Ray_T

well, I dont fully agree. 2 back to back good years proves the first good year wasnt a fluke. if he was drafted high in the first round hed have a year and a bit of good production along with the pedigree as he performed at a super high level in college. but he was the last pick of the NFL draft. he needs to prove it a bit more if he wants to get top dollar. Personally I think part of his value comes from the system and team he plays with. outstanding weapons on offense and a good O line that keeps him from facing too much heat. if he goes elsewhere the situation isnt nearly as good. his best value as a player is where he is at. another top notch season and hes getting top dollar from multiple offers. it becomes the whole Kirk Cousins thing where his value just kept going up. and he is definitely in the situation to make that happen. screwing around with a holdout with 2 years left on his contract? not a good idea.

I was never suggesting you thought Dak was worth 60M. I just saw it as a market comparable. I was mostly pointing out that the market is also crazy because I dont think Dak is worth 60M either. but that seems to be where the market is for top 10 QB's. I dont honestly know that ANY player should be worth this much. either way, the team has a cap crunch coming. drafting a WR to replace one of the departing ones may not be a bad idea. and drafting a TE to replace an aging kittle in a year or so may also not be a bad idea. but that's their problem not mine (thankfully)

I dont know that Dak is worth 60M but I'd say that Purdy is on par with Dak. (maybe a little better) either way, the players on this team perform (in part) because the team was put together so that all the pieces combined are more than the collective whole. as a player I'd want to remain in an organization that is maximizing my talent. I dont see any of these guys performing better anywhere else. (with one or two possible exceptions) but at the end of the day the team wont be able to keep all the WR and Brock Purdy. there simply isnt enough cap space. I think Deebo is the guy to go but I could be wrong. and if Aiyuk is making too many waves, maybe he will be the guy to move.

certainly possible. but if he does want out, the time to make a fuss is now. team can trade him for a player or a pick and its a very deep draft for WR. if moving on from a big contract and going for youth at the position, this is the time to do it.

yeah, I'm willing to take my chances on the ACL. its not the career ender it once was unless you tear it multiple times. But its usually a full 18 month recovery (possibly 24 if complications arise post surgery). But the Ball security is best left to others unless you are certain pro coaching can fix that issue. In the past I've found that this issue is coachable in some cases..... but truly it gets corrected around 50% of the time (and that may be generous) That likely means your player sees a lot of the bench until that issue gets resolved. (if it gets resolved)

I actually like this kid. and whoever gets him will get a discount due to the ACL injury. granted I wouldnt expect a big rookie year due to the injury. but if I'm drafting him I dont mind having him red shirt the first half of the season and then bring him along slowly when hes not under the microscope. especially if the line isnt all that good to start (as is the case with some teams) then sitting wouldnt be a terrible thing while the team takes steps to sort out the line. I think if he can return to the form I saw on tape, hes got the potential. I like the way he runs through contact or can weave his way through a very small hole opened up by his blockers. Thats pro calibre skill. but like I said, I wouldnt expect anything this year, but next year could be a nice one for him.

it might be true. Just because hes denying it doesnt mean it didnt happen. he was sort of at odds with his coach there for a couple of years. its possible that this never truly got resolved. either way, if he suddenly gets traded and it surprises a few, then we will know there may have been something to this rumour.

and that happens sometimes especially with the 5 star recruits who get a ton of carries in high school and pre HS. then a pile of carries the whole college career. all that, and maybe an injury and there may not be enough in the tank for the kid to play out the full length of his rookie contract to get to the big money. maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but not THAT much

my mother died of cancer and the high quality pain meds can only do so much. Trust me. in those last couple of weeks she was wanting it to end. Not to be morbid but this is one area where a big pile o cash wont do you much good.

I dont like his fumbling. but sometimes that can be fixed with coaching. I'd say 50% of the time it cannot be fixed. but thats likely one of the reasons he wont be a day 1 pick and may not be a day 2 pick either. once you get into day 3 picks the upside is usually worth the risk and you pick him with a thought to developing or fixing the flaws in that diamond in the rough. If a team with a good coach sees why hes fumbling and thinks he can fix it, he may go on day 2. but day 3 is likely where he belongs in this draft.

I dunno. its a long and often painful way to go. while there are worse ways to go, I would not go so far as to say its a nice way to leave this earth.

yeah so many times hed get 3-4 yards before first contact and because zeke was a beast hed either fall forward for an extra yard or two or hed break the tackle and get another pile o' yards once he got into the secondary. that was one line where they probably just could have run the ball every play and the other team would have been helpless to stop them. and for a year or so while Dak was learning to be a pro, thats basically what they did.

he was also running behind what many considered to be the best O line in pro football. That line was awesome.

I'm sure they discount the tickets by the price of one game so nobody gets cheezed. is it that big a deal? you gotta give allowances for the league to grow the game.

followup: I like to go back and look at the results at the end of the year to see where the champion won the draft and to see what I could have done better. also to look for trends in the stats that may give me an edge for future drafts. if going back to analyze a draft isnt for you, this isnt a post you want to read, so I'll save you the trouble. but for those who do care, this is a good group of drafters who know their stuff (for the most part) and I think there are lessons to be learned here if you care to read. July 2023 PPR Mock - Results - The Mocking Station - FFToday Forums the link takes you to the mock results posted in the mocking station. Fantasy Football: 2023 FFToday: July Mock (myfantasyleague.com) this link takes you to the scoring page. This is a basic high level analysis. I could go deeper into the stats if people request it, but honestly I'm just looking to point out interesting data that may help you in your strategy when you draft yourself. First, congrats to Worm who won the draft. top 6 results as follows: 1. Worm 2507 points 2. Robb 2441 points 3. Ray_T 2281 points 4. White Wonder 2266 points 5. Shovelheadt 2257 points 6 Iceman 2238 points So Worm won in a landslide, how did he win? He had 2 top 10 QBs and neither were drafted early. He had the #5 RB and the #3, 19, and #30 WR an interesting trend is that 5 of the top 6 teams all had top QB's on their roster. Worm had the #3 and #9 QB, Robb had the #2 and #14 QB I had the #1 QB, White Wonder had the #10 and #12 QB and Shovelhead had the #6 QB this makes a pretty good case for making sure you nail the QB pick (wherever in the draft you happen to take it) Best 2 RB was taken By Hawkeye, but White Wonder took the #3, 10, and the #12 ranked RB. (outstanding) Robb took the #4 and the #8 RB at WR Ralphster took the #1 WR and the #21 ranked WR Remote took the #2 and the #20 and worm took the #3 and #17 ranked WR Robb took the #5 ranked (but #4 in the draft as the #4 ranked WR went undrafted) and the #18 ranked WR the only true correlation to results was that all the top teams had a top 12 QB and in some cases two of them. anyhow, thats all I got. food for everyones thoughts. I look forward to some discussion from those who wish to talk strategy as well as what went right and wrong for some teams. one other trend I found was many of the teams at the bottom of the standings suffered with injuries (which is fairly typical actually) cheers guys. Lets try to keep this discussion productive.