TD Ryan2 314 Posted February 25, 2015 Why? or Why not? America - land of the free, home of the brave, a shining city on a hill. OR America - politicians, fast food, celebrities, money, and scandals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted February 25, 2015 Love? Fock no. Appreciate? Fock yes. Like any poor girl that has dated me over the last 30 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted February 25, 2015 I think it's a good country that has allowed people to do great things. I'm not so sure about the future but I'll sure as hell do my part to make it a bright one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted February 25, 2015 Love it? Yes. My dad lived in a farmhouse with a dirt floor in Europe. He came over to the Bronx in the 50s ad lived in a 1 BR apt with his parents and 2 siblings. He's going to retire as VP of a Fortune 500 company this year after 40+ years with the same company. That is the American dream. Unfortunately that sort if thing is exceptionally rare these days. America is still great but it's not really exceptional anymore and there are other countries that offer as much. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted February 25, 2015 Yes, for all its faults, its by far the best country in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted February 25, 2015 Somewhere between the two examples you put out there. I'm grateful that I wasn't born in some Middle East or African sh1thole, and I'm appreciative that there is probably no other country in the world that offers the opportunities that this one does, but the whole uber-patriotic attitude of "We're the best, fock the rest" bugs the living sh1t out of me. If we can't look at our country critically, and I don't mean just criticizing politicians and their policies, and see where we've been and where we are wrong, then we're not as exceptional as we think we are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted February 25, 2015 I don't love it, but I do like it and wouldn't wanna live anywhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 25, 2015 They are plenty of other better places to live than America now. Likewise, there are also plenty of other worse places to live. Politicians have driven this country into the ground as well as society's thought process of they deserve everything and nothing is their fault. Spill a cup of coffee? Make a million dollars. Kill someone? Couple years then released on parole. Steal something? Slap on the wrist. Politicians? Make over 100K a year while they are in office and for the rest of their lives. Soldiers? Barely get paid and have to suffer not being seen in the VA for years and dying while waiting on care. President? Goes around the constitution to push his own agenda. Pass a bill just so you can actually read what's inside it? This countries priorities are all screwed up. I honestly love living in America but I do fear that the way things are progressing this country will eventually fall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 1,915 Posted February 25, 2015 Love it? Yes. Like it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted February 25, 2015 see... here's the thing... it's dangerous business to be running around saying you don't love America... I bet some posters avoided this thread altogether thinking, "no focking way I'm posting 'I don't love America'". can you imagine the uproar if some celebrity or talking head came straight out and proclaimed, "No I don't love America. I don't love this country... I like it... it's pretty good... but Love? No F'n way". It would certainly disqualify anyone from running for office. But the reality is... most people are pretty wishy-washy over it... most don't come right out and say definitively, unequivocally, that they love america. And that's probably part of the problem today... I think people really did love America 30 years ago. But today - skepticism and cynicism have jaded it. To me, this is as big a problem as the actual problems that have made people jaded. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted February 25, 2015 Yes, for all its faults, its by far the best country in the world. Oh yeah? you've live there to test out this? I hear Australia and Switzerland are pretty nice, but hey, you know best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted February 25, 2015 Oh but ain't that America for you and me Ain't that America somethin' to see baby Ain't that America home of the free Little pink houses for you and me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted February 25, 2015 Love it? Yes. Like it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted February 25, 2015 see... here's the thing... it's dangerous business to be running around saying you don't love America... I bet some posters avoided this thread altogether thinking, "no focking way I'm posting 'I don't love America'". can you imagine the uproar if some celebrity or talking head came straight out and proclaimed, "No I don't love America. I don't love this country... I like it... it's pretty good... but Love? No F'n way". It would certainly disqualify anyone from running for office. But the reality is... most people are pretty wishy-washy over it... most don't come right out and say definitively, unequivocally, that they love america. And that's probably part of the problem today... I think people really did love America 30 years ago. But today - skepticism and cynicism have jaded it. To me, this is as big a problem as the actual problems that have made people jaded. Agreed all around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted February 25, 2015 I love her and I dont want anyone else. But when we were first dating, I don't think I could have loved her more than then. I still love her, but now I se she's not perfect, and neither is anyone else. But if I did mess around, It would probably be wth a European. Maybe Ireland. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted February 25, 2015 see... here's the thing... it's dangerous business to be running around saying you don't love America... I bet some posters avoided this thread altogether thinking, "no focking way I'm posting 'I don't love America'". can you imagine the uproar if some celebrity or talking head came straight out and proclaimed, "No I don't love America. I don't love this country... I like it... it's pretty good... but Love? No F'n way". It would certainly disqualify anyone from running for office. But the reality is... most people are pretty wishy-washy over it... most don't come right out and say definitively, unequivocally, that they love america. And that's probably part of the problem today... I think people really did love America 30 years ago. But today - skepticism and cynicism have jaded it. To me, this is as big a problem as the actual problems that have made people jaded. A lot depends on what you think America is. America is a great idea. America is lousy politicians. America is terrific competition. America is speaking your mind. America is ugly strip malls. America is soaring skyscapers. America is Yosemite. America is big city slums. 30 years ago, I was 20 and people felt the same way about America. a lot about America has gotten worse over the past 30 years but a lot has gotten better too. In my mind America is still a place that lets you be yourself. What you make of yourself depends on you. When I say I love America it is like loving a family member. America is part of me and I am part of it. I have visited many countries and I hold my head up high when i tell someone my nationality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted February 25, 2015 I love her and I dont want anyone else. But when we were first dating, I don't think I could have loved her more than then. I still love her, but now I se she's not perfect, and neither is anyone else. But if I did mess around, It would probably be wth a European. Maybe Ireland. Your only chance with another, would be a drunk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted February 25, 2015 Your only chance with another, would be a drunk? You should see her when she's not drunk. And having been all over Europe, I can tell you Ireland is no where near the top of the drunken list. All of Eastern Europe is worse, and Spain? Ooof they stay drunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted February 25, 2015 You should see her when she's not drunk. And having been all over Europe, I can tell you Ireland is no where near the top of the drunken list. All of Eastern Europe is worse, and Spain? Ooof they stay drunk. Italy are drunkards too, arent they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted February 25, 2015 Your only chance with another, would be a drunk? A red-headed drunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted February 25, 2015 Never been to Italy, going next year, chaparone for a rugby team. Won't cost me much. I love redheads, my favorite flavor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted February 25, 2015 America, Fock Yeah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted February 25, 2015 There's some parts I love, more I like, and quite a bit I'm not a fan of at all. It's where all my stuff is, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted February 25, 2015 The amount of scum now living in this once great country makes me sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted February 26, 2015 It's where all my stuff is, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 26, 2015 The amount of scum now living in this once great country makes me sick. Hang in there, the number of libs is dwindling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 26, 2015 I tell America I love it, but that's only when I want a beejer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 26, 2015 Hang in there, the number of libs is dwindling. and the tea party went the way of Occupy Wall Street. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 26, 2015 and the tea party went the way of Occupy Wall Street. I guess you slept thru the last mid term election..........or were passed out for November. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 26, 2015 I guess you slept thru the last mid term election..........or were passed out for November. and I guess this and fox are the only two websites you ever hit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 26, 2015 and I guess this and fox are the only two websites you ever hit? Nope. The last election was in all the papers, Lush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted February 26, 2015 i appreciate America, but there are other countries I prefer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 26, 2015 its great other than that pesky fundemamel transformation its going through, we clean house of the country haters running the show and we can get back to the path of greatness again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 645 Posted February 26, 2015 Sad commentary. This is the best focking country in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted February 26, 2015 Love America and all the opportunities it provides. Not a fan of over the top patriotism though. Just seems fake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 26, 2015 Nope. The last election was in all the papers, Lush. http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/texas-primary-tea-party-ads-fail-shake-primary-22772361 http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-fixs-week-in-politics-lamar-alexander-foils-tea-party-senate-shake-up-in-montana/2014/08/10/b7aedc1a-1b42-11e4-ae54-0cfe1f974f8a_story.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/11/the_tea_party_lost_big_on_election_night_and_must_now_work_with_gop_to_bounce.html http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/16896-gop-establishment-blames-tea-party-for-election-failures http://www.wnd.com/2011/12/374237/ hehehe, even the GOP is blaming the Tea Party. But we all know, you're just looking for someone to pay attention to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 26, 2015 You are in over your head, Sot. Tea Party leaders are celebrating their victories at the polls. An examination of the results of the 2014 general elections by the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights reveals that Tea Party endorsed candidates continued to outperform at the ballot box this year. National Tea Party groups, most notably FreedomWorks and Tea Party Patriots, endorsed 80 candidates for federal office in yesterdays general election. Tea Party endorsed candidates ended up winning 58 of those racesa 73% winning percentage. https://www.irehr.org/issue-areas/tea-party-nationalism/tea-party-news-and-analysis/610-tea-party-election-2014 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 26, 2015 You are in over your head, Sot. Tea Party leaders are celebrating their victories at the polls. An examination of the results of the 2014 general elections by the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights reveals that Tea Party endorsed candidates continued to outperform at the ballot box this year. National Tea Party groups, most notably FreedomWorks and Tea Party Patriots, endorsed 80 candidates for federal office in yesterdays general election. Tea Party endorsed candidates ended up winning 58 of those racesa 73% winning percentage. https://www.irehr.org/issue-areas/tea-party-nationalism/tea-party-news-and-analysis/610-tea-party-election-2014 HAHAHHAHAHA GOGOP establishment Blames Tea Party for Election Failures You think so, huh? http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/16896-gop-establishment-blames-tea-party-for-election-failures God, you crack me up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted February 26, 2015 HAHAHHAHAHA GO You think so, huh? http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/16896-gop-establishment-blames-tea-party-for-election-failures God, you crack me up. Holy cow! Your first link is establishment Reps whining about Ted Cruz and a govt shutdown. Has nothing to do with elections. Your second link is shiot. Has nothing to do with anything regarding Tea Party candidates and election. Go sleep it off, Fukking moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted February 26, 2015 Five focking obvious links - and that's all you've got? So, just to be clear: RP/HH is a Tea Party Supporter? Just yes or no biitch. God, you're sad and lonely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
