Rashean Mathis 0 Posted August 12, 2017 Another foot surgery, always seems to have nagging injuries, I don't think he will last. I rate Mike Evans ahead of him and would consider several other top wideouts. Am I crazy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaxjag 43 Posted August 12, 2017 Another foot surgery, always seems to have nagging injuries, I don't think he will last. I rate Mike Evans ahead of him and would consider several other top wideouts. Am I crazy? two games against the Saints at play-off time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted August 12, 2017 Another foot surgery, always seems to have nagging injuries, I don't think he will last. I rate Mike Evans ahead of him and would consider several other top wideouts. Am I crazy? So are you saying he's a 2nd round player? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted August 12, 2017 I have him on my DND every year. It's Not just you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted August 12, 2017 I never drafted him and still wont. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 12, 2017 Plenty reasonable to have him as DND. He is a headache waiting to happen, even if he is a monster when he plays. Also for as dominant as he is, he really doesnt get in the end zone much. 6tds last year? He's had 10 1 time, in 2012. I prefer AJG anyway, even though he has had injuries of his own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wizbang 10 Posted August 12, 2017 Those people would be called easy money. In PPR, Julio was #2 and #6 in 2015 and 2016 respectively (#2 and # 4 in points per week average). He missed 2 games in 2 years. I can see a case for Mike Evans, you're going with trajectory over proven results. But guys like AJ Green, 29 year old McCoy, lightly proven and injured Gordon? Over Julio? That's a loser strategy IMO. McCoy missed three games in 2015 and most of 2 games last year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted August 12, 2017 If you all want to pass on Julio I would be more than happy taking him at the end of the first round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted August 12, 2017 If you all want to pass on Julio I would be more than happy taking him at the end of the first round. Where does he go in a 12 man league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 402 Posted August 12, 2017 I'm not drafting him where he's usually selected but if he falls a bit I would The foot problem worries me as does his usual injury woes The more they pile up, sooner or later it catches up to them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 589 Posted August 12, 2017 Plenty reasonable to have him as DND. He is a headache waiting to happen, even if he is a monster when he plays. Also for as dominant as he is, he really doesnt get in the end zone much. 6tds last year? He's had 10 1 time, in 2012. I prefer AJG anyway, even though he has had injuries of his own. this. He's a guy who gets you fantasy points from mega yardage. Not from TD. You could get TY Hilton for less cash and get almost the same result because he's also a yardage player who does not score TD's. I acknowledge TY hilton isnt as good, and wont get as many fantasy points, but you will get him a lot cheaper and relative to the price you pay for him, he will give you a better result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Football Guru 211 Posted August 12, 2017 Another foot surgery, always seems to have nagging injuries, I don't think he will last. I rate Mike Evans ahead of him and would consider several other top wideouts. Am I crazy? I traded FOR him in dynasty and, yes, his foot problems scare me. Having said that, he finished second in the league in receiving last year despite missing two games and is probably the freakiest talent at the position. He is at the age he should be entering the prime of his career and I've seen some studies that suggest players are less "injury-prone" the longer they stay in the league, presumably because they learn to avoid contact more often. Granted, we are talking about a 2-3 year window before he probably is no longer in his prime, but I think he is a player you take in the mid-to-late first round and hope his foot is finally fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 13, 2017 Where does he go in a 12 man league? 3, 4 or 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted August 13, 2017 have had him once (his rookie season in 2011) and looking back over our drafts only once since then did a team who took him have a good season (2014). anecdotal for sure but still manages to scare me away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wizbang 10 Posted August 13, 2017 have had him once (his rookie season in 2011) and looking back over our drafts only once since then did a team who took him have a good season (2014). anecdotal for sure but still manages to scare me away. Huh? He was the #2 overall WR in PPR points in 2015 (didn't miss a game). I'd call that value as he was 2nd to 4th off the board. Then last year he was 6th (4th in ppg) missing just 2 games. Cumulatively he posted the second best WR points over the last two seasons. Look, you can find reasons to not like almost any guy after the top 3 but be honest with yourself. And we all know first round busts happen a lot. Passing on Julio after those three is going with gut as opposed to any rational view of him versus all but 1-2 viable alternatives. Any PPR league where he slides past six at the lowest is a league ripe for dominating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 13, 2017 Huh? He was the #2 overall WR in PPR points in 2015 (didn't miss a game). I'd call that value as he was 2nd to 4th off the board. Then last year he was 6th (4th in ppg) missing just 2 games. Cumulatively he posted the second best WR points over the last two seasons. Look, you can find reasons to not like almost any guy after the top 3 but be honest with yourself. And we all know first round busts happen a lot. Passing on Julio after those three is going with gut as opposed to any rational view of him versus all but 1-2 viable alternatives. Any PPR league where he slides past six at the lowest is a league ripe for dominating. Look deeper into his year last season. Missed 2 games, ok fine no prob, even though it was during the fantasy playoffs, buh bye. He also had a 300yd game to fudge his stats, good luck getting that again. Scored 6tds, not many. Was a decoy for at least a few games and generally just killed owners. Anyone I see who enjoyed his "great" year last season has vowed to not own him again this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted August 13, 2017 Huh? He was the #2 overall WR in PPR points in 2015 (didn't miss a game). I'd call that value as he was 2nd to 4th off the board. Then last year he was 6th (4th in ppg) missing just 2 games. Cumulatively he posted the second best WR points over the last two seasons. Look, you can find reasons to not like almost any guy after the top 3 but be honest with yourself. And we all know first round busts happen a lot. Passing on Julio after those three is going with gut as opposed to any rational view of him versus all but 1-2 viable alternatives. Any PPR league where he slides past six at the lowest is a league ripe for dominating. Tried to say it was anecdotal....theres obviously other reasons a team sucks than whether their 1st rounder pans out. For whatever reason Julio has cursed teams more often than carried them the last 5 seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted August 14, 2017 Julio Jones - WR - Falcons Falcons.com's Kelsey Conway reports the team has shown a "real emphasis" on getting Julio Jones more red-zone touches during camp. New OC Steve Sarkisian said that was his goal all the way back in June. After being targeted just nine times in the red zone and six times inside the 10 last season, Jones should see more work near the goal line this year, which will hopefully allow him to score more than the six touchdowns he managed in 2016. Jones is locked in as a top-three fantasy receiver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted August 14, 2017 Where does he go in a 12 man league? Anywhere from 4th to 8th would be normal. I see on FFC he has gone anywhere from first overall to the 10th overall. He has yet to fall out of the first round, especially since he's considered to be the second or third best WR according to pretty much everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted August 14, 2017 If you have 5K posts and don't know what Julio's ADP is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted August 15, 2017 If you have 5K posts and don't know what Julio's ADP is Context. My point was to Hawkeye, you don't get him at the end of round one in a 12 man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted August 15, 2017 Context. My point was to Hawkeye, you don't get him at the end of round one in a 12 man. No doubt. He's pretty locked into top 5-6-7 especially with Zeke acting up. I was just messing anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
envoy9 5 Posted August 16, 2017 So I have him in my dynasty league and he has paid off. That being said, in my redraft league I am a seller in the mid 1st rnd and a buyer in the late 1st. Agree with all of the posts about him being a better value than risky RB like Gordon and McCoy, and I also don't see AJ Green as a better alternative. However, in the mid 1st, I like devonta, demarco, Jordy Nelson, Mike Evans, ODB better.... I just think there's more upside with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
