MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted August 14, 2018 The GOP would be smart to put this in ALL of their ads for ALL candidates from now until November. It can't be stressed enough. What is concerning is that Trump is more socialist than Obama. He has increased total spending and domestic spending. Republican's are abandoning capitalism as fast as the Dems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted August 14, 2018 Its a little too simplistic, and ignores the societal cost of poverty.... If your local city is over run by homelessness, and you have to step over a dozen people sleeping on the sidewalk to go downtown, you aren't going to enjoy the city the same. Maybe you don't go there anymore, city continues to wither away and die. Then it takes down the surrounding suburbs, and continues metasticizing. Oh you mean Portland? Yes.. I don't go downtown or to Portland in general because of it. Human sh!t and piss, campsites, on the sidewalks is why... My wife works there an pays 9.5% state income tax. Portland caters to the homeless... look up "Urban Camping" laws... They tax the fock out of the working people... homeless go there in droves because Portlands the best!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted August 14, 2018 Turning Point Offers Ocasio-Cortez $100,000 for Charity to Debate Candace Owens http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/14/turning-point-offers-ocasio-cortez-100000-charity-debate-candace-owens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted August 14, 2018 Oh you mean Portland? Yes.. I don't go downtown or to Portland in general because of it. Human sh!t and piss, campsites, on the sidewalks is why... My wife works there an pays 9.5% state income tax. Portland caters to the homeless... look up "Urban Camping" laws... They tax the fock out of the working people... homeless go there in droves because Portlands the best!! Seattle is trying its best to compete with PDX. You mention your wife pays income tax because she works there. Do you live in WA then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted August 14, 2018 Its a little too simplistic, and ignores the societal cost of poverty.... If your local city is over run by homelessness, and you have to step over a dozen people sleeping on the sidewalk to go downtown, you aren't going to enjoy the city the same. Maybe you don't go there anymore, city continues to wither away and die. Then it takes down the surrounding suburbs, and continues metasticizing. Hey! Leave San Francisco out of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 691 Posted August 14, 2018 Seattle is trying its best to compete with PDX. You mention your wife pays income tax because she works there. Do you live in WA then? Yup... Vancouver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted August 14, 2018 Yup... Vancouver. Hipster capital of the US! https://www.movehub.com/blog/the-us-hipster-index/ We have friends down in Vancouver. Whenever I've visited him it seemed like nothing but suburbia with tons of shopping plazas. Guess I missed the hipster part of town. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 14, 2018 If you are poor it is your own fault. For some this is true, but not others. How many you believe fall in each group is a major determinate of your political beliefs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted August 15, 2018 Oh you mean Portland? Yes.. I don't go downtown or to Portland in general because of it. Human sh!t and piss, campsites, on the sidewalks is why... My wife works there an pays 9.5% state income tax. Portland caters to the homeless... look up "Urban Camping" laws... They tax the fock out of the working people... homeless go there in droves because Portlands the best!! My point is that there is value to everyone in alleviating poverty. How that is done is up for fair debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted August 15, 2018 My point is that there is value to everyone in alleviating poverty. How that is done is up for fair debate. actually there isn't all that will ever be done is moving the poverty level. There will always be the haves and the have mores. Poverty in the US is 95% better than the avg income of the rest of the world lets just say for example everyone gets 20k a year, the person who is dumb and lazy will still struggle to get by as prices rise. The person with drive, work ethic and intelligence will rise, making those that couldnt want more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted August 15, 2018 For some this is true, but not others. How many you believe fall in each group is a major determinate of your political beliefs. If you are able bodied with no mental disorders it is your own fault. Better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 15, 2018 If you are able bodied with no mental disorders it is your own fault. Better?A little, but still plenty of reasons not to succeed. And you’re excluding a sh!t ton of people already from your original statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted August 15, 2018 A little, but still plenty of reasons not to succeed. And you’re excluding a sh!t ton of people already from your original statement. Did you become a doctor from anything but hard work and determination? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 15, 2018 Did you become a doctor from anything but hard work and determination?Absolutely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 905 Posted August 15, 2018 actually there isn't all that will ever be done is moving the poverty level. There will always be the haves and the have mores. Poverty in the US is 95% better than the avg income of the rest of the world lets just say for example everyone gets 20k a year, the person who is dumb and lazy will still struggle to get by as prices rise. The person with drive, work ethic and intelligence will rise, making those that couldnt want more I've said something very similar to one of my conservative buddies. He was talking about it from a motivation standpoint, and I responded with it comes down to what level of motivation do we accept as the minimum. and with the money example, I said if you gave everyone a million dollars, the guy with 1 million is broke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 190 Posted August 15, 2018 Turning Point Offers Ocasio-Cortez $100,000 for Charity to Debate Candace Owens http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/14/turning-point-offers-ocasio-cortez-100000-charity-debate-candace-owens Candace Owens would make her cry and then run off the set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 190 Posted August 15, 2018 actually there isn't all that will ever be done is moving the poverty level. There will always be the haves and the have mores. Poverty in the US is 95% better than the avg income of the rest of the world lets just say for example everyone gets 20k a year, the person who is dumb and lazy will still struggle to get by as prices rise. The person with drive, work ethic and intelligence will rise, making those that couldnt want more Yep. You raise the poverty level, corporations will raise the cost of products to continue to extract the same amount of $ from the poor. That's why $15 an hour won't work. The minute you do that, corporate America will want that extra $. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
