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Lonzo Ball not even shooting 30% from the floor

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Was there anyone who didn’t know this kid would be a colossal bust? What a fleece they pulled over the Lakers eyes.

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The kid can't shoot and his technique is horrid. You can't make it in this league anymore if you are that much a liability on offense. Jason Kidd couldn't shoot for most of his career but the zone defense was not allowed back in those days. You still had to guard him and couldn't leave him open. Very easy to defend Ball and dare him to shoot.

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I've watched most of the games. He's doing a lot of other things. He shot a decent percentage, even with his funky mechanics, at UCLA. Magic Johnson couldn't shoot a lick when he got to the NBA either. The Lakers are a much better team than they've been the last couple of years, and he's part of that. All you want is progress, and they're making some.

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Why hasn't anyone bothered to fix this kid's shot?

 

Is he even willing to listen to someone other than his brilliant legend father (who is almost certainly responsible for that abortion of a technique in the first place)?

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He has great ball handling skills and is a great passer.

But he seems a little passive at times and his outside shot is horrible right now.

 

Definitely too early to call him a bust. I think his attitude will determine how good he becomes. Jordan, Bird and Magic are three examples of determined players who kept adding to their game every year. Not sure if Ball has that fire in him.

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Is he even willing to listen to someone other than his brilliant legend father (who is almost certainly responsible for that abortion of a technique in the first place)?

I dunno but I thought I read somewhere where Walton wasn't concerned about his technique.

 

If true, Walton's a moron too.

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I'm a Lakers fan but I don't really like the players, especially the high picks Ball and Ingram. meh

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Seems like he is a Tim Tebow type of player in that you have to build an offense around his eccentric style... he seems more like a piece of a good team than the type of player you build around.

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im more worried about our #1...im not big bball fan but geeezus

 

 

Yeah. That's bad. I know a lot of the game is above the rim, but how do these kids make it the NBA when they can't shoot?

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Fultz is shut down due to shoulder strain. Watch his shot from college and summer league - he will be fine.

 

Lonzo will be fine too. He may never be a good shooter but hes such a good passer and athlete it wont matter as much.

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Fultz is shut down due to shoulder strain. Watch his shot from college and summer league - he will be fine.

 

Lonzo will be fine too. He may never be a good shooter but hes such a good passer and athlete it wont matter as much.

I disagree on Ball. He's gonna be a liability until he proves worthy of guarding on the perimeter.

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I've watched most of the games. He's doing a lot of other things. He shot a decent percentage, even with his funky mechanics, at UCLA. Magic Johnson couldn't shoot a lick when he got to the NBA either. The Lakers are a much better team than they've been the last couple of years, and he's part of that. All you want is progress, and they're making some.

A point I heard today was that his release is so slow and he is not athletic in terms of NBA talent....forces him to shoot quicker. College is a much more catch and square up game that let him get by with average athleicism

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Was there anyone who didnt know this kid would be a colossal bust? What a fleece they pulled over the Lakers eyes.

As big a fleece as danny ferry at least

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At least there's guys like Ben Simmons and Jaylen Brown, those were great draft picks and very good NBA players already. And the year before those guys: Devin Booker, Kristaps Porzingis, Karl-Anthony Towns, D'Angelo Russell.

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Another Triple Double :banana:

 

Were a long way from good, and his shot will need some serious adjustment over the next couple years, but atleast were playing competitive and excitomg basketball.

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Another Triple Double :banana:

 

Were a long way from good, and his shot will need some serious adjustment over the next couple years, but atleast were playing competitive and excitomg basketball.

I said in another thread he is Jason Kidd. Top out at 17 ppg in a great year. But he has the rest of his game to more than make up for not being a scorer.

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I've watched most of the games. He's doing a lot of other things. He shot a decent percentage, even with his funky mechanics, at UCLA. Magic Johnson couldn't shoot a lick when he got to the NBA either. The Lakers are a much better team than they've been the last couple of years, and he's part of that. All you want is progress, and they're making some.

 

Magic had a better shooting percentage in each of his first 6 seasons than in any of his last 7 seasons.

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Magic had a better shooting percentage in each of his first 6 seasons than in any of his last 7 seasons.

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Magic had a better shooting percentage in each of his first 6 seasons than in any of his last 7 seasons.

 

When I read a post like this I truly wonder if the person who posted it is just trolling, is purposely taking a comment out of context, or just doesn't know squat about basketball. Magic's overall shooting percentage doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation, which is outside shooting. Both Magic and Lonzo are capable of making layups, and that's about all Magic took early in his career. Look at his 3 point shooting stats. He didn't take a lot of them early in his career, and his 3 point shooting percentage was terrible, like 20%. Later in his career he took a lot more and his percentage, while still not great, became acceptable. Lonzo takes a lot already and his percentage sucks. The hope is that over time his percentage will improve as did Magic's.

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Looks like he's got other parts of the game down, but there's no way in hell he becomes a decent outside shooter with his current form.

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When I read a post like this I truly wonder if the person who posted it is just trolling, is purposely taking a comment out of context, or just doesn't know squat about basketball. Magic's overall shooting percentage doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation, which is outside shooting. Both Magic and Lonzo are capable of making layups, and that's about all Magic took early in his career. Look at his 3 point shooting stats. He didn't take a lot of them early in his career, and his 3 point shooting percentage was terrible, like 20%. Later in his career he took a lot more and his percentage, while still not great, became acceptable. Lonzo takes a lot already and his percentage sucks. The hope is that over time his percentage will improve as did Magic's.

 

This.

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Looks like he's got other parts of the game down, but there's no way in hell he becomes a decent outside shooter with his current form.

 

He's definitely more Jason Kid than Russel Westbrook.

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Looks like he's got other parts of the game down, but there's no way in hell he becomes a decent outside shooter with his current form.

 

Generally I agree with you. However, in all of sport there have been successful players who's form wasn't traditional. For the NBA, see Michael Adams from the 80's who shot like shotput type of shot. That being said, I hope form is something the Lakers work on with Lonzo in the off season.

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Generally I agree with you. However, in all of sport there have been successful players who's form wasn't traditional. For the NBA, see Michael Adams from the 80's who shot like shotput type of shot. That being said, I hope form is something the Lakers work on with Lonzo in the off season.

 

Reggie Miller comes to mind.

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When I read a post like this I truly wonder if the person who posted it is just trolling, is purposely taking a comment out of context, or just doesn't know squat about basketball. Magic's overall shooting percentage doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation, which is outside shooting. Both Magic and Lonzo are capable of making layups, and that's about all Magic took early in his career. Look at his 3 point shooting stats. He didn't take a lot of them early in his career, and his 3 point shooting percentage was terrible, like 20%. Later in his career he took a lot more and his percentage, while still not great, became acceptable. Lonzo takes a lot already and his percentage sucks. The hope is that over time his percentage will improve as did Magic's.

Your original post said Magic couldnt shoot a lick when he got to the NBA. Now you claim you meant only 3 point shooting.

Yes he barely shot the 3 early on. No problem with that stat. You can relax now, was not trying to get you excited!

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Your original post said Magic couldnt shoot a lick when he got to the NBA. Now you claim you meant only 3 point shooting.

Yes he barely shot the 3 early on. No problem with that stat. You can relax now, was not trying to get you excited!

 

Again, look at the context of the statement. The discussion was about outside shooting specifically. Seriously, what do you think people mean when they say an NBA player can't shoot? if I say Deandre Jordan can't shoot do you think I'm saying he misses dunks? And I'm not excited. Just don't get people with such poor reading comprehension. Adds wasted posts to a discussion.

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