there too. The only thing I don't know on Cook is how good of a blocker he is. They both played three years in college so here is how they compared.

 

Elliott - 592 rushes for 3961 yards and 43 TDs. 58 catches for 449 yards and 1 TDs.

Cook - 687 rushes for 4464 yards and 46 TDs. 70 catches for 935 yards and 2 TDs.

 

I'd say there's a pretty good argument here.

 

If you look at numbers, sure, but the Big 10 is better than the ACC. Also, production at the college level doesn't always translate to your full skill set. As I said, and EVERY scouting report will tell you this, that Elliott was at an elite level of pass blocking, catching, and route running as well as an elite level runner. There's NOTHING that Cook does that is better than Elliott.

 

Draft Profile from NFL.com

Elliott - Rated as a 7.09

BOTTOM LINE Elite, three­-down running back who has the ability to excel in every facet of the game. Elliott has rare combination of size, athleticism, pass-catching and blocking skills and his competitive nature is always bubbling on the surface.

 

Cook - Rated as a 6.28

BOTTOM LINE Very talented runner with outstanding balance, footwork and burst. Cook lacks the power that you may find with some running backs in this year's draft, but he is a homerun hitter with a resume featuring monster games against his most highly regarded opponents. Cook creates for himself with elusiveness and speed, but his value could be diminished by injuries, character and issues in pass protection.

 

I don't follow college football (I find it boring), plus I went to UConn where basketball is king, so I couldn't care less about Ohio State. In addition, from those two scouting reports, you're going to tell me that Cook = Elliott? Seriously? Come on.

[Hawkeye21 1,852]

 

If you look at numbers, sure, but the Big 10 is better than the ACC. Also, production at the college level doesn't always translate to your full skill set. As I said, and EVERY scouting report will tell you this, that Elliott was at an elite level of pass blocking, catching, and route running as well as an elite level runner. There's NOTHING that Cook does that is better than Elliott.

 

Draft Profile from NFL.com

Elliott - Rated as a 7.09

BOTTOM LINE Elite, three­-down running back who has the ability to excel in every facet of the game. Elliott has rare combination of size, athleticism, pass-catching and blocking skills and his competitive nature is always bubbling on the surface.

 

Cook - Rated as a 6.28

BOTTOM LINE Very talented runner with outstanding balance, footwork and burst. Cook lacks the power that you may find with some running backs in this year's draft, but he is a homerun hitter with a resume featuring monster games against his most highly regarded opponents. Cook creates for himself with elusiveness and speed, but his value could be diminished by injuries, character and issues in pass protection.

 

I don't follow college football (I find it boring), plus I went to UConn where basketball is king, so I couldn't care less about Ohio State. In addition, from those two scouting reports, you're going to tell me that Cook = Elliott? Seriously? Come on.

 

I'm not trying to say Cook is equal to Elliott. When I see people make claims such as saying someone is being pure ignorant and saying that another player is far superior I become curious and actually look to see if this person is correct or just full of crap. Being a college fan and B1G fan I have seen plenty of Elliott and I've heard some of Cook. I know they are both very special talents so I thought I'd look them up. I myself don't really have another way to compare them other than stats since I'm not a scout.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

 

I'm not trying to say Cook is equal to Elliott. When I see people make claims such as saying someone is being pure ignorant and saying that another player is far superior I become curious and actually look to see if this person is correct or just full of crap. Being a college fan and B1G fan I have seen plenty of Elliott and I've heard some of Cook. I know they are both very special talents so I thought I'd look them up. I myself don't really have another way to compare them other than stats since I'm not a scout.

If you google search "[each player] NFL combine" and check out NFL.com's evaluation of each player, they compare both of them to Edgerrin James lol

[LoOnAtIk 75]

TBay timeout....

 

You're admitting to not know college football yet...

 

You're attacking my opinion of "best talent I've seen COMING OUT OF COLLEGE"....

 

TBay I thought we were friends bro? Clemson and Florida were 2 of the best defenses in the nation last year.

 

Look what Dalvin Cook did to them.

[Maulers1973 117]

I'm not high on Cook. I think he has looked decent in preseason, but it's preseason and defenses are vanilla. When the regular season opens we'll see how atrocious that Vikings offensive line is. I also don't like Fornette, like at all. He's going to underwhelm big time!!

 

Now, Mcafferey I don't love him but I do like him. He will get touches no matter what. So, that helps. He is super quick and has blazing open field speed. He could be a top 10 guy at the end of the year. I'm not saying he will, but just that the potential is there.

 

The rookie that I love is Mixon. He's going to beast even with a weak offensive line. 1200 yards and 14 total TD's. Money in the bank!!

[Hawkeye21 1,852]

I'm not high on Cook. I think he has looked decent in preseason, but it's preseason and defenses are vanilla. When the regular season opens we'll see how atrocious that Vikings offensive line is. I also don't like Fornette, like at all. He's going to underwhelm big time!!

 

Now, Mcafferey I don't love him but I do like him. He will get touches no matter what. So, that helps. He is super quick and has blazing open field speed. He could be a top 10 guy at the end of the year. I'm not saying he will, but just that the potential is there.

 

The rookie that I love is Mixon. He's going to beast even with a weak offensive line. 1200 yards and 14 total TD's. Money in the bank!!

 

I don't get your reasoning here. You're not high on Cook because you think his OL is atrocious but you love Mixon even with a weak OL. I think people are over exaggerating how bad the Vikings OL will be this year. Reminds me of all the people that kept saying the Bear's OL was terrible last year yet they ended up finishing in the top half.

[BLS 313]

 

I don't get your reasoning here. You're not high on Cook because you think his OL is atrocious but you love Mixon even with a weak OL. I think people are over exaggerating how bad the Vikings OL will be this year. Reminds me of all the people that kept saying the Bear's OL was terrible last year yet they ended up finishing in the top half.

The Vikes offensive line is pretty bad.

[Maulers1973 117]

 

I don't get your reasoning here. You're not high on Cook because you think his OL is atrocious but you love Mixon even with a weak OL. I think people are over exaggerating how bad the Vikings OL will be this year. Reminds me of all the people that kept saying the Bear's OL was terrible last year yet they ended up finishing in the top half.

 

I might be over-stating that the Bengals line will be weak. I just don't like that they lost their best two guys. They won't be terrible. The Vikings line is terrible! lol

[tanatastic 2,061]

Don't underestimate how much playing together for a year helps an Oline get better.