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#1 cyclone24

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:34 AM

https://www.cbsnews....impression=true


Imagine that. The little girl crying Who crossed here illegally and broke our laws wasn't separated from her mother at all.

The mother is right next to her being searched. At no point was the kid abandon. And this is the Liberals poster child for awful Trump that we now see on Time Magazine.

Pathetic.
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:39 AM

I want the problem of illegals solved as much as anyone, it costs US taxpayers over 100 Billion dollars annually. All that being said, can we admit that the policy was at least a tactical error on the administrations part?  You take a little blowback on it and you move on to the next potential solution.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:42 AM

It won't matter to the left.....they'll move onto the next narrative.

BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:42 AM

The whole scenario I think is Trump doing Trump.  He sees something and exploits it.  There is a flaw in an existing policy, and to draw attention to it he used it to demonstrate it.  If it causes some heartache, he's willing to hurt people's feelings to do that.  Right or wrong.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:43 AM

But, but....it doesnt matter if this particular family wasnt separated. This picture represents the thousands of kids who ARE separated.

#6 Sho Nuff

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:43 AM

Its a photo in a magazine. Which is then about the overall atory.

So what?

#7 cyclone24

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:44 AM

Its a photo in a magazine. Which is then about the overall atory.

So what?

No it's a photo on the cover of a national magazine that portrays the president not caring about a little girl who the left has tried to pound into their idiot base that are getting separated every time they come across the border. It's narrative. And it's a false one
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#8 Mike Honcho

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:47 AM

No it's a photo on the cover of a national magazine that portrays the president not caring about a little girl who the left has tried to pound into their idiot base that are getting separated every time they come across the border. It's narrative. And it's a false one

 

OMG, they used symbolism, the horror...the horror.     



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:50 AM

Its a photo in a magazine. Which is then about the overall atory.

So what?

It's called Fake News.  The left needs it apparently. 


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:53 AM

 
OMG, they used symbolism....the horror...the horror.     


Please.......Symbolism of a girl crying with the subject that makes people assume she's separated from her parents.

Kind of like putting a picture of you alongside an article about midget denderpheliacs.

BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


#11 cyclone24

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:53 AM

And just look at the board lefties come out and defend false narratives. Why am I not surprised?
If they aren't outraged by something which is extraordinarily rare they just manufacture it.
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#12 cyclone24

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:54 AM

Please.......Symbolism of a girl crying with the subject that makes people assume she's separated from her parents.

Kind of like putting a picture of you alongside an article about midget denderpheliacs.


Time has even come out and said that the photo with Trump is supposed to show his indifference. You need anything else?
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#13 Mike Honcho

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:56 AM

And just look at the board lefties come out and defend false narratives. Why am I not surprised?
If they aren't outraged by something which is extraordinarily rare they just manufacture it.

 

Are you for real?   How about the false narrative that this was a Democratic Law?  How about that false narrative that the President couldn't do anything to change it?  Give me a break, you don't have a leg to stand on in that regard.  You guys are ridiculous.   :rolleyes:



#14 cyclone24

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:58 AM

 
Are you for real?   How about the false narrative that this was a Democratic Law?  How about that false narrative that the President couldn't do anything to change it?  Give me a break, you don't have a leg to stand on in that regard.  You guys are ridiculous.   :rolleyes:

It's always funny. If he uses executive orders than he's being a tyrant. Unless it's a law you don't like and then it's his fault he didn't change it.

This is not Trump's law. He's just enforcing it. Just because Obama never enforced laws doesn't mean it wasn't there. Just because you're okay with skirting laws or ones you don't like doesn't mean you care more.
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#15 Sho Nuff

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 06:59 AM

No it's a photo on the cover of a national magazine that portrays the president not caring about a little girl who the left has tried to pound into their idiot base that are getting separated every time they come across the border. It's narrative. And it's a false one


He doesnt care. He wanted the upheaval...he wanted pain to be a deterrent.
The narrative is spot on.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:00 AM

It's called Fake News.  The left needs it apparently. 

Its actually not fake news unless they had a whole story that was fake about the girl.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:01 AM

I thought they said they could use an Executive Order to change it?



#18 Sho Nuff

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:01 AM

It's always funny. If he uses executive orders than he's being a tyrant. Unless it's a law you don't like and then it's his fault he didn't change it.

This is not Trump's law. He's just enforcing it. Just because Obama never enforced laws doesn't mean it wasn't there. Just because you're okay with skirting laws or ones you don't like doesn't mean you care more.


He chose to enforce it this way...his administration chose to separate families...so yes, he was using a false narrative.
And the narrative of indifference isnt false at all in the first place.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:02 AM

The liberal media is the enemy of the people. Today's media is nothing more than political propagandist hacks.
They and their lemming followers don't give a rats ass about these kids.
They are the lowest of the low.
Many hang here.

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#20 cyclone24

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:04 AM

He chose to enforce it this way...his administration chose to separate families...so yes, he was using a false narrative.
And the narrative of indifference isnt false at all in the first place.


What family's? Most of these kids are not with their families and sometimes without families at all. Again false narrative.

Heck keep them together. Keep them together as you send them back to where they came from until they come here the correct way.

Yep he's in different. That's why he signed an executive order And is pushing for bills to come to his desk to fix it. I agree he did this to get the ball moving but holy crap look how fast bills came to the table once he did this.
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#21 Hawkeye21

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:08 AM

The liberal media is the enemy of the people. Today's media is nothing more than political propagandist hacks.
They and their lemming followers don't give a rats ass about these kids.
They are the lowest of the low.
Many hang here.

Scumbags

 

I agree that the Liberal media is not helping but I really believe the same can be said for Conservative media.  Aren't both sides guilty?



#22 Sho Nuff

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:09 AM

The liberal media is the enemy of the people. Today's media is nothing more than political propagandist hacks.
They and their lemming followers don't give a rats ass about these kids.
They are the lowest of the low.
Many hang here.

Scumbags

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:10 AM

Tactical error, I suspect they likely saw this as a deterrent measure, something to intimidate people crossing illegally.  Poorly conceived decision that did not account for the weakened state of society.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:11 AM

He doesnt care. He wanted the upheaval...he wanted pain to be a deterrent.
The narrative is spot on.


The situation was created by Obama. Put blame where it belongs.

BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


#25 Sho Nuff

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:12 AM

What family's? Most of these kids are not with their families and sometimes without families at all. Again false narrative.

Heck keep them together. Keep them together as you send them back to where they came from until they come here the correct way.

Yep he's in different. That's why he signed an executive order And is pushing for bills to come to his desk to fix it. I agree he did this to get the ball moving but holy crap look how fast bills came to the table once he did this.

He signed an executive order because he was losing the PR battle. He is pushing bills that limit legal immigration and fund his idiotic wall. He had bills to help fix some of this months ago...had a deal with Schumer...til his boy Miller got in his ear and Donnie made someone else call Schumer back and tell him no.

#26 cyclone24

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:16 AM

He signed an executive order because he was losing the PR battle. He is pushing bills that limit legal immigration and fund his idiotic wall. He had bills to help fix some of this months ago...had a deal with Schumer...til his boy Miller got in his ear and Donnie made someone else call Schumer back and tell him no.


Hahaha... Just pure speculative gibberish.

The left has refused everything that has had the wall included and you know that. Because God forbid the Democrats don't have this as an issue to cry about in 2020.

I mean seriously call your own side here. And it is your side. If Trump solves immigration you guys literally have no platform to run on.

Democrats have two cards to play. How awful Trump is with immigration. and trying to fix the healthcare system which is a problem they created in the first place. Or I guess you could go back to Old trusty racism again?
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:17 AM

The situation was created by Obama. Put blame where it belongs.

 

I think it was a terrible idea then and it's remains a terrible idea now.  Is that acceptable here or can only one of Trump and Obama be right or wrong?  I think they were both wrong.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:18 AM

Trump losing the PR war?! He just took away a huge issue for the mid terms. That is why the democrats are furious with him.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:20 AM

Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798

Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952

Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 

Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) 1986

Immigration Act of 1990

Patriot Act of 2001

 

 

How about we agree that this country doesn't know what it wants and doesn't know how to write a damn law.


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#30 Filthy Fernadez

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:22 AM

 
I think it was a terrible idea then and it's remains a terrible idea now.  Is that acceptable here or can only one of Trump and Obama be right or wrong?  I think they were both wrong.


Trump is merely following through on his promise to end illegal immigration. It is the parents that are sending these kids alone that are to blame.

Obamma was doing the Kachin released krapp that lead More and more of these kids to be sent here alone

BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:25 AM

Trump is merely following through on his promise to end illegal immigration. It is the parents that are sending these kids alone that are to blame.

Obamma was doing the Kachin released krapp that lead More and more of these kids to be sent here alone

 

I agree that the parents are to blame but I do have some sympathy for them.  It's easy for use to say all of this from our comfy lives in the US.  I can't imagine what it would be like to be stuck in a country I don't want to be in.  To be so desperate to be willing to send your child to the US for a better live with the risk of never seeing them again.  It's sad.  I wish Mexico was in a better situation so that their people didn't feel the need to flee.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:28 AM

Hahaha... Just pure speculative gibberish.

The left has refused everything that has had the wall included and you know that. Because God forbid the Democrats don't have this as an issue to cry about in 2020.

I mean seriously call your own side here. And it is your side. If Trump solves immigration you guys literally have no platform to run on.

Democrats have two cards to play. How awful Trump is with immigration. and trying to fix the healthcare system which is a problem they created in the first place. Or I guess you could go back to Old trusty racism again?


Democrats did not create the healthcare problem. It was a problem before the ACA. The ACA didnt solve everything. It helped in some areas and made others worse. It was necessary step to change the bull shlt system that was already in place. Its unfortunate that our government cant adjust the ACA to be more suitable to this countries needs.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:32 AM

Democrats did not create the healthcare problem. It was a problem before the ACA. The ACA didnt solve everything. It helped in some areas and made others worse. It was necessary step to change the bull shlt system that was already in place. Its unfortunate that our government cant adjust the ACA to be more suitable to this countries needs.


It was a major problem that they managed to take and by trying to make it government-run Healthcare made it a massive crippling failure of a problem that now has to be fixed.
Sure made it great for people that like to run to the emergency room when they have a cold I suppose.
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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:33 AM

 
I agree that the parents are to blame but I do have some sympathy for them.  It's easy for use to say all of this from our comfy lives in the US.  I can't imagine what it would be like to be stuck in a country I don't want to be in.  To be so desperate to be willing to send your child to the US for a better live with the risk of never seeing them again.  It's sad.  I wish Mexico was in a better situation so that their people didn't feel the need to flee.


I have sympathy for all That's who want a better life for their kids but it has to be done legally and certainly in a way that keeps the child they purport to care for in the safest manner.

BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:37 AM

When was the last time the left reported something correctly?

1800s? Early 1900s? Never?

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:38 AM

Holy hypocrisy Batman. This is flat out pathetic. I saw last night before I went to bed that the picture was fake but wanted to wait til I could see better sources. The fact that it is indeed and the board liberals are actually defending it says all you need to know. Jesus Christ trump could literally cure cancer and libs would STILL be pissed.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:38 AM

I have sympathy for all That's who want a better life for their kids but it has to be done legally and certainly in a way that keeps the child they purport to care for in the safest manner.

 

The problem is we don't have a very good system in place right now to help with this.  People are being turned away and being told they have to wait months.  I'm not sure some of these families feel they can wait that long so they go to extreme measures.  I couldn't imagine being in their situation that I was that desperate.  I am by no means on expert on this and I wish I knew what could be done better to fix the issue.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:40 AM

It was a major problem that they managed to take and by trying to make it government-run Healthcare made it a massive crippling failure of a problem that now has to be fixed.
Sure made it great for people that like to run to the emergency room when they have a cold I suppose.


It did more than that. The practice of not allowing someone with a "pre existing condition" to obtain coverage for that condition was made illegal. Children being able to stay on parents insurance until 26 was another huge positive step. It also added more things that insurers had to cover.

I just want the Gov to build on that. I dont get why it's so difficult. Or at least keep the positives of the ACA in place.

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:41 AM

:lol:  at the lefty trainwreck. They didn't even do research to see if the child was crying because of being separated. Sure the picture is simply a symbol but at least attempt to get something right. All they did was use the 1st picture they found of a child crying while looking up. What a bunch of losers.


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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:43 AM

 
The problem is we don't have a very good system in place right now to help with this.  People are being turned away and being told they have to wait months.  I'm not sure some of these families feel they can wait that long so they go to extreme measures.  I couldn't imagine being in their situation that I was that desperate.  I am by no means on expert on this and I wish I knew what could be done better to fix the issue.

We can't take in everyone who wants out of the country they're in. And I'd rather they vet the people (including merit based) than speed up the process to our country's detriment. I view it as looking out for the actual citizens of this country BEFORE trying to look out for immigrants.

BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.