brotherbock 349 Posted November 4, 2017 So after Zeke was rerererereinstated, I dropped one of the three other Dallas RBs (DMC...kept the other two!) and picked up Damien Williams, as Drake was gone. Anyone have any good insight about Williams/Drake? Seems like everyone agrees that Drake will get the first two downs, with Williams being COP or 3rd down. Any reason to question that? Just checked out Oakland's performance against RBs--Thompson, CJ, Buck, Gordon, Hunt (a bit) and McCoy have all done very well against them. Jets in week 1 are the only team OAK's held on the ground. At the moment, the only spot I'd think about Williams in would be flexing, where I've got Abdullah at the moment. Not thinking either of these MIA guys will explode, but anyone think they could 'do well' this weekend? Thoughts heading forward appreciated too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobjay00 22 Posted November 4, 2017 If the more talented Ajayi couldn't do any good with that O-Line I don't think Drake/Williams will either, plus the word is Drake is injury prone and probably wont hold up as an every down back. IMO Williams is the better RB but only in PPR leagues and he may act as the goal line back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted November 5, 2017 If the more talented Ajayi couldn't do any good with that O-Line I don't think Drake/Williams will either, plus the word is Drake is injury prone and probably wont hold up as an every down back. IMO Williams is the better RB but only in PPR leagues and he may act as the goal line back. Goal line back, huh? Good to know. Jay had 4 games I'd be happy to have out of my Flex spot some weeks. And there are people who are doubting his talent in a number of places. I haven't watched much Phins ball, so I don't know. Add in some PPR catches...I don't know that it's insane to think one of these guys could be flex-worthy. Maybe. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottsind 61 Posted November 5, 2017 I actually like Willams more out of the two as Damien has a nose for the end zone when he gets his chances and in a situation where you do not know what is going to happen you might as well roster the rb with the most opportunities to score, which is Damien as the goal line back. Not sure how good Cutler is at passing to running backs (Forte and him had a good connection), but Miami doesnt look great and I suspect should be playing from behind; thus, making Damien see the field more as the preferred passing down back. He should be better set up for garbage points. Hey, garbage points are still points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottsind 61 Posted November 5, 2017 I even am contemplating starting him over CJ Anderson due to match up. I think the gutsy and better match up play is to start Damien, but as I have posted before I play very conservative so CJ Anderson it is. Philly is going to crush them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted November 5, 2017 I actually like Willams more out of the two as Damien has a nose for the end zone when he gets his chances and in a situation where you do not know what is going to happen you might as well roster the rb with the most opportunities to score, which is Damien as the goal line back. Not sure how good Cutler is at passing to running backs (Forte and him had a good connection), but Miami doesnt look great and I suspect should be playing from behind; thus, making Damien see the field more as the preferred passing down back. He should be better set up for garbage points. Hey, garbage points are still points. Good points and explanation here, thanks. And he's still a dark horse to start over Abdullah for me. I'm getting tired of getting disappointed by Abs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobby heenan 60 Posted November 5, 2017 im real thin at rb as i lost dalvin cook weeks ago...i was rostering kamara, mccaffrey, cohen, prosise and riddick....i just picked up williams this morning and dropped cohen as his opportunities were, inexplicably, becoming less.....had to take a shot at a rb that can get some opportunities....always a chance drake gets hurt or plays his way out of the job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottsind 61 Posted November 6, 2017 Williams doing what he does best. Catch the ball and score tds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,375 Posted November 6, 2017 How many snaps has Drake had? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottsind 61 Posted November 6, 2017 Too many with that fumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted November 6, 2017 Minus Drake's fumble, I think they both looked motivated and played well tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 568 Posted November 6, 2017 What was interesting to me was in the last few minutes of the fourth quarter down two scores the dolphins had drake in there every snap. The announcers talked about williams' being far superior in pass protection, but the fins went with drake in that spot. Perhaps they liked the big play ability of drake better down two scores, but it was curious. Either way I like Drake as a match-up based flex play going forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 6, 2017 Damien looks like the pass pro, 3rd down and GL back. Drake looks undersized as the early down back. Think I like having a share of Williams over Drake, but roles can change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 568 Posted November 6, 2017 Damien looks like the pass pro, 3rd down and GL back. Drake looks undersized as the early down back. Think I like having a share of Williams over Drake, but roles can change Drake listed at 6-1: 211, Williams 5-11: 224 not enough of a difference there to call drake undersized, but I don't have a problem with a preference for Williams after round 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted November 6, 2017 Damien looks like the pass pro, 3rd down and GL back. Drake looks undersized as the early down back. Think I like having a share of Williams over Drake, but roles can change I've got some Williams. May even be starting him next week with some bye difficulties. Not feeling terribly about that in PPR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted November 6, 2017 Drake listed at 6-1: 211, Williams 5-11: 224 not enough of a difference there to call drake undersized, but I don't have a problem with a preference for Williams after round 1. 13 pounds heavier and 2 inches shorter is somewhat significant. Not a huge difference, but not insignificant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 568 Posted November 6, 2017 13 pounds heavier and 2 inches shorter is somewhat significant. Not a huge difference, but not insignificant. Melvin Gordon listed at 6-1 215. Were kind of splitting hairs here but my point is drake isn't really undersized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottsind 61 Posted November 6, 2017 Beside Drakes huge run, which is crazy that the o line opened up a hole for him like that (because the right side is absolute garbage), I think Williams will be the preferred back to own. I knew the game was over when James went down as they have 0 quality depth on an already horrible o-line. Williams will be used to chip block and then go out for passes for the rest of the season. I think they will throw Drake out there just to see if he is potentially a RB of the future, but I just don't see it. He will be on the squad until his rookie contract expires and then, he gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 568 Posted November 6, 2017 Beside Drakes huge run, which is crazy that the o line opened up a hole for him like that (because the right side is absolute garbage), I think Williams will be the preferred back to own. I knew the game was over when James went down as they have 0 quality depth on an already horrible o-line. Williams will be used to chip block and then go out for passes for the rest of the season. I think they will throw Drake out there just to see if he is potentially a RB of the future, but I just don't see it. He will be on the squad until his rookie contract expires and then, he gone. They'll throw drake out there because he averages over 5 yards a carry on a fifty carry sample size versus Williams 3.2 yds a carry on over a 100 carry sample size, dolphins still want to win games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites