Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 He starts getting classified CIA national security briefings. It's real, and it's here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566 Posted May 5, 2016 not til hes the actual nomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 not til hes the actual nomination Close enough. He will be getting them soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 5, 2016 Will he set up an illegal private server so he can make secret arms deals with terrorists ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566 Posted May 5, 2016 Close enough. He will be getting them soon. I think there is still something major coming...at least I am holding out. the convention is still like 2 months away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 I think there is still something major coming...at least I am holding out. the convention is still like 2 months away Me too. Maybe Bernie will be getting them too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 Bill Clinton is said to be a great President. His biggest accomplishments were his crime bill, NAFTA, revoking Glass Steagall and welfare reform. Hillary is now running against the first 3. Funny 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 5, 2016 Bill Clinton is said to be a great President. His biggest accomplishments were his crime bill, NAFTA, revoking Glass Steagall and welfare reform. Hillary is now running against the first 3. Funnythis guy gets it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,478 Posted May 5, 2016 Will he sell uranium to Russia in exchange for "speaking fees"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 5, 2016 Will he sell uranium to Russia in exchange for "speaking fees"?don't knock foreign policy experience it's results are irrelevant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted May 5, 2016 Bill Clinton is said to be a great President. His biggest accomplishments were his crime bill, NAFTA, revoking Glass Steagall and welfare reform. Hillary is now running against the first 3. Funny Balancing the budget was a big one. Bubba was mostly fortunate to be president at the absolute right time though, post Cold War and right at the cusp of the tech boom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 Balancing the budget was a big one. Bubba was mostly fortunate to be president at the absolute right time though, post Cold War and right at the cusp of the tech boom. Sure, but that was temporary. The other policies are still with us, and she has to run against them. So she's running against Trump and Bill. Kinda funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted May 5, 2016 Will he set up an illegal private server so he can make secret arms deals with terrorists ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 5, 2016 yeah, I know your the most uninformed ass clown here, no worries. Go watch wrastlin Zero footprint....it's a tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted May 5, 2016 yeah, I know your the most uninformed ass clown here, no worries. Go watch wrastlin Zero footprint....it's a tip Birther clown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted May 5, 2016 Sure, but that was temporary. The other policies are still with us, and she has to run against them. So she's running against Trump and Bill. Kinda funny. To be fair, she hates both of them. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 And she has to run against Obamas trade deal and his coddling of Wall Street. So, it's her against Bill, Obama, and Trump. I bet she's wishing it was another Bushtard or generic republican she was lined up against, because they would all be for those things. Can't even use Social Security, Trump isn't talking about getting rid of it like most republicans. Laugh at Trump, but on the issues she's got her work cut out for her. Those debates are not going to be the slam dunk they would have been against your typical GOP candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 5, 2016 Birther clown yeah that's it, wrastlin boy. Hillary set up her server for convenience stay clueless my friend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted May 5, 2016 Sure, but that was temporary. The other policies are still with us, and she has to run against them. So she's running against Trump and Bill. Kinda funny. It didn't have to be temporary - we blew it on tax cuts and a ton of dumb spending. Just saying balancing the budget was probably Clinton's biggest accomplishment. Not that it has anything to do with Hillary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 5, 2016 How will he explain away his sudden taking of hundreds of millions of "special interest" money? Or will that become a cool "outsider" thing to do, like insulting people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 5, 2016 It didn't have to be temporary - we blew it on tax cuts and a ton of dumb spending. wars and tax cuts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted May 5, 2016 wars and tax cuts I included "dumb spending" as a catch all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted May 5, 2016 It didn't have to be temporary - we blew it on tax cuts and a ton of dumb spending. Just saying balancing the budget was probably Clinton's biggest accomplishment. Not that it has anything to do with Hillary. Not to be argumentative...really. But he wasn't able to accomplish that without getting Congress to agree to raid the Social Security Trust Fund in order to do so. Essentially they stole from SS in order to balance the budget. I guess in my book that's not really balancing the checkbook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 Not to be argumentative...really. But he wasn't able to accomplish that without getting Congress to agree to raid the Social Security Trust Fund in order to do so. Essentially they stole from SS in order to balance the budget. I guess in my book that's not really balancing the checkbook. Ding ding ding! And now they have the balls to say that SS contributes to the defecit! Yeah, no , you owe them all the money you took. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,010 Posted May 5, 2016 Not to be argumentative...really. But he wasn't able to accomplish that without getting Congress to agree to raid the Social Security Trust Fund in order to do so. Essentially they stole from SS in order to balance the budget. I guess in my book that's not really balancing the checkbook. The Social Security Act of 1935 created an “Old-Aged Reserve Account” in the Treasury and required that every year an amount determined sufficient to pay that year’s benefits was to be appropriated to it. Any of this money not needed for benefits was to be invested in federal debt (including unmarketable debt issued for this purpose) earning 3 percent interest, or other government-guaranteed debt.4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 5, 2016 Not to be argumentative...really. But he wasn't able to accomplish that without getting Congress to agree to raid the Social Security Trust Fund in order to do so. Essentially they stole from SS in order to balance the budget. I guess in my book that's not really balancing the checkbook. someone gets it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 The Social Security Act of 1935 created an Old-Aged Reserve Account in the Treasury and required that every year an amount determined sufficient to pay that years benefits was to be appropriated to it. Any of this money not needed for benefits was to be invested in federal debt (including unmarketable debt issued for this purpose) earning 3 percent interest, or other government-guaranteed debt.4 Ok, so pay it back then. Or at least stop saying it's broke. And definetly stop saying it's causing the defecit when it has a surplus. And why are they borrowing at 3 pct but lending to the banks at 0-1 pct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted May 5, 2016 Not to be argumentative...really. But he wasn't able to accomplish that without getting Congress to agree to raid the Social Security Trust Fund in order to do so. Essentially they stole from SS in order to balance the budget. I guess in my book that's not really balancing the checkbook. See Honcho's reply above. For a party that pays so much lip service to the debt the GOP is remarkably stubborn in not crediting the last man to actually balance the books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted May 5, 2016 See Honcho's reply above. For a party that pays so much lip service to the debt the GOP is remarkably stubborn in not crediting the last man to actually balance the books. Stealing from a pile of money every year that isn't really 'yours' does not qualify as balancing the budget in my book. While his intentions may have been good, he went about it in what I would consider a very poor way. Now, you may not agree. And that's fine. But when SS runs out (and it WILL run out), the powder keg will be lit and I doubt it'll be pretty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 313 Posted May 5, 2016 Ok, so pay it back then. Or at least stop saying it's broke. And definetly stop saying it's causing the defecit when it has a surplus. And why are they borrowing at 3 pct but lending to the banks at 0-1 pct? The government doesn't lend to the banks. The central bank does. And they can do it because they can literally create currency any time they wish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 5, 2016 The government doesn't lend to the banks. The central bank does. And they can do it because they can literally create currency any time they wish. in the United States, the central bank is known as the federal reserve. The treasury allows money to be printed and the federal reserve then lends it out. And the money is paid back, at a rate set by fed. The federal reserve is not a governmental agency, it is a private one. It's chairman is appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted May 5, 2016 Stealing from a pile of money every year that isn't really 'yours' does not qualify as balancing the budget in my book. While his intentions may have been good, he went about it in what I would consider a very poor way. Now, you may not agree. And that's fine. But when SS runs out (and it WILL run out), the powder keg will be lit and I doubt it'll be pretty. Amazing how no other president has ever used this stealing from SS to balance the budget approach. You'd think Republicans who hate SS and love balanced budgets might have tried it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted May 5, 2016 Paul Ryan declines to support Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/05/05/paul-ryan-declines-to-support-donald-trump-im-not-there-right-now/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pp-ryan-trump-430pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted May 5, 2016 Paul Ryan declines to support Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/05/05/paul-ryan-declines-to-support-donald-trump-im-not-there-right-now/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pp-ryan-trump-430pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory Wow, dude is speaker of the house and won't support his own party's nominee for president. That's really something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 6, 2016 Wow, dude is speaker of the house and won't support his own party's nominee for president. That's really something Wow. Ryan couldn't stop Romney from getting trounced in Wisconsin, his home state, when he ran as VP. That's what's really something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted May 6, 2016 http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/05/hillary_clinton_s_trump_attack_ads_hit_him_from_both_sides.html Wow. Even the Clinton haters have to admit these are amongst the 2 most effective attack ads they've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted May 6, 2016 http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/05/hillary_clinton_s_trump_attack_ads_hit_him_from_both_sides.html Wow. Even the Clinton haters have to admit these are amongst the 2 most effective attack ads they've ever seen. Wait, those are anti Trump ads? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,555 Posted May 6, 2016 Paul Ryan declines to support Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/05/05/paul-ryan-declines-to-support-donald-trump-im-not-there-right-now/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_pp-ryan-trump-430pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory Saw that one coming. Neither are any of the Bushes. I like the dad but both of his sons can go fock themselves and/or each other. I don't blame them though although I fully agreed with every word Trump spoke of those pair of morons, I wouldn't expect them to have the same reaction. Romney would shock to not be on this list in the next few days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,911 Posted May 6, 2016 We are a trillion dollars more in debt over the last six months. Someone caved and we are to blame. Who caved? When our kids take control of this mess we've left them, I hope they punish us accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,010 Posted May 6, 2016 Stealing from a pile of money every year that isn't really 'yours' does not qualify as balancing the budget in my book. While his intentions may have been good, he went about it in what I would consider a very poor way. Now, you may not agree. And that's fine. But when SS runs out (and it WILL run out), the powder keg will be lit and I doubt it'll be pretty. The Social Security Act of 1935 created an Old-Aged Reserve Account in the Treasury and required that every year an amount determined sufficient to pay that years benefits was to be appropriated to it. Any of this money not needed for benefits was to be invested in federal debt (including unmarketable debt issued for this purpose) earning 3 percent interest, or other government-guaranteed debt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites