Why is CJ Anderson still ranked over Demarco Murray?

[DallasJones 2]

Why is CJ Anderson still ranked over Demarco Murray?

 

1. Hillman has looked really good in pre-season.

2. Peyton is pass heavy even though Broncos allude to running more.

3. Joseph Randell has not impressed in preseason which tells me Dallas's O-Line has been over-praised for Murray 2014 success.

4. I can see Hillman stealing more carries than Matthews.

5. Peyton will pass more in the Red Zone.

 

[MDC 5,877]

As somebody who took CJ over Murray:

 

1. Denver is a better offense.

2. Mathews will steal more carries than Hillman.

3. Kubiak has a history of featuring a bellcow back in run-heavy offenses.

4. Murray tends to get hurt a lot and he's coming off a massive workload.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if Murray out scores CJ but I have CJ ranked higher because of the above.

[Criper 24]

Why is CJ Anderson still ranked over Demarco Murray?

 

1. Hillman has looked really good in pre-season.

2. Peyton is pass heavy even though Broncos allude to running more.

3. Joseph Randell has not impressed in preseason which tells me Dallas's O-Line has been over-praised for Murray 2014 success.

4. I can see Hillman stealing more carries than Matthews.

5. Peyton will pass more in the Red Zone.

 

1. History says that after a RB carries the ball as much as Murray did last year, they rarely repeat, and often break down the next year.

2. See #1. Murray hasn't exactly been a model of consistency as far as strapping up for 16 games.

3. Peyton is not going to throw 625+ times under Kubiak like in the past. Kubiak runs the ball to set up the pass, no more passing to set up the run in Denver.

4. Hillman doesn't have the contract that Matthews does. Matthews will have a role, and probably a pretty significant one, not to mention Sproles isn't going anywhere either.

5. Philly passes an awful lot as well, not sure saying Peyton will pass more in the red zone is fact, or an opinion.

[Quickolas1 80]

Gary Kubiak, Ryan Mathews & Darren Sproles.

[weepaws 2,452]

I think Mathews will get more work then Hillman will .

[tanatastic 2,061]

Andersons ceiling is high just like any potential RB in denver. But his floor is through one of those comical trap doors like in bugs bunny, followed by an acme anvil on his head for good measure.

[We Tigers 71]

I took Anderson at the 1/2 turn yesterday without even considering Murray. I don't consider Philly too much of a downgrade from Dallas in terms of o-line and overall offense, but Murray will be lucky to see 2/3 of the touches he had last year. I like Murray, but not over a Peyton Manning running back who can play all three downs and was far and away the best running back on the team last year.

[thegame 8]

Maybe the better question is why do people continuously take Anderson round one when they can get somebody else and likely get Murray in round 2? If you believe they are even close--it's a no-brainer.

 

Also, I'd hold off on thinking Denver will have the better O and Murray has proven he can be elite. Anderson has done it for a second half of a season. I'll pass--been there done that.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Maybe the better question is why do people continuously take Anderson round one when they can get somebody else and likely get Murray in round 2? If you believe they are even close--it's a no-brainer.

 

Also, I'd hold off on thinking Denver will have the better O and Murray has proven he can be elite. Anderson has done it for a second half of a season. I'll pass--been there done that.

I feel the same. Over the years iv bought and regretted so many Andersons, Brandon Jacobs, Marion Barbers and Mcfaddens im done with the "potential" Just take a working mans RB like Lynch or Forte and be done with it.

[Kent 228]

If you take CJ you can get Hillman late. I did this. It's was easy and painless.

 

Ryan Matthews went well before Hillman because Kubiak runs a bell cow. Matthews will get touches.

[Eagles Green 34]

I feel the same. Over the years iv bought and regretted so many Andersons, Brandon Jacobs, Marion Barbers and Mcfaddens im done with the "potential" Just take a working mans RB like Lynch or Forte and be done with it.

Maybe I'm picking 12th and Forte and Marshawn are gone?

[Ray_T 587]

As somebody who took CJ over Murray:

 

1. Denver is a better offense.

2. Mathews will steal more carries than Hillman.

3. Kubiak has a history of featuring a bellcow back in run-heavy offenses.

4. Murray tends to get hurt a lot and he's coming off a massive workload.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if Murray out scores CJ but I have CJ ranked higher because of the above.

yes.

 

 

I agree with this rationale, but you could easily make a rationale supporting either player.

 

both players have low floor and high ceilings. so for me, the player who gets ranked higher is more due to personal preference than anything else. I honestly expect both players have different risks associated with them, and could even put up similar numbers in the end.

[MDC 5,877]

yes.

 

 

I agree with this rationale, but you could easily make a rationale supporting either player.

 

both players have low floor and high ceilings. so for me, the player who gets ranked higher is more due to personal preference than anything else. I honestly expect both players have different risks associated with them, and could even put up similar numbers in the end.

I'm an Eagles fan who drafted CJ fwiw. I thin Matthews is much more of a threat than Hillman. The Eagles actually signed Matthees to a decent contract first and he would have been the starter if Murray didn't fall into their laps. I expect Murray will get 15-18 carries per game with Matthews stealing a good 10-12. I think there's virtually no chance he sees 300+ carries this year. And obviously coming off 400+ touches there is always the chance he breaks down.

 

The worry with CJ is that he was a flash in the pan, but if things break right for him he could get 300+ carries and goal line duties in a very good O. To me his floor is lower but his ceiling is higher.

 

I had them both in a tier below the Big 4 around the 6-10 range among RBs. I ended up drafting CJ over Murray and would have drafted Hill over him too.

[Skinny_Bastard 154]

Close to 440 carries and 500 touches for 2014 season.

Murray scares the heck out of me.

[Ray_T 587]

For the record, I'm not going after either player unless they fall into my lap.

 

the ADP (or auction value) assigned to these players is higher than I'm willing to pay. So I'm letting someone else take that risk.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Maybe I'm picking 12th and Forte and Marshawn are gone?

At 12 your better off going WR WR or taking Hill if you must take an RB.

[Ray_T 587]

At 12 your better off going WR WR or taking Hill if you must take an RB.

I'd assume hill would go before 12, but if hes available, take him for sure.

[GS3K 12]

Cowboys sat a lot of their starters on the o line for precautionary reasons. I'd be more worried about McFadden pushing a time share than the Cowboys' studs up front being overrated.

[Mike Nice 40]

Why is CJ Anderson still ranked over Demarco Murray?

 

1. Hillman has looked really good in pre-season.

2. Peyton is pass heavy even though Broncos allude to running more.

3. Joseph Randell has not impressed in preseason which tells me Dallas's O-Line has been over-praised for Murray 2014 success.

4. I can see Hillman stealing more carries than Matthews.

5. Peyton will pass more in the Red Zone.

 

Because he will score more points?

 

10 tds in 8 games with manning last year, hes playing with same qb

[matrobw 3]

I took CJ with the 18th pick in round two. Dez was still there and forsette but CJ will be a nice compliment to Charles who I took in the first. Got beckham in the third so I'm a happy boy

[shredhead 21]

Never take a Denver RB. You can't trust Shanny and that dreaded RBBC ;o)

[uwmalcolm 73]

I took CJ with the 18th pick in round two. Dez was still there and forsette but CJ will be a nice compliment to Charles who I took in the first. Got beckham in the third so I'm a happy boy

QB heavy scoring/drafting? No other logical reason for Dez and CJ to both be available at 18.

[the newb 23]

I took CJ with the 18th pick in round two. Dez was still there and forsette but CJ will be a nice compliment to Charles who I took in the first. Got beckham in the third so I'm a happy boy

8 team league?

[NEWPOSTERGUY! 266]

QB heavy scoring/drafting? No other logical reason for Dez and CJ to both be available at 18.

... uhhh, and OBJ in the third, don'tcha know -

[Joey Gladstone 33]

I wanted no part of CJ. Too many variables for a mid 1st round pick.

 

Expecting a repeat of last year would be silly but even with two other quality backs in Philly, Murray will be dynamite if healthy. Philly will run enough plays every game for him and Matthews to be bonafide studs with plenty left over for the rest of the team.

[Kent 228]

I wanted no part of CJ. Too many variables for a mid 1st round pick.

Expecting a repeat of last year would be silly but even with two other quality backs in Philly, Murray will be dynamite if healthy. Philly will run enough plays every game for him and Matthews to be bonafide studs with plenty left over for the rest of the team.

What variables? Kubiak eliminates all variables.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Mainly Anderson being a system back on a team that always surprises at running back, who's backup looked electric this preseason (and I get it if you're lol Hillman)

 

I could be being overly cautious but I'd rather draft Hill or go with a top notch WR.

[Kent 228]

Mainly Anderson being a system back on a team that always surprises at running back, who's backup looked electric this preseason (and I get it if you're lol Hillman)

I could be being overly cautious but I'd rather draft Hill or go with a top notch WR.

I was overly cautious when I also took Hillman late.

 

Kubiak is a starting fantasy RB dream. Now that he's got Manning it doesn't get any better for the RB. That RB is CJ. Everyone wants to overthink it. The situation is glorious.

[weepaws 2,452]

I would pass on a first round pick for Anderson also .

[Joey Gladstone 33]

I can see your side of things Kent. If you also grabbed Hillman I'm sure you will be fine.

 

I just can't justify taking him over Hill/Julio/Dez

[Kent 228]

I can see your side of things Kent. If you also grabbed Hillman I'm sure you will be fine.

 

I just can't justify taking him over Hill/Julio/Dez

It's not an easy call. I had to choose between Hill and CJ on draft day. CJ also posted two 8 catch games when he was named starter. That should be enough to break most ties. Manning has told CJ this pre season to be prepared to catch a ton of balls. New oline means he may be dumping off a ton.

[SaintsInDome2006 128]

Maybe the better question is why do people continuously take Anderson round one when they can get somebody else and likely get Murray in round 2? If you believe they are even close--it's a no-brainer.

 

Also, I'd hold off on thinking Denver will have the better O and Murray has proven he can be elite. Anderson has done it for a second half of a season. I'll pass--been there done that.

 

Maybe the reason is that as a practical matter you may be looking at Anderson in the second half or end of round 1 so by the time you come back around Murray may not be there. You could miss both.

[matrobw 3]

10 team QB's friendly league. Not sure what some guys were thinking. But took advantage of it nonetheless

[tanatastic 2,061]

Never take a Denver RB. You can't trust Shanny and that dreaded RBBC ;o)

It's no joke. The Ghost of Shanahans past still haunts Denver yearly. It's almost like they do it on purpose to keep tradition.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

10 team QB's friendly league. Not sure what some guys were thinking. But took advantage of it nonetheless

Home leagues arent always shark leagues. I have two 10 team leagues that are live drafts. I think both of my teams are pretty damn stacked.