What if it's found that Trump did help the Russians

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Because Assange is a liar and asset of Russian intelligence?

They interviewed Hillary so apparently the FBI is willing to take a chance on a dubious source.

 

Wikileaks 100% accurate....

[drobeski 3,061]

How about link your claim first.

Mine is pretty well known.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/394036-How-Comey-intervened-to-kill-Wikileaks-immunity-deal

 

 

One of the more devastating intelligence leaks in American history - the unmasking of the CIA's arsenal of cyber warfare weapons last year - has an untold prelude worthy of a spy novel.

 

Some of the characters are household names, thanks to the Russia scandal: James Comey, fired FBI director. Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Department of Justice (DOJ) official Bruce Ohr. Julian Assange, grand master of WikiLeaks. And American attorney Adam Waldman, who has a Forrest Gump-like penchant for showing up in major cases of intrigue.

 

Each played a role in the early days of the Trump administration to try to get Assange to agree to "risk mitigation" - essentially, limiting some classified CIA information he might release in the future.

 

 

 

 

 

The effort resulted in the drafting of a limited immunity deal that might have temporarily freed the WikiLeaks founder from a London embassy where he has been exiled for years, according to interviews and a trove of internal DOJ documents turned over to Senate investigators. Read the draft immunity deal proffer that the Justice Department was considering for Assange here.

 

 

But an unexpected intervention by Comey - relayed through Warner - soured the negotiations, multiple sources tell me. Assange eventually unleashed a series of leaks that U.S. officials say damaged their cyber warfare capabilities for a long time to come.

 

This yarn begins in January 2017 when Assange's legal team approached Waldman - known for his government connections - to see if the new Trump administration would negotiate with the WikiLeaks founder, holed up in Ecuador's London embassy. They hoped Waldman, a former Clinton Justice Department official, might navigate the U.S. law enforcement bureaucracy and find the right people to engage.

 

 

 

Waldman had helped Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska to assist the FBI from 2009 to 2011 in searching for a retired FBI agent captured in Iran; the FBI rewarded Deripaska by granting him entry to the United States after years of being banned. Waldman also arranged evidence from Hollywood players such as Johnny Depp that helped prosecutors in a U.S. corruption case against Malaysian figures, sources told me.

 

Waldman was asked by Assange's team to work pro bono, and he did.

 

Assange had a bargaining chip: The U.S. government knew he had a massive trove of documents from classified CIA computers, identifying sensitive assets and chronicling the agency's offensive cyber warfare weapons.

 

 

 

Waldman contacted Ohr, a Justice official he'd met during the Russia election case. They talked by phone and encrypted text messages in early January, then met Feb. 3, 2017, in Washington, records show. In between, Waldman met three times with Assange in London.

 

 

 

Ohr consulted his chain of command and the intelligence community about what appeared to be an extraordinary overture that raised hopes the government could negotiate what Assange would release and what he might redact, to protect the names of exposed U.S. officials.

 

 

 

Assange made clear through the lawyer that he would never compromise his sources, or stop publishing information, but was willing to consider concessions like redactions.

 

Although the intelligence community reviled Assange for the damage his past releases caused, officials "understood any visibility into his thinking, any opportunity to negotiate any redactions, was in the national security interest and worth taking," says a senior official involved at the time.

 

Justice officials picked David Laufman, an accomplished federal prosecutor and then head of Justice's counterintelligence and export controls section, to lead the negotiations. Within 24 hours of the Ohr meeting, Waldman contacted Laufman.

 

 

 

Laufman described what the government might want to achieve, and Waldman laid the groundwork for a deal to give Assange limited immunity and a one-time "safe passage" to leave the London embassy and talk with U.S. officials. Laufman played to Assange's belief that he was a publisher, the documents show; he put an offer on the table from the intelligence community to help Assange assess how some hostile foreign powers might be infiltrating or harming WikiLeaks staff.

 

As the negotiations warmed, Assange unleashed his first leak on March 7, 2017, with about 8,000 pages of documents on the CIA's cyber weapons. It did not deter the talks, however, since U.S. officials were more concerned about what he might release next.

 

"Dear David, I relayed our conversations to Assange and he had a generally positive view of it," Waldman wrote Laufman in mid-March.

 

The shuttle diplomacy soon resulted in an informal offer - known in government parlance as a "Queen for a Day" proffer - in which Assange identified what he wanted and what he might give.

 

 

 

"Subject to adequate and binding protections, including but not limited to an acceptable immunity and safe passage agreement, Mr. Assange welcomes the opportunity to discuss with the U.S. government risk mitigation approaches relating to CIA documents in WikiLeaks' possession or control, such as the redaction of agency personnel in hostile jurisdictions and foreign espionage risks to WikiLeaks staff," Waldman wrote Laufman on March 28, 2017.

 

Not included in the written proffer was an additional offer from Assange: He was willing to discuss technical evidence ruling out certain parties in the controversial leak of Democratic Party emails to WikiLeaks during the 2016 election. The U.S. government believes those emails were hacked by Russia; Assange insists they did not come from Moscow.

 

"Mr. Assange offered to provide technical evidence and discussion regarding who did not engage in the DNC releases," Waldman told me. "Finally, he offered his technical expertise to the U.S. government to help address what he perceived as clear flaws in security systems that led to the loss of the U.S. cyber weapons program."

 

Inside Justice and the intelligence community, confidence grew that perhaps the mercurial Assange might adapt how he released classified information.

 

"As we give continued consideration to the substance of your proposed proffer, please clarify a procedural point," Laufman wrote Waldman in early April. The government wanted to know if Assange's demand for "safe passage" meant him coming to America, or just leaving the London embassy for meetings there.

 

What U.S. officials did not fully comprehend was that an earlier event weighed heavily on the Assange team's distrust of U.S. intentions.

 

 

 

Just a few days after the negotiations opened in mid-February, Waldman reached out to Sen. Warner; the lawyer wanted to see if Senate Intelligence Committee staff wanted any contact with Assange, to ask about Russia or other issues.

 

Warner engaged with Waldman over encrypted text messages, then reached out to Comey. A few days later, Warner contacted Waldman with an unexpected plea.

 

 

 

"He told me he had just talked with Comey and that, while the government was appreciative of my efforts, my instructions were to stand down, to end the discussions with Assange," Waldman told me. Waldman offered contemporaneous documents to show he memorialized Warner's exact words.

 

Waldman couldn't believe a U.S. senator and the FBI chief were sending a different signal, so he went back to Laufman, who assured him the negotiations were still on. "What Laufman said to me after he heard I was told to 'stand down' by Warner and Comey was, 'That's bullshit. You are not standing down and neither am I,'" Waldman recalled.

 

A source familiar with Warner's interactions says the senator's contact on the Assange matter was limited and was shared with Senate Intelligence chairman Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.). But the source acknowledges that Warner consulted Comey and passed along the "stand down" instructions to Waldman: "That did happen."

 

Multiple sources tell me the FBI's counterintelligence team was aware and engaged in the Justice Department's strategy but could not explain what motivated Comey to send a different message around the negotiations through Warner. A lawyer for Comey did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

 

While the negotiations survived the Warner-Comey intervention, the episode sowed distrust in Assange's camp.

 

"The constructive, principled discussions with DOJ that occurred over nearly two months were complicated by the confusing 'stand down' message," Waldman recalled.

 

On April 7, 2017, Assange released documents with the specifics of some of the CIA malware used for cyber attacks. It had immediate impact: A furious U.S. government backed out of the negotiations, and then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo slammed WikiLeaks as a "hostile intelligence service."

 

Soon, the rare opportunity to engage Assange in a dialogue over redactions, a more responsible way to release information, and how the infamous DNC hacks occurred was lost - likely forever.

 

John Solomon is an award-winning investigative journalist whose work over the years has exposed U.S. and FBI intelligence failures before the Sept. 11 attacks, federal scientists' misuse of foster children and veterans in drug experiments, and numerous cases of political corruption. He is The Hill's executive vice president for video

[Sho Nuff 719]

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/speeches-testimony/2017-speeches-testimony/pompeo-delivers-remarks-at-csis.html

 

And that is one of the many reasons why we at CIA find the celebration of entities like WikiLeaks to be both perplexing and deeply troubling. Because while we do our best to quietly collect information on those who pose very real threats to our country, individuals such as Julian Assange and Edward Snowden seek to use that information to make a name for themselves. As long as they make a splash, they care nothing about the lives they put at risk or the damage they cause to national security.

 

WikiLeaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile intelligence service. It has encouraged its followers to find jobs at CIA in order to obtain intelligence. It directed Chelsea Manning in her theft of specific secret information. And it overwhelmingly focuses on the United States, while seeking support from anti-democratic countries and organizations.

 

It is time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia. In January of this year, our Intelligence Community determined that Russian military intelligencethe GRUhad used WikiLeaks to release data of US victims that the GRU had obtained through cyber operations against the Democratic National Committee. And the report also found that Russias primary propaganda outlet, RT, has actively collaborated with WikiLeaks.

 

Now, for those of you who read the editorial page of the Washington Postand I have a feeling that many of you in this room doyesterday you would have seen a piece of sophistry penned by Mr. Assange. You would have read a convoluted mass of words wherein Assange compared himself to Thomas Jefferson, Dwight Eisenhower, and the Pulitzer Prize-winning work of legitimate news organizations such as the New York Times and the Washington Post. One can only imagine the absurd comparisons that the original draft contained.

 

Assange claims to harbor an overwhelming admiration for both America and the idea of America. But I assure you that this man knows nothing of America and our ideals. He knows nothing of our third President, whose clarion call for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness continue to inspire us and the world. And he knows nothing of our 34th President, a hero from my very own Kansas, who helped to liberate Europe from fascists and guided America through the early years of the Cold War.

 

No, I am quite confident that had Assange been around in the 1930s and 40s and 50s, he would have found himself on the wrong side of history.

 

We know this because Assange and his ilk make common cause with dictators today. Yes, they try unsuccessfully to cloak themselves and their actions in the language of liberty and privacy; in reality, however, they champion nothing but their own celebrity. Their currency is clickbait; their moral compass, nonexistent. Their mission: personal self-aggrandizement through the destruction of Western values.

 

They do not care about the causes and people they claim to represent. If they did, they would focus instead on the autocratic regimes in this world that actually suppress free speech and dissent. Instead, they choose to exploit the legitimate secrets of democratic governmentswhich has, so far, proven to be a much safer approach than provoking a tyrant.

 

Clearly, these individuals are not especially burdened by conscience. We know this, for example, because Assange has been more than cavalier in disclosing the personal information of scores of innocent citizens around the globe. We know this because the damage they have done to the security and safety of the free world is tangible. And the examples are numerous.

 

When Snowden absconded to the comfortable clutches of Russian intelligence, his treachery directly harmed a wide range of US intelligence and military operations. Despite what he claims, he is no whistleblower. True whistleblowers use the well-established and discreet processes in place to voice grievances; they do not put American lives at risk.

 

In fact, a colleague of ours at NSA recently explained that more than a thousand foreign targetspeople, groups, organizationsmore than a thousand of them changed or tried to change how they communicated as a result of the Snowden disclosures. That number is staggering.

 

And the bottom line is that it became harder for us in the Intelligence Community to keep Americans safe. It became harder to monitor the communications of terrorist organizations that are bent on bringing bloodshed to our shores. Snowdens disclosures helped these groups find ways to hide themselves in the crowded digital forest.

 

Even in those cases where we were able to regain our ability to collect, the damage was already done. We work in a business with budgetary and time constraints. The effort to earn back access that we previously possessed meant that we had less time to look for new threats.

 

As for Assange, his actions have attracted a devoted following among some of our most determined enemies. Following a recent WikiLeaks disclosure, an al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula member posted a comment online thanking WikiLeaks for providing a means to fight America in a way that AQAP had not previously envisioned.

 

AQAP represents one of the most serious terrorist threats to our country and the world. It is a group that is devoted not only to bringing down civilian passenger planes, but our way of life as well. That Assange is the darling of terrorists is nothing short of reprehensible.

 

Have no doubt that the disclosures in recent years caused harmgreat harmto our nations security, and they will continue to do so over the long term. They threaten the trust weve developed with our foreign partners when trust is a crucial currency among allies. They risk damaging morale for the good officers of the Intelligence Community who take the high road every day. And I cant stress enough how these disclosures have severely hindered our ability to keep all Americans safe.

 

No, Julian Assange and his kind are not the slightest bit interested in improving civil liberties or enhancing personal freedom. They have pretended that Americas First Amendment freedoms shield them from justice. They may have believed that, but they are wrong.

 

Assange is a narcissist who has created nothing of value. He relies on the dirty work of others to make himself famous. He is a frauda coward hiding behind a screen.

 

And in Kansas, we know something about false Wizards.

 

But Im not the only one who knows what Assange really is. Even those who often benefit from Assanges leaks have called him out for his overblown statements. The Intercept, which in the past has gleefully reported on unauthorized disclosures, accused WikiLeaks in late March of stretching the facts in its comments about CIA. In the same article, the Intercept added that the documents were not worth the concern WikiLeaks generated by its public comments.

Him almost getting immunity was squashed for good reason...and it wasnt about Seth Rich or idiotic crap about the deep state.

He is an untrustworthy jackholes who works in conjunction with Russian interests and puts Americans in danger.

[Baker Boy 1,477]

Judge tosses suit alleging Trump campaign conspired with Russians in hack: report

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/04/judge-tosses-suit-alleging-trump-campaign-conspired-with-russians-in-hack-report.html

[SenatorRock 708]

I wonder what sho's wife thinks of his derangement.

[SenatorRock 708]

Muh Russians.

 

2+ years and all they have to show is a few Twitter trolls.

 

Has there ever been a more pathetic example of government waste?

[cbfalcon 824]

Muh Russians.

 

2+ years and all they have to show is a few Twitter trolls.

 

Has there ever been a more pathetic example of government waste?

 

They've also opened the eyes of Americans to message board trolls, so that's something.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

They've also opened the eyes of Americans to message board trolls, so that's something.

Thier eyes were closed all through both Obama campaigns. Those started the trolling, but as always no one cared.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Muh Russians.

 

2+ years and all they have to show is a few Twitter trolls.

 

Has there ever been a more pathetic example of government waste?

Maralago trips, Trumps kids trips, Pruitt, the Benghazi investigation.

Your entire post is laughably ignorant and trolly.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Thier eyes were closed all through both Obama campaigns. Those started the trolling, but as always no one cared.

Nah...we knew Hawker and others were trolls then too. More popped up since then like Rock and Hand and Max...

[iam90sbaby 2,120]

If you voted for Hillary you should go and get your balls chopped off.

[12th Man 884]

Nah...we knew Hawker and others were trolls then too. More popped up since then like Rock and Hand and Max...

hurry up block everyone! Poosay who cant handle opposition opinions

[Baker Boy 1,477]

Maralago trips, Trumps kids trips, Pruitt, the Benghazi investigation.

Your entire post is laughably ignorant and trolly.

Where is the collusion?

[Sho Nuff 719]

Where is the collusion?

Where did my post address that? Mueller is investigating that...among other things. But you can hold onto a judgement against two donors who were idiots to bring a ridiculous lawsuit.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,491]

hurry up block everyone! Poosay who cant handle opposition opinions

 

The irony is that he acts as if he isn't a troll. There's a reason why nobody likes Slo.

[Mr. Hand 482]

The irony is that he acts as if he isn't a troll. There's a reason why nobody likes Slo.

There are many reasons Sho is ridiculed here. He’s nuts too.

[Vince44 202]

Muh Russians.

2+ years and all they have to show is a few Twitter trolls.

Has there ever been a more pathetic example of government waste?

Cohen will flip. Be prepared.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,491]

Cohen will flip. Be prepared.

 

Well, you should be used to disappointment. Every "WE GOT 'EEEM!" your side has shouted every other week for the last two years has turned out to blow up in your faces and make you a further laughing stock.

 

It's more like "

"

[Vince44 202]

Well, you should be used to disappointment. Every "WE GOT 'EEEM!" your side has shouted every other week for the last two years has turned out to blow up in your faces and make you a further laughing stock.

 

It's more like "

"

Calm down, Max. Just giving you Trump lovers a fair warning. Cohen is looking out for himself now based on recent comments.

 

Time to flip. Secrets will be revealed.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,491]

Calm down, Max. Just giving you Trump lovers a fair warning. Cohen is looking out for himself now based on recent comments.

 

Time to flip. Secrets will be revealed.

 

You're the one that can't container your glee, Squis.

 

I'm just trying to bring you back to down to earth so you won't meltdown like you did during the 2016 election (and every week since). I hope you invested in Kimberly-Clark with the amount of tissues you've gone thru and will go thru after this doesn't go your way either.

 

As for me? I'll take President Pence or President Ryan too!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Calm down, Max. Just giving you Trump lovers a fair warning. Cohen is looking out for himself now based on recent comments.

 

Time to flip. Secrets will be revealed.

 

You're like the guy rifling through his mail, getting excited every time you see the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes saying

 

'You won $20,000,000 a year for life (if your number matches ________)

 

Give it up FFS. At this point if you can't see the only serious investigation being run is a huge counter operation being run against Trump's enemies you're a fool.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,491]

 

You're like the guy rifling through his mail, getting excited every time you see the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes saying

 

'You won $20,000,000 a year for life (if your number matches ________)

 

Give it up FFS. At this point if you can't see the only serious investigation being run is a huge counter operation being run against Trump's enemies you're a fool.

 

Vary apt analogy. He gets suckered every time.

 

This should end his posting.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,491]

Oh, . Wiff and his girl Sho are going to go hysterical now:

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/03/trump-dnc-hacking-693965

 

Judge tosses suit alleging Trump campaign conspired with Russia in DNC hack.

 

Yet another WE GOT 'EEM!!!! ends in failure.

[LOD01 185]

at Russians interfering in US elections. Who here got manipulated by Russia? They never called me.

[drobeski 3,061]

at Russians interfering in US elections. Who here got manipulated by Russia? They never called me.

they are so good at it, you dont even realize they got you.

[Baker Boy 1,477]

at Russians interfering in US elections. Who here got manipulated by Russia? They never called me.

Yet Obama did the same thing during the Israeli Elections.

 

What lies did Russia spread about Hillary?

 

They didnt call me either.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

at Russians interfering in US elections. Who here got manipulated by Russia? They never called me.

They stopped Hillary from going to Wisconsin and Michigan.

[LOD01 185]

They stopped Hillary from going to Wisconsin and Michigan.

Pretty sure it was her idea actually. No way she was passing up on the opportunity to be gangbanged by Russians hackers, complete with plenty of ATM.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,491]

Pretty sure it was her idea actually. No way she was passing up on the opportunity to be gangbanged by Russians hackers, complete with plenty of ATM.

 

Was it REALLY her idea? Or was she led to believe it was her idea? Pretty sure those hackers did some Inception level mind tricks.

[avoiding injuries 1,220]

I was all set to vote for Hillary until some guy named Boris showed up on my Facebook page telling me she was a bad candidate. I never looked back.

[drobeski 3,061]

I was all set to vote for Hillary until some guy named Boris showed up on my Facebook page telling me she was a bad candidate. I never looked back.

#metoo

[drobeski 3,061]

What if its found out Hillary received 400 million in illegal funds from Russian sources?

 

No wonder they needed an insurance policy and went into full panic mode hoping to stop the meeting.

 

We called it.

 

It's all projection from the real criminals, all in an effort to cover their treasonous crimes.

 

Bad day for team TDS.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

What if its found out Hillary received 400 million in illegal funds from Russian sources?

Hey, it costs a lot of money to buy a political party and steal a nomination. Cut her some slack, it was her turn after all.

[Baker Boy 1,477]

Rosenstein: No Americans Involved or Votes Affected in Russian Hacking

[Mr. Hand 482]

Rosenstein: No Americans Involved or Votes Affected in Russian Hacking

Comey has said the same thing.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Russian national arrested and charged over the weekend...this will be fun

[LOD01 185]

Great job by the Trump admin, flushing out this Russian agent.

 

this outrage over Trump's meeting will disappear in 3-5 days. By the way, what was the outrage before this one? Yeah, I can't remember either, no one can. How about the one before that? yeah, no one remembers.

 

remember 'shithole' . that was awesome. It caused CNN to sit for days with the word 'shithole' plastered on the screen. no one even remembers it.

 

it's like trump has a bag of crack and the media is a bunch of junkies waiting for their next fix.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

The shithole one might be my favorite.

[LOD01 185]

The shithole one might be my favorite.

He could bring that one back to glory tomorrow and they will totally forget about Putin.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Great job by the Trump admin, flushing out this Russian agent.

 

this outrage over Trump's meeting will disappear in 3-5 days. By the way, what was the outrage before this one? Yeah, I can't remember either, no one can. How about the one before that? yeah, no one remembers.

 

remember 'shithole' . that was awesome. It caused CNN to sit for days with the word 'shithole' plastered on the screen. no one even remembers it.

 

it's like trump has a bag of crack and the media is a bunch of junkies waiting for their next fix.

Yeah..the Trump admit flushed them out.

 

You should read those charges and the support...it isnt good for the right.