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Maclin - Alex Smith is not good for anyone's fantasy outlook.

 

Torrey Smith - how often do the 9ers attempt to throw long?

 

Nick Foles - why do you give the Sanchize a 2 year deal? Cause yer moving up for Mariota. (Foles to Titans?)

 

Julius Thomas - Maybe not too badly though, what he loses in quality he should make most of it back in volume

 

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Frank Gore - good on ya mate, happy to see you get paid

 

Lesean McCoy - With no QB in town Rex is gonna ride him till the wheels fall off. Good bet to lead the league in carries

 

Demarco Murray - tentative up arrow here because it looks like he's going to be back in Dallas

 

 

 

 

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Seems about right - although I'd unhappily add Brandon Marshall to the Down Arrow list.

 

By the way, I've always appreciated your Butkus quote. : )

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I really think chip is making a mistake if he trades foles, but its probably going to happen. Its nice to have a guy like mariotta for the running aspect of an offensive system, but the qb also needs to be able to read a defense.

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Looks good, I'd give up arrows to a.jeffery, j.matthews

As well as Hyde and Virgil Green.

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Maclin - Alex Smith is not good for anyone's fantasy outlook.

 

Torrey Smith - how often do the 9ers attempt to throw long?

 

Nick Foles - why do you give the Sanchize a 2 year deal? Cause yer moving up for Mariota. (Foles to Titans?)

 

Julius Thomas - Maybe not too badly though, what he loses in quality he should make most of it back in volume

 

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Frank Gore - good on ya mate, happy to see you get paid

 

Lesean McCoy - With no QB in town Rex is gonna ride him till the wheels fall off. Good bet to lead the league in carries

 

Demarco Murray - tentative up arrow here because it looks like he's going to be back in Dallas

 

 

 

 

I dont get the McCoy going to get so many touches hype. He always has gotten a ton of touches, and last year he was 2nd in the league in carries. He's not going ot get the ball 26+ a game all of a sudden. Should be the same as last year with more catches maybe

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Maclin will help Smith and that offense out a lot , he gives them a true playmaker at WR and helps Bowe , I like the move .

 

Gore stock goes down . I don't see how he fits into that system and after nine years he has taken a lot of beatings . Don't like that move .

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Maclin will help Smith and that offense out a lot , he gives them a true playmaker at WR and helps Bowe , I like the move .

 

- Kelce and JC will fockin' feast

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Maclin - Alex Smith is not good for anyone's fantasy outlook.

 

Torrey Smith - how often do the 9ers attempt to throw long?

 

Nick Foles - why do you give the Sanchize a 2 year deal? Cause yer moving up for Mariota. (Foles to Titans?)

 

Julius Thomas - Maybe not too badly though, what he loses in quality he should make most of it back in volume

 

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Frank Gore - good on ya mate, happy to see you get paid

 

Lesean McCoy - With no QB in town Rex is gonna ride him till the wheels fall off. Good bet to lead the league in carries

 

Demarco Murray - tentative up arrow here because it looks like he's going to be back in Dallas

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed with all this Ralphster except I'd say the jury is out on T. Smith at a minimum medium term.

Its very unclear at this point what exactly is going to be happening in SF, entirely new football schemes for the most part and to me its pretty clear they are going to need to score ALOT more points than they have in the past.

If Smith gets a down arrow for me its only based on potential dysfunction, but I think this is a very hard situation to analyze until we see it play out there, I also think any of the "expert columnists" I read who purport to be able to analyze are talking out of their a**.

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Agreed with all this Ralphster except I'd say the jury is out on T. Smith at a minimum medium term.

Its very unclear at this point what exactly is going to be happening in SF, entirely new football schemes for the most part and to me its pretty clear they are going to need to score ALOT more points than they have in the past.

If Smith gets a down arrow for me its only based on potential dysfunction, but I think this is a very hard situation to analyze until we see it play out there, I also think any of the "expert columnists" I read who purport to be able to analyze are talking out of their a**.

 

Lacking an upgrade at quarterback from his previous situation (to put it politely), this looks to be a less-than-lateral move for T. Smith. Couple that with a potentially decaying defense (see: Patrick Willis, Justin Smith retirement), inexperienced staff and a bumbling FO, and I just don't see an inspiring recipe for success here.

 

But hey, I could be wrong. : )

 

Edited to add: Maybe he was just sick and tired of snow.

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I dont get the McCoy going to get so many touches hype. He always has gotten a ton of touches, and last year he was 2nd in the league in carries. He's not going ot get the ball 26+ a game all of a sudden. Should be the same as last year with more catches maybe

Also Fred Jackson isnt going anywhere

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Lacking an upgrade at quarterback from his previous situation (to put it politely), this looks to be a less-than-lateral move for T. Smith. Couple that with a potentially decaying defense (see: Patrick Willis, Justin Smith retirement), inexperienced staff and a bumbling FO, and I just don't see an inspiring recipe for success here.

 

But hey, I could be wrong. : )

 

We all could be wrong ! :)

 

What is one of the top ingredients in FF production?

 

Targets. How many can we project for Torrey smith right now?

 

I can't make any at all, just insufficient info, my gut says the number could go UP, even potentially dramatically.

 

He had 92 targets last year and spent the 1st half of the season as more like the #3 option on the Ravens. Steve Smith finished the year with 130 tgts plus.

 

Could I see T. Smith with a great number more tgts as a 49er in 2015 and the other options? Possibly

 

T. Smith finished 30ish in PPR leagues last year and its hard for me to move him up or down at this point.

 

To me the defense decaying is net positive not negative. The 49ers tried to smash mouth, ball control, and win with D in the past and that looks to be unlikely in 2015, would expect they will have to throw the ball.

 

Look, I get it, Kap's not a great QB but honestly I'm not even sure about how much that play into it, his limitations seem to me primarily lack of touch on his throws and inability to make the correct read. I'm not sure either would have dramatic effect on his ability to hit the type of routes they appear be getting Torrey Smith to run. I also think the lack of ability to separate by the WRs downfield has made it difficult to gauge just how good or bad Kap is at doing it. The balls he has thrown downfield when I've been watching have been 50-50 balls all the time because guys couldn't get truly open.

 

I understand the knee jerk first reaction and where its coming from, not even saying people are wrong, just saying insufficient evidence for me to formulate an opinion

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J Mathews - some rumblings about Huff but I'll take Mathews at his current ADP (only going to go up before season starts though)

 

C Hyde - With Gore gone he's the main guy now.

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Up arrow, Michael Campanaro. Smith leaving leaves campanaro one step closer to the team relying on him.

 

agreed. always liked that kid.

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Anquan Boldin's numbers went up in San Francisco. The 49ers want to take their downfield shots, they didn't have the line play last year to do that and also didn't have speed at WR. Smith should see more targets, yards and less TDS less year. Time will tell if the 49ers' coaching, which was very good on defense and mediocre on offense in 2014 changes for better or worse.

 

Looking at strength of schedule, the table certainly looks set for another Patriots run.

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Anquan Boldin's numbers went up in San Francisco. The 49ers want to take their downfield shots, they didn't have the line play last year to do that and also didn't have speed at WR. Smith should see more targets, yards and less TDS less year. Time will tell if the 49ers' coaching, which was very good on defense and mediocre on offense in 2014 changes for better or worse.

 

Looking at strength of schedule, the table certainly looks set for another Patriots run.

Not if they lose Revis and Browner.

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Why?

History. There's been very few fantasy relevant WRs in the Flacco era. I don't see a 5'9" 7th round pick being one. Maybe a stash in a super deep dynasty, but in a redraft or keeper he's not even a consideration.

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History. There's been very few fantasy relevant WRs in the Flacco era. I don't see a 5'9" 7th round pick being one. Maybe a stash in a super deep dynasty, but in a redraft or keeper he's not even a consideration.

 

Steve Smith brought home 200+ points for me last year. That's fantasy relevant...

 

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*Possible* Down Arrow - Jimmy Graham. Maybe more TDs but fewer receptions and yards.

 

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Rashaad Jennings - With Vereen signing and the big bodied Williams coming up your touches have done dried up.

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Steve Smith brought home 200+ points for me last year. That's fantasy relevant...

 

In other news:

 

*Possible* Down Arrow - Jimmy Graham. Maybe more TDs but fewer receptions and yards.

 

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Rashaad Jennings - With Vereen signing and the big bodied Williams coming up your touches have done dried up.

 

Defintely awful for Jennings and another shot to the nuts for me LOL, well it doesn't hurt that much, but FA giveth and FA taketh away. once again. Just another sign most every team will be in heavy RBBC eventually. I'd say its an absolute must if/when the NFL goes to 18 game seasons.

 

Graham IDK, I think RWill is the better QB already and maybe loads better over the next 3 yrs. Seattle theoretically takes away from the ceiling of the old Saints high powered O but it may be a way better floor. I think it should be as good as last year in any case.

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History. There's been very few fantasy relevant WRs in the Flacco era. I don't see a 5'9" 7th round pick being one. Maybe a stash in a super deep dynasty, but in a redraft or keeper he's not even a consideration.

Yeah except for a 33 year old steve smith who was pretty good last year. With smith another year older and torrey+jones gone, who else is going to catch passes? Again this is about arrow up, not proclaiming players like campanaro will become studs.

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Deandre up ?

 

Been debating that since you posted. Overall I'd say yeah arrow up, but he'll also be drawing double coverage so I'd say 90 - 115% of last year's production would be great. We'll see how he handles the transition to #1 WR status and expectations/coverages. For the record though I love him and am buying in all leagues where possible.

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Steve Smith brought home 200+ points for me last year. That's fantasy relevant...

 

In other news:

 

*Possible* Down Arrow - Jimmy Graham. Maybe more TDs but fewer receptions and yards.

 

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Rashaad Jennings - With Vereen signing and the big bodied Williams coming up your touches have done dried up.

Michael Campanaro is no Steve Smith, and after a few very lucky early season big plays Smith came back to earth and was nothing more than a flex play.

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Yeah except for a 33 year old steve smith who was pretty good last year. With smith another year older and torrey+jones gone, who else is going to catch passes? Again this is about arrow up, not proclaiming players like campanaro will become studs.

Marlon Brown and Smith, plus whatever free agents and draft picks they bring in will be ahead of him. Sure maybe his arrow points up a bit, but if you draft him in a ten or twelve team league you have wasted a pick. Every team in the league has a guy like this deep on their roster.

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History. There's been very few fantasy relevant WRs in the Flacco era.

 

Is what you said.

 

I said "Steve Smith was a 200+ points for me last year. That's fantasy relevant."

 

I did not say Campanaro was SS or imply such. I did say I always liked him, but I'm not out to win an internet fight with you either new guy. :)

 

Though your response to FBN reminded me:

 

Up Arrow - Marlon Brown - magical '3rd year' for 6'5" 214lb WR who flashed real potential early his rookie season and faded to forgotten last year. 6'5" 214lbs of redzone target is my thinking. One of my true sleepers for next year that I'm giving up for FFT

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Is what you said.

 

I said "Steve Smith was a 200+ points for me last year. That's fantasy relevant."

 

I did not say Campanaro was SS or imply such. I did say I always liked him, but I'm not out to win an internet fight with you either new guy. :)

 

Though your response to FBN reminded me:

 

Up Arrow - Marlon Brown - magical '3rd year' for 6'5" 214lb WR who flashed real potential early his rookie season and faded to forgotten last year. 6'5" 214lbs of redzone target is my thinking. One of my true sleepers for next year that I'm giving up for FFT

No fight wanted, just opinion. Now Brown is an actual player who might become useable. Like you, I grabbed him after his rookie year and had high expectations until they brought in Smith. Hopefully he pays off this year.

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I grabbed him after his rookie year and had high expectations until they brought in Smith. Hopefully he pays off this year.

 

He's not a straight line burner, but Marlon can go up and get it. In the 'trest-coast' offense he'll be a valuable commodity, especially with the departure of OD and the unknown of DP.

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Up Arrow - Josh Hill: With Graham out of town Hill is the only tight end left on the Saints roster. Considering the verbal splooging Sean Payton leveled at him Hill has the chance to put on some Jimmy shoes and step into the TE1 conversation next year.

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Up arrow- Andrew Luck

 

I know it sounds crazy because how could he get much higher in some minds but as early as last off-season there were worries about the Colts wanting to run the ball a lot more and saying so themselves. Should be clear those fears are not coming back.

 

I think from the actions of the organization at this point the idea that they might want to move to a smash mouth - balanced run-pass approach, should be completely shelved based on the FA moves.

 

No Demarcco as was rumored, pick up the older good pass pro guy who probably is not a threat to run the offense through.

 

Continue to sign passing game weapons to enhance Luck as the centerpiece.

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Up Arrow - Andre Johnson. He's going to catch 80+ balls next year and will likely get those elusive TDs that failed to materialize in HOU.

 

Down Arrow - Donte Moncrief. Andre's targets will likely come at the expense of Moncrief's playing time.

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Coach Chuck Pagano made it clear at the NFL owners' meetings that the Colts envision Frank Gore as a workhorse and every-down back.

He'll take on full-time running back duties ahead of Dan Herron, Vick Ballard, and Zurlon Tipton. Even at 32, the Colts think Gore can be a high-volume bellcow. "Some guys are like that. Carry 1 through 20, they’re OK. And 20 to 30, they keep getting better as you wear defenses down. And I think Frank is that type of runner," said Pagano. "He’s a tough, hard-nosed, every-down back. He can play all three downs. He’s a great protector in pass pro. He catches the ball out of the backfield. We all know what he can do as a runner on early downs. He loves football."
Source: CSN Bay Area

 

 

if this is true then gore gets an up arrow

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CJ spiller is going to run until he pukes

CJ is going to catch then run until he pukes- PPR gold in this system and on turf

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Reggie Bush/Danny Woodhead - both are savvy vets w excellent pass catching potential. In ppr leagues I think they grossly outperform ADP.

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I agree about the stock of R Bush . The worst the Niners look the more play time i see Bush getting . Hyde is going to have trouble behind this Oline they now don't have .

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Up Travaris Cadet NE ppr

Up that guy called AP

 

Down Forte, Joique Bell

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