sjm76 2 Posted December 14, 2015 Here's the situation. I am currently up in my yahoo league playoff game 130-128. My opponent doesn't have any players left to go and I have Lamar Miller. If I bench Miller and leave my #2 rb spot empty, the only way my opponent would win is if there is a yahoo stat correction which are rare. I know it's unlikely to happen but if I leave Miller in there is a chance that he can fumble once or twice (lost fumbles are -2 in my league) and my opponent still has a very small chance to tie or even win. What would you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTL99 34 Posted December 14, 2015 Play him. No doubt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted December 14, 2015 If its that close play him. I would hate for you to be on the news as a suicide due to ffball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 Bench him! That way the tension lasts all the way until stat corrections are in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted December 14, 2015 You play to win the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 You play to win the game You are who you thought you were! And you let you off the hook! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted December 14, 2015 I am currently up in my yahoo league playoff game 130-128. Here is your answer: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 Here is your answer: But in this case, sitting Miller would be more akin to taking the kneeldown to run out the clock, wouldn't it? Perfectly acceptable to not try to score more points in order to avoid the risk of losing the lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted December 14, 2015 But in this case, sitting Miller would be more akin to taking the kneeldown to run out the clock, wouldn't it? Perfectly acceptable to not try to score more points in order to avoid the risk of losing the lead. I understand the logic, and this type of question emerges every year about this time. However, akin to throwing a game to play a certain opponent in the playoffs, this type of decision is bad fantasy ju-ju. I have seen it many times....and experienced it once. I never made that mistake again, nor advised others to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 I understand the logic, and this type of question emerges every year about this time. However, akin to throwing a game to play a certain opponent in the playoffs, this type of decision is bad fantasy ju-ju. I have seen it many times....and experienced it once. I never made that mistake again, nor advised others to. I agree about not doing it, I wouldn't (and haven't when I've had the chance) either. But my reasons are entirely psychological--I would feel worse if I lost on the stat change than if I lose because a guy gets me negs. I don't believe in juju (participating in the FU thread isn't anything more than fun), but I do believe in playing to make myself the happiest. That said, I don't think it's akin to throwing a game for seeding--I don't think it's bad sportsmanship. But I also would leave him in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted December 14, 2015 I agree about not doing it, I wouldn't (and haven't when I've had the chance) either. But my reasons are entirely psychological--I would feel worse if I lost on the stat change than if I lose because a guy gets me negs. I don't believe in juju (participating in the FU thread isn't anything more than fun), but I do believe in playing to make myself the happiest. That said, I don't think it's akin to throwing a game for seeding--I don't think it's bad sportsmanship. But I also would leave him in. Ah, ju-ju is a constantly present fantasy reality, my friend (Is "fantasy reality" oxymoronic?). Nevertheless, it seems that we are in basic agreement......just coming from different angles. Interestingly, my leagues consider an empty starting roster spot and illegal lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 Interestingly, my leagues consider an empty starting roster spot and illegal lineup. What's the punishment, out of curiosity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
track 1 16 Posted December 14, 2015 You might get on stat corrections Tuesday morning and lose by a few points. Play him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted December 14, 2015 What's the punishment, out of curiosity? Forfeit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted December 14, 2015 You play to win the game Helloooo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 Forfeit Man. Maybe I need to be more of a harda$$ in the leagues I commish. That sounds like a tempting rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yseguy22 8 Posted December 14, 2015 Actually in my league there is a rule that you must field a full team during playoffs. Preventing collusion and tanking (by non-playoff teams). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woble Eth 11 Posted December 14, 2015 Not sure why this is even up for debate? Unless you have a viable player to replace him with, he stays. You started him, deal with the repercussions, good or bad. If you removed him, and his play resulted in a negative performance, your opponent should beat a path to the commissioner's door. Illegal, incomplete, whatever you want to call it.. Should Miller royally crap the bed (and if he does, you are perhaps the most unluckiest fantasy player evah) oh well! It happens. Why rob your opponent of that? That poor fella is behind and managed to start a complete team. And he could shock the world. Take that slim chance.. I'm sure you'll be fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 Why rob your opponent of that? That poor fella is behind and managed to start a complete team. And he could shock the world. Good points, but to be fair, I doubt the world is watching Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woble Eth 11 Posted December 14, 2015 Good points, but to be fair, I doubt the world is watching If it happened to me, they surely would. Close-captioned, the whole nine yards. (or negative 9 yards) LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 14, 2015 If it happened to me, they surely would. Close-captioned, the whole nine yards. (or negative 9 yards) LOL And, you know...this weekend out of any weekend would be the weekend for a guy to get one carry, get slammed for a fumble, shatter his ankle, and be done for the day. Rawls, Ware, Blount...and Miller. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Muffin Man 6 Posted December 14, 2015 Bench him - if he doesn't see the field he can't get hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,736 Posted December 14, 2015 What's the punishment, out of curiosity? I'm pretty sure you have to go down on Courtney Love Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted December 15, 2015 2 pts seems plenty safe from stat correction. I'd take the 100% win. I've seen people lose in situations like this. usually a defense though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 979 Posted December 15, 2015 I do hope this happens to Lamar Miller though, and Tannehill too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maroon Bells 18 Posted December 15, 2015 Play him. A stat correction is far more likely than Miller giving you -2 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted December 15, 2015 I think you are safe now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 15, 2015 Hopefully for your sake he doesn't fumble 13 times between now and the end of the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjm76 2 Posted December 15, 2015 I played him and I can breathe easy now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted December 15, 2015 2 pts seems plenty safe from stat correction. I'd take the 100% win. I've seen people lose in situations like this. usually a defense though. I have seen passing TDs turn into rushing. Ouch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted December 15, 2015 I have seen passing TDs turn into rushing. Ouch. They took away Khalil Mack's safety between yesterday and today. Just a sack now. That was more than two points. (By they, I mean Yahoo...NFL Stat corrections don't come till Wed.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted December 15, 2015 But in this case, sitting Miller would be more akin to taking the kneeldown to run out the clock, wouldn't it? Perfectly acceptable to not try to score more points in order to avoid the risk of losing the lead. If there was no chance of a stat correction i would say benching him is fine (if allowed by the league). The possible stat correction is why i said he should start miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted December 16, 2015 Always play him. Otherwise the defense will get a stat correction and cost you those 2 points, guaranteed. As said before, that's more likely than him pulling a Travis Henry from that one year. He had like 2 carries for 2 fumbles then got hurt, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites