NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 19, 2018 A very wise man once said that you can't talk your way out of a ticket, but you damn sure can talk yourself into one. So focking true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted April 19, 2018 Is there anything they can’t ruin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted April 19, 2018 Dumb spiked hair NIG just said he realizes they DID NOT follow the rules. Consequences can suck some times. The point is, has anyone ever been arrested for this? Has a white person ever been arrested for this? Because it was a couple of black men, that's why the cops were called. But idk if they were being obnoxious or what Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted April 19, 2018 A very wise man once said that you can't talk your way out of a ticket, but you damn sure can talk yourself into one. Friend of mine's wife was speeding home because she was feeling extremely nauseous. Cop pulls her over. She explains. He says too bad. She asks to get out of the car to puke. She pukes outside the car. Cop still writes the ticket. Ass wipe cop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted April 19, 2018 Friend of mine's wife was speeding home because she was feeling extremely nauseous. Cop pulls her over. She explains. He says too bad. She asks to get out of the car to puke. She pukes outside the car. Cop still writes the ticket. Ass wipe cop Drunk driving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted April 19, 2018 The point is, has anyone ever been arrested for this? Has a white person ever been arrested for this? Because it was a couple of black men, that's why the cops were called. But idk if they were being obnoxious or what Arrested for trespassing? Pretty sure a white person has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted April 19, 2018 So now these guys are saying they were there for a business meeting they'd been working on for months that could change their lives. If I set that up and it was so important I'm pretty sure I could splurge for a $3 cup of coffee so that my "conference room" was still available to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted April 19, 2018 So now these guys are saying they were there for a business meeting they'd been working on for months that could change their lives. If I set that up and it was so important I'm pretty sure I could splurge for a $3 cup of coffee so that my "conference room" was still available to me. They were waiting for Djgb and his BIL. It's all coming together. I have all my life changing meetings at Starbucks too. Has never let me down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 Arrested for trespassing? Pretty sure a white person has. Waiting for an associate in Starbucks is trespassing? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted April 19, 2018 Waiting for an associate in Starbucks is trespassing? lol It is once you've been told to leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 19, 2018 Waiting for an associate in Starbucks is trespassing? lol If you have been instructed to leave it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted April 19, 2018 It definitely is if they told you twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,569 Posted April 19, 2018 hmm its exactly as I laid it out on page 1 also if this life changing meeting was SOOOOOOOOOO important, why was the other dude late Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 If you have been instructed to leave it is. The whole point is that Starbucks wouldnt have asked them to leave in the first place if they didnt fit a certain profile. Neither would the cops have cuffed and removed them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted April 19, 2018 The whole point is that Starbucks wouldnt have asked them to leave in the first place if they didnt fit a certain profile. Neither would the cops have cuffed and removed them. Not arguing that. Just saying that when they were arrested, they were trespassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted April 19, 2018 The point is, has anyone ever been arrested for this? Has a white person ever been arrested for this? Arrested for what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted April 19, 2018 The whole point is that Starbucks wouldnt have asked them to leave in the first place if they didnt fit a certain profile. Neither would the cops have cuffed and removed them. That's an assumption on your part. Maybe the reason you don't hear about white people getting arrested for it is because.......if you ask them to leave if they're not buying anything they actually leave. It's not like these guys were arrested without warning. They were told a number of times, by both Starbucks and the police, to leave. If they'd simply have listened they wouldn't have been arrested. Is this that difficult to understand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted April 19, 2018 The whole point is that Starbucks wouldnt have asked them to leave in the first place if they didnt fit a certain profile. Neither would the cops have cuffed and removed them.Perhaps the employee experienced cognitive learning which led to the profiling, which turns out to have been justified. Im pretty sure that when the Panera employee said something to me at lunch time quite a few years ago because I was on my computer taking up a table while they were crowded, that had I refused to order or leave and did the same when police came, I would have suffered the same result as these guys. Life and obeying societys rules doesnt have to be as hard as people can sometimes make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 That's an assumption on your part. Maybe the reason you don't hear about white people getting arrested for it is because.......if you ask them to leave if they're not buying anything they actually leave. It's not like these guys were arrested without warning. They were told a number of times, by both Starbucks and the police, to leave. If they'd simply have listened they wouldn't have been arrested. Is this that difficult to understand? I understand that they were asked to leave, and if they complied they wouldnt have been arrested. What I dont understand is why a business that allows people to work there on laptops all afternoon soaking up free WiFi for a cup of coffee cares that two guys are sitting there waiting for a friend for 30 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted April 19, 2018 I understand that they were asked to leave, and if they complied they wouldnt have been arrested. What I dont understand is why a business that allows people to work there on laptops all afternoon soaking up free WiFi for a cup of coffee cares that two guys are sitting there waiting for a friend for 30 minutes.Only one of the groups in your example are customers. Had the other group bought something, they could have enjoyed the same hospitality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted April 19, 2018 I understand that they were asked to leave, and if they complied they wouldnt have been arrested. What I dont understand is why a business that allows people to work there on laptops all afternoon soaking up free WiFi for a cup of coffee cares that two guys are sitting there waiting for a friend for 30 minutes. I really hope you can get to the bottom of it. Any good coffee shops in fishtown? Perhaps that would be a good business venture for you. Maybe someone on here has a BIL that's great with businesses and could take you under his wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 Only one of the groups in your example are customers. Had the other group bought something, they could have enjoyed the same hospitality. So a $3 cup of coffee buys you unlimited office space and WiFi but wait for 30 minutes without buying anything and Starbucks asks you to leave and calls the cops if you dont. Seems like a weird policy to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,569 Posted April 19, 2018 I really hope you can get to the bottom of it. Any good coffee shops in fishtown? Perhaps that would be a good business venture for you. Maybe someone on here has a BIL that's great with businesses and could take you under his wing. yah I hope he can, and then he can get his honorary BLM membership badge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted April 19, 2018 So a $3 cup of coffee buys you unlimited office space and WiFi but wait for 30 minutes without buying anything and Starbucks asks you to leave and calls the cops if you dont. Seems like a weird policy to me. You are welcome to open your own coffee shop and let as many free loaders occupy the store as you want. I'm sure it will be hella successful!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 You are welcome to open your own coffee shop and let as many free loaders occupy the store as you want. I'm sure it will be hella successful!!! Darn those freeloaders taking advantage of Starbucks shelter and heat for 30 minutes while waiting for someone to show up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted April 19, 2018 Waiting for an associate in Starbucks is trespassing? lol The whole point is that Starbucks wouldnt have asked them to leave in the first place if they didnt fit a certain profile. Neither would the cops have cuffed and removed them. I understand that they were asked to leave, and if they complied they wouldnt have been arrested. What I dont understand is why a business that allows people to work there on laptops all afternoon soaking up free WiFi for a cup of coffee cares that two guys are sitting there waiting for a friend for 30 minutes. So a $3 cup of coffee buys you unlimited office space and WiFi but wait for 30 minutes without buying anything and Starbucks asks you to leave and calls the cops if you dont. Seems like a weird policy to me. Darn those freeloaders taking advantage of Starbucks shelter and heat for 30 minutes while waiting for someone to show up. I'm dizzy keeping up with your girations. Bwahahahaha! Douche Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 19, 2018 Darn those freeloaders taking advantage of Starbucks shelter and heat for 30 minutes while waiting for someone to show up. How do you know it was 30 minutes? Did the friend show up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 How do you know it was 30 minutes? Did the friend show up? I had read it was 30 minutes but cant recall the source. In the original article it says the friend (who is quoted) showed up and is on video telling the police that the men were waiting for him but they cuffed and detained these guys anyway. Theres also a quote from a Starbucks official saying the stores are community hubs where people show up to hang / use the WiFi without actually buying anything ie buy something or leave is not Starbucks policy. Looks like Strike and Alias Detective were 100% wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 19, 2018 I have never been in a Starbucks. And now I know I never will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 19, 2018 I had read it was 30 minutes but cant recall the source. In the original article it says the friend (who is quoted) showed up and is on video telling the police that the men were waiting for him but they cuffed and detained these guys anyway. Theres also a quote from a Starbucks official saying the stores are community hubs where people show up to hang / use the WiFi without actually buying anything ie buy something or leave is not Starbucks policy. It appears they have no policy at all about loitering, which I suppose means it's up to the manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 It appears they have no policy at all about loitering, which I suppose means it's up to the manager. Im sure corporate is delighted with this managers judgment call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 19, 2018 Im sure corporate is delighted with this managers judgment call. Yeah, since he the 1st manager ever to kick someone out. Fact is, while it's a snowflake nightmare, everyone did everything right. Customer wouldn't leave, police called, customer removed peacefully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted April 19, 2018 Yeah, since he the 1st manager ever to kick someone out. Fact is, while it's a snowflake nightmare, everyone did everything right. Customer wouldn't leave, police called, customer removed peacefully. Franchise apologizes, police decline to prosecute... they hit a home run with this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted April 19, 2018 Franchise apologizes, police decline to prosecute... they hit a home run with this one. Hopefully these guys show Starbucks and never have a meeting there again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted April 19, 2018 I have never been in a Starbucks. And now I know I never will. I met a headhunter at one once. I don't drink coffee so I didn't have anything. She did though. Thank god or we might have gotten arrested!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,617 Posted April 19, 2018 In the movie The Founder, about Ray Kroc, McDonald's, they go into Kroc saying the problem with Hanburger stands back then was too many people hanging around and not buying anything. He designed his first restaurant to prevent that type of behavior. It was 1950's suburban California. I guess that was racist too, wanting to keep all those white freeloaders away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,690 Posted April 19, 2018 Yeah, but Penny, this is where you and all the other apologists always end up. Well it's not everybody! So, since it's not everybody, we can't have a discussion about it. We can't recognize majority themes and trends and so nothing can be done to speak truth. Remove the log out of your eye then we can talk about the speck in my eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,037 Posted April 19, 2018 That's an assumption on your part. Maybe the reason you don't hear about white people getting arrested for it is because.......if you ask them to leave if they're not buying anything they actually leave. It's not like these guys were arrested without warning. They were told a number of times, by both Starbucks and the police, to leave. If they'd simply have listened they wouldn't have been arrested. Is this that difficult to understand? I read an article that said they said it went down like this: 1. They show up at 4:35 for a 4:45 meeting. 2. One asks for the restroom code. Manager says it's for customers only. 3. At 4:37 a call is logged with the police 4. Cops show up and they're dumbfounded. Sounds legit to me. Black dudes walk in. No one asked them to buy something or leave. They just went straight to 911 2 minutes after they walked in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted April 19, 2018 I read an article that said they said it went down like this: 1. They show up at 4:35 for a 4:45 meeting. 2. One asks for the restroom code. Manager says it's for customers only. 3. At 4:37 a call is logged with the police 4. Cops show up and they're dumbfounded. Sounds legit to me. Black dudes walk in. No one asked them to buy something or leave. They just went straight to 911 2 minutes after they walked in. Link to article? Who defined that timeline, the black guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted April 19, 2018 Yeah, thats not an accurate timeline. If so, the manager would never have time to hang up before having to call again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites