iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted August 22, 2018 Serious question: Does anyone know one person that voted Trump that won't be in the up coming election? I don't. But I do know a few that voted against him that will be voting for him in 2020. Florida is 100% a lock for Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted August 22, 2018 Serious question: Does anyone know one person that voted Trump that won't be in the up coming election? I don't. But I do know a few that voted against him that will be voting for him in 2020. Florida is 100% a lock for Trump. I was visiting ny dad in Florida, winter 2016. He's an old timey democrat, union guy etc. He told me Trump wouldn't win Florida. I said Dad, Obama barely won Florida and people liked him, no one likes her, she ain't winning. Trump will run away with it now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted August 22, 2018 You really hate yourself don't you? They think they are high brow, above the fray when they put America down. It's really sad. And psychotic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted August 22, 2018 Serious question: Does anyone know one person that voted Trump that won't be in the up coming election? I don't. But I do know a few that voted against him that will be voting for him in 2020. Florida is 100% a lock for Trump. That settles it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted August 22, 2018 That settles it DeSantis winning will pretty much settle it. He ran a Trump campaign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofTEK 71 Posted August 22, 2018 DeSantis winning will pretty much settle it. He ran a Trump campaign. People were saying things like this about Hilary. You can't get cocky. People thinking their candidate is a sho in causes people not to show up at the polls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 22, 2018 Shh. They like to pretend that all welfare recipients are black urban democrats. When in reality, of course, the majority are trailer dwelling republicans because of gunz and baby jeebus. Actually it's about a dead heat in overall numbers. Roughly 21% of the total pop is on welfare. And almost exactly 1/3 of that is black and 1/3 is white. Given that fact that there are 3x more whites than blacks, people could legitimately make the argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted August 22, 2018 Actually it's about a dead heat in overall numbers. Roughly 21% of the total pop is on welfare. And almost exactly 1/3 of that is black and 1/3 is white. Given that fact that there are 3x more whites than blacks, people could legitimately make the argument. Get out of here with that logic BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,381 Posted August 22, 2018 When did Obummer really get traction prior to 2008 election? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 22, 2018 Serious question: Does anyone know one person that voted Trump that won't be in the up coming election? I don't. But I do know a few that voted against him that will be voting for him in 2020. Florida is 100% a lock for Trump.I don’t know anyone who admits to voting for Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 22, 2018 Nobody gives a ###### about the fake scandals that CNN and wiff push on a daily basis. Nobody gives a ###### about "unpresidential". that is code word for not a cuck. Maybe the economy takes a downswing, but it sure as ###### does not appear to be headed that way as he is locking in new trade deals with EU and NAFTA and China is on the ropes. There are no moderate democrats. He barely won? 304-227, that is an ass whooping. Who cares how many illegals and trannies in Cali vote for the communist candidate? That has nothing to do with the other 49 states. And he faced 93% negative coverage by the press, a DNC that cheated, and an FBI/CIA that was plotting against his campaign. Given the odds he was against and the final outcome it was the biggest presidential election beat down since Reagan/Mondale. Trump is gaining with blacks and Hispanics as Dems are moving farther to the left. Their leading candidates are self proclaimed socialists for god's sake. So, do want some of the betting action as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted August 22, 2018 I dont know anyone who admits to voting for Trump. No way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted August 22, 2018 No way Right, stunner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted August 22, 2018 This is why Trump will win again. Democrats JUST DO NOT GET IT. Normal, law abiding citizens...... put their family first, then their community, then their state then their country. America First.....will always trump people like Elizabeth Warren. Just watch this clip. http://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1032262459560734722 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted August 22, 2018 I dont know anyone who admits to voting for Trump. I voted for Trump. I'm more embarrassed to admit that I voted for Gore and Kerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted August 23, 2018 I don’t know anyone who admits to voting for Trump. I did not vote for Trump in 2016. But holy cow, if the people I'm seeing for the D's run and more importantly if they (the democratic party) keep going further and further left like I'm seeing..........I'll gladly do it. No Brainer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted August 23, 2018 Not sure where to put this. But didn't want to do another thread. They have Trump on video saying categorically that he did not use campaign funds to pay off the pornstars. And now that's been completely refuted. Not a he said she said, via paperwork and statement Etc. That's a felony. That's a crime. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 23, 2018 Not sure where to put this. But didn't want to do another thread. They have Trump on video saying categorically that he did not use campaign funds to pay off the pornstars. And now that's been completely refuted. Not a he said she said, via paperwork and statement Etc. That's a ###### felony. That's a crime. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that.saying things on video is a crime? Hee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted August 23, 2018 Not sure where to put this. But didn't want to do another thread. They have Trump on video saying categorically that he did not use campaign funds to pay off the pornstars. And now that's been completely refuted. Not a he said she said, via paperwork and statement Etc. That's a ###### felony. That's a crime. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that. You are a messed up dude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 23, 2018 No way Right, stunner.I know. They’re a highly educated, affluent and compassionate bunch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted August 23, 2018 The new thing that I'm surprised about right now is that we're not seeing Avenati all over the news. I mean this is a huge win for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted August 23, 2018 I know. Theyre a highly educated, affluent and compassionate bunch. You're not affluent. Do they look down on you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted August 23, 2018 saying things on video is a crime? Hee I assume you're just being obtuse, but fair point, I did word that badly. ---------------- Cohen admitted to using campaign funds to pay porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal in exchange for their keeping silent about their relations Trump. Cohen said "a candidate for federal office" personally directed him to pay the porn star and Playboy model "for the principal purpose of influencing the election." Cohen's lawyer, Danny Davis, named Trump as the culprit. ---------- Previously, Trump lied and said that didn't happen. But like I said, this time it's not a he-said-she-said. They have Bank documents and transfer documents and all sorts of other paperwork to support what Cohen has pleaded guilty to. seems to me that one of the next steps is that they have Trump Corporation individuals that they can go after. They had to be aware of the movement of funds as well. Will be interesting to see if one of those guys flips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted August 23, 2018 Trump lied? To who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted August 23, 2018 I know. Theyre a highly educated, affluent and compassionate bunch. Do they lock their doors at night? Do they live in gated communities? Do they hire accountants to do their taxes so they pay least amount possible? Do they send their kids to private school? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted August 23, 2018 the other story that just didn't make it into the feed much yesterday was that now not only the first person in Congress to support Trump but the second person have now been indicted on fraud charges. The company you keep.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 23, 2018 You're not affluent. Do they look down on you?Not that I know of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted August 23, 2018 Do they lock their doors at night? Do they live in gated communities? Do they hire accountants to do their taxes so they pay least amount possible? Do they send their kids to private school? 1. Probably.2. No. 3. Maybe. We use an accountant because physicians have a high likelihood of being audited. 4. Some do, some don’t. Are any of those characteristics of Trump supporters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 23, 2018 They think they are high brow, above the fray when they put America down. It's really sad. And psychotic How is that putting America down? Are you denying that the majority of welfare recipients are white? Most of those rural? Mostly republican? What that i said was incorrect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 23, 2018 No way He does live in one of the bluest states in the union. And probably runs around with other vegan outdoor sports granola types. Wouldnt be shocking. Unfortunately, I know a lot of maga cult d!pshits. I also know a lot of sjw cult d!pshits. People who are actually sane about politics? Theyre a minority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted August 23, 2018 I know. Theyre a highly educated, affluent and compassionate bunch. That attitude is exactly why you lose again in 2020. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 23, 2018 That attitude is exactly why you lose again in 2020. Thanks. You think your side has a better attitude? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted August 23, 2018 I heard one of Trump's former campaign guys today who had a really interesting take. basically, he said what we all know. That the 35% isn't going to change. Trump acknowledge that. He could shoot some of them on the street blah blah blah. but what Trumps former Guy brought up was that for the election, Trump won independents by somewhere between six and eight percent. Now in virtually any poll you look at, Independents just don't want to have anything to do with Trump. I think the left media gets so pissed off that that 35% number almost never changes significantly. That they forget to look at the independent number that was the key. Now the only thing I'll add is that these polls don't include Hillary. And I think that's huge. I think as many Independence voted against Hillary more than for Trump. When you take her out of the hypothetical in the pole then the numbers change significantly. Trump versus a hypothetical candidate? Trump loses. Trump versus Hillary? Dead draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 23, 2018 I heard one of Trump's former campaign guys today who had a really interesting take. basically, he said what we all know. That the 35% isn't going to change. Trump acknowledge that. He could shoot some of them on the street blah blah blah. but what Trumps former Guy brought up was that for the election, Trump won independents by somewhere between six and eight percent. Now in virtually any poll you look at, Independents just don't want to have anything to do with Trump. I think the left media gets so pissed off that that 35% number almost never changes significantly. That they forget to look at the independent number that was the key. Now the only thing I'll add is that these polls don't include Hillary. And I think that's huge. I think as many Independence voted against Hillary more than for Trump. When you take her out of the hypothetical in the pole then the numbers change significantly. Trump versus a hypothetical candidate? Trump loses. Trump versus Hillary? Dead draw. Yeah. But Harris? Waters? Fauxcohantas? Trump beats any of them easily. The dems need to find someone sane and palatable. Right now, Bidens the best I see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted August 23, 2018 Yeah. But Harris? Waters? Fauxcohantas? Trump beats any of them easily. The dems need to find someone sane and palatable. Right now, Bidens the best I see. Yeah, I think Biden would provide the healing that we need. He's definitely got the best backstory in that regard. I think the only way he pulls it off is to come right out front and say I'm a one-termer. Pick a strong woman like Warren as a VP but basically leave the next race open for the Dems. Just let the country take a collective deep breath for four years. And somebody smother Hillary with a pillow. Or a boulder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,558 Posted August 23, 2018 President: I did not have sex with that woman Haters: She never washed the dress with your ###### stains -or- Your lawyer testifying that you paid her off to keep her quiet President: OK, yes I did have sex with that woman. Haters: He lied! We can finally impeach him now! America: We already knew he was prone to cheating on his wife before we voted for him the first time and yet we voted for him anyway. Haters: He lied! We can finally impeach him now! America: STFU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted August 23, 2018 Not sure where to put this. But didn't want to do another thread. They have Trump on video saying categorically that he did not use campaign funds to pay off the pornstars. And now that's been completely refuted. Not a he said she said, via paperwork and statement Etc. That's a ###### felony. That's a crime. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that. You got a link for that or are you just rehashing what some soy drinking from FBG or DU said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted August 23, 2018 I assume you're just being obtuse, but fair point, I did word that badly. ---------------- Cohen admitted to using campaign funds to pay porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal in exchange for their keeping silent about their relations Trump. Cohen said "a candidate for federal office" personally directed him to pay the porn star and Playboy model "for the principal purpose of influencing the election." Cohen's lawyer, Danny Davis, named Trump as the culprit. ---------- Previously, Trump lied and said that didn't happen. But like I said, this time it's not a he-said-she-said. They have Bank documents and transfer documents and all sorts of other paperwork to support what Cohen has pleaded guilty to. seems to me that one of the next steps is that they have Trump Corporation individuals that they can go after. They had to be aware of the movement of funds as well. Will be interesting to see if one of those guys flips. So you are basing all of this on Lanny Davis. Carry on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted August 23, 2018 ...and here come the trolls.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted August 23, 2018 President: I did not have sex with that woman Haters: She never washed the dress with your ###### stains -or- Your lawyer testifying that you paid her off to keep her quiet President: OK, yes I did have sex with that woman. Haters: He lied! We can finally impeach him now! America: We already knew he was prone to cheating on his wife before we voted for him the first time and yet we voted for him anyway. Haters: He lied! We can finally impeach him now! America: STFU It is different this time. Because Trump is a meany. Independents don't like meanies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
