Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 Not much, but this should be simple. It should have been simple the times it has come up dating back into the early 2000s...yet it wasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted September 5, 2017 Not really any destruction there. And the rule of law...hard to make that claim a week after pardoning Sheriff Joe. I agree Obama should have done this through congress. I disagree this law cause any destruction at all and has shown to be a good program. Presidents pardoning criminals is against the rule of law now? Seriously, get a lawyer and sue everyone who had a hand in your education. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted September 5, 2017 Presidents pardoning criminals is against the rule of law now? Seriously, get a lawyer and sue everyone who had a hand in your education. Just wondering and I really want to know....is that really what you got out of his post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,968 Posted September 5, 2017 Just wondering and I really want to know....is that really what you got out of his post? Â There isn't much else to get. This was not a "law" that Obummer passed. It was a presidential decree and an end around congress so Sho Doofus loses all credibility when he calls it a law. He apparently doesn't know much about what constitutes a law in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted September 5, 2017 Just wondering and I really want to know....is that really what you got out of his post? He didn't attempt to correlate that Trumps pardon was somehow against the rule of law?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 Â There isn't much else to get. This was not a "law" that Obummer passed. It was a presidential decree and an end around congress so Sho Doofus loses all credibility when he calls it a law. He apparently doesn't know much about what constitutes a law in this country. I mocked the "rule of law" for a guy who does not give a about the law as shown by the political based pardon of sherrif joe. I have called this a program over and over or out law in quotes If you had any actual credibility...it's lost when you misrepresent what I have said here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted September 5, 2017 He didn't attempt to correlate that Trumps pardon was somehow against the rule of law?? I don't think so. I could be wrong though. Most people are well aware that even though most presidential pardons are shady, they are not against any laws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 I don't think so. I could be wrong though. Most people are well aware that even though most presidential pardons are shady, they are not against any laws. You are using logic on an illogical person who still is trying to troll me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted September 5, 2017 I mocked the "rule of law" for a guy who does not give a ###### about the law as shown by the political based pardon of sherrif joe. I have called this a program over and over or out law in quotes If you had any actual credibility...it's lost when you misrepresent what I have said here. Sue. Maybe you can get a class action with your classmates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted September 5, 2017 I don't think so. I could be wrong though. Most people are well aware that even though most presidential pardons are shady, they are not against any laws. So why is it being used as an example of going against the rule of law? It's lawful. You gave Shonuff credit. You're probably a nice person, but that's not a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 371 Posted September 5, 2017 So why is it being used as an example of going against the rule of law? It's lawful. You gave Shonuff credit. You're probably a nice person, but that's not a good idea. Haha. I'm obviously in over my head on this one. You guys continue on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 5, 2017 Aren't you impeding the free market by keeping them out? Â Seems like if this is all about the free market, you should be figuring out a way to beat the illegals by being better or more efficient at your job. Although, most likely, you'd just have to join them in the race to the bottom It's not apples to apples when legit firms pay taxes, insurance, bonds, license and registration fees, etc. Â The illegals pay none of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted September 5, 2017 Â You don't think more people would be willing to swing some tools if there was more money in it? Everyone has a price. This is correct. College isn't for everyone. A fair % of our population would be better off learning how to build or fix something instead of pursuing a meaningless 4 yr degree. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted September 5, 2017 Wow, just watched the first half of the presser from today (which was all about daca). Â Just when I thought this guy couldn't go any lower, damned if he's not deliberately trying to set up a race war between blacks and messicans. They went out of their way to mention repeatedly that 950K blacks in the same age range don't have jobs - all but saying "the mexicans took your jobs.". Â If you think there's nothing nefarious: All they had to say was "people from all backgrounds in that same age range are still unemployed". This was a very clear move to drive a very specific race wedge.. Â If the thinks he's going to make up for Charlottesville that way, wow, big blunder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted September 5, 2017 Wow, just watched the first half of the presser from today (which was all about daca).  Just when I thought this guy couldn't go any lower, damned if he's not deliberately trying to set up a race war between blacks and messicans. They went out of their way to mention repeatedly that 950K blacks in the same age range don't have jobs - all but saying "the mexicans took your jobs.".  If you think there's nothing nefarious: All they had to say was "people from all backgrounds in that same age range are still unemployed". This was a very clear move to drive a very specific race wedge..  If the thinks he's going to make up for Charlottesville that way, wow, big blunder.  again facts are racists  maybe if the Mexicans were gone, the black yutes can take their place in society doing min wage jobs and you know actually contribute to society rather than destroying it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted September 5, 2017 You have to go back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 You have to go back. Back where? To places they don't really even know of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted September 5, 2017 Wow, just watched the first half of the presser from today (which was all about daca). Â Just when I thought this guy couldn't go any lower, damned if he's not deliberately trying to set up a race war between blacks and messicans. They went out of their way to mention repeatedly that 950K blacks in the same age range don't have jobs - all but saying "the mexicans took your jobs.". Â If you think there's nothing nefarious: All they had to say was "people from all backgrounds in that same age range are still unemployed". This was a very clear move to drive a very specific race wedge.. Â If the thinks he's going to make up for Charlottesville that way, wow, big blunder. I'll have to check in with CNN for a better exact version of your take. After my draft, I'll check it out and get back to make fun of you in a little while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted September 5, 2017 Trump decided to let an Executive order expire. If it was the will of the people shouldn't it have passed when you had the presidency and both houses in Congress? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 I'll have to check in with CNN for a better exact version of your take. After my draft, I'll check it out and get back to make fun of you in a little while. Best schtick ever...guy who brings the most biased sources possible...mocks CNN. Top notch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 Trump decided to let an Executive order expire. If it was the will of the people shouldn't it have passed when you had the presidency and both houses in Congress? You should research it a bit more of youbthink it wasn't attempted. Do you feel it's a bad program? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 5, 2017 Wow, just watched the first half of the presser from today (which was all about daca). Â Just when I thought this guy couldn't go any lower, damned if he's not deliberately trying to set up a race war between blacks and messicans. They went out of their way to mention repeatedly that 950K blacks in the same age range don't have jobs - all but saying "the mexicans took your jobs.". Â If you think there's nothing nefarious: All they had to say was "people from all backgrounds in that same age range are still unemployed". This was a very clear move to drive a very specific race wedge.. Â If the thinks he's going to make up for Charlottesville that way, wow, big blunder. Just like I said, illegal cheap labor hurts the poorest the most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 5, 2017 I agree Obama should have done this through congress.  why?   And then a follow up.....What did Barry do?  Just answer the questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 And then a follow up.....What did Barry do?  Just answer the questions. He issued an EO helping creat what has been a good program. Do you believe DACA is a good program? Just answer the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 5, 2017 He issued an EO helping creat what has been a good program. Do you believe DACA is a good program? Just answer the question. Nope, try again. Why should Obama have gon trough congress to get this done? I edited my first post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 5, 2017 He issued an EO helping creat what has been a good program. Do you believe DACA is a good program? Just answer the question. No. I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted September 5, 2017 Nope, try again. Why should Obama have gon trough congress to get this done? Â I edited my first post. I know! I know! Because that's how it says it's to be done in the constitution? To make it legal and stuff? Don't worry, Slownuff has me blocked so he won't see this if no one quotes it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 Nope, try again. Why should Obama have gon trough congress to get this done? Â I edited my first post. Because that is how you make a law. Â Would be more iron clad. Given how that went in the past and the failures...he went the route he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 No. I don't. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted September 5, 2017 Because that is how you make a law. Â Would be more iron clad. Given how that went in the past and the failures...he went the route he did. So because he wanted something that nobody else agreed on it and he went around the law to do it. That's fine it's his presidency and now it's expired and won't be continued. This is what the people want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted September 5, 2017 Because that is how you make a law. Â Would be more iron clad. Given how that went in the past and the failures...he went the route he did. "More ironclad" unlike those fungible laws. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 5, 2017 So because he wanted something that nobody else agreed on it and he went around the law to do it. That's fine it's his presidency and now it's expired and won't be continued. This is what the people want It is not factual that nobody else agreed. Again..educate yourself as to how attempts does in the past. I won't hold My breath on any of you doing that. Â And no...ending this is not what the people want. Again...educate yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 5, 2017 Because that is how you make a law. Would be more iron clad. Given how that went in the past and the failures...he went the route he did. Oh, the ole take my ball and go home move. Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 5, 2017 Why? Â They are here illegally. That simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted September 5, 2017 It is not factual that nobody else agreed. Again..educate yourself as to how attempts does in the past. I won't hold My breath on any of you doing that.  And no...ending this is not what the people want. Again...educate yourself. Then why didn't it pass thru congress come on educate me. Could it be because congress didn't agree? And of course far left nut bags and illegals don't want this to end. However we the United States of America voted for Trump as a voice that we are tired of taking care of illegals instead of our own. It was his number one platform and he's following thru on it  I truly don't care if you have been here since day 2 of your life or not. You are here illegally and while immigration reform may be necessary there is no law that says we have to take care of illegals or even have to let a single person in each year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 The illegals time us up. Â Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) is an American immigration policy founded by the Obama administration in June 2012. DACA allows certain illegal immigrants who entered the country as minors, to receive a renewable two-year period of deferred action from deportation and eligibility for a work permit. These are people who came here because of their parents. They work and attend school...they pay taxes. It's a net positive for the economy. Â Deporting DACA recipients would cost the US money and have a negative economic impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 They are here illegally. That simple. Punishing them for the sins of their parents? Classy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 6, 2017 Then why didn't it pass thru congress come on educate me. Could it be because congress didn't agree? And of course far left nut bags and illegals don't want this to end. However we the United States of America voted for Trump as a voice that we are tired of taking care of illegals instead of our own. It was his number one platform and he's following thru on it  I truly don't care if you have been here since day 2 of your life or not. You are here illegally and while immigration reform may be necessary there is no law that says we have to take care of illegals or even have to let a single person in each year Educate yourself just once. It won't matter...you'll still spout ignorance as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted September 6, 2017 These are people who came here because of their parents. They work and attend school...they pay taxes. It's a net positive for the economy. Â Deporting DACA recipients would cost the US money and have a negative economic impact. There is no deporting mentioned just that the policy is expiring and you have 6 months to figure it out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted September 6, 2017 Educate yourself just once. It won't matter...you'll still spout ignorance as usual. As always not a single fact you present. The burden of proof is on you. You say it's good. Prove it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites