vuduchile 1,940 Posted November 9, 2017 Why hasn't anyone bothered to fix this kid's shot? https://www.yahoo.com/sports/everyone-knows-lonzo-ball-cant-shoot-right-now-even-lakers-rookie-190949125.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted November 9, 2017 Was there anyone who didn’t know this kid would be a colossal bust? What a fleece they pulled over the Lakers eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 202 Posted November 9, 2017 The kid can't shoot and his technique is horrid. You can't make it in this league anymore if you are that much a liability on offense. Jason Kidd couldn't shoot for most of his career but the zone defense was not allowed back in those days. You still had to guard him and couldn't leave him open. Very easy to defend Ball and dare him to shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,950 Posted November 9, 2017 I've watched most of the games. He's doing a lot of other things. He shot a decent percentage, even with his funky mechanics, at UCLA. Magic Johnson couldn't shoot a lick when he got to the NBA either. The Lakers are a much better team than they've been the last couple of years, and he's part of that. All you want is progress, and they're making some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted November 9, 2017 Lamelo has god-awful form too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 993 Posted November 9, 2017 He is straight garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted November 9, 2017 Why hasn't anyone bothered to fix this kid's shot? Is he even willing to listen to someone other than his brilliant legend father (who is almost certainly responsible for that abortion of a technique in the first place)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted November 10, 2017 He has great ball handling skills and is a great passer. But he seems a little passive at times and his outside shot is horrible right now. Definitely too early to call him a bust. I think his attitude will determine how good he becomes. Jordan, Bird and Magic are three examples of determined players who kept adding to their game every year. Not sure if Ball has that fire in him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,940 Posted November 10, 2017 Is he even willing to listen to someone other than his brilliant legend father (who is almost certainly responsible for that abortion of a technique in the first place)? I dunno but I thought I read somewhere where Walton wasn't concerned about his technique. If true, Walton's a moron too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 979 Posted November 10, 2017 I'm a Lakers fan but I don't really like the players, especially the high picks Ball and Ingram. meh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 860 Posted November 10, 2017 im more worried about our #1...im not big bball fan but geeezus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMjujWb7KD4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 10, 2017 Seems like he is a Tim Tebow type of player in that you have to build an offense around his eccentric style... he seems more like a piece of a good team than the type of player you build around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted November 10, 2017 Ingram looks like a starving and diseased coyote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,940 Posted November 10, 2017 im more worried about our #1...im not big bball fan but geeezus Yeah. That's bad. I know a lot of the game is above the rim, but how do these kids make it the NBA when they can't shoot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted November 10, 2017 im more worried about our #1...im not big bball fan but geeezus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMjujWb7KD4 Absolutely tragic.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted November 10, 2017 Fultz is shut down due to shoulder strain. Watch his shot from college and summer league - he will be fine. Lonzo will be fine too. He may never be a good shooter but hes such a good passer and athlete it wont matter as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,940 Posted November 10, 2017 Fultz is shut down due to shoulder strain. Watch his shot from college and summer league - he will be fine. Lonzo will be fine too. He may never be a good shooter but hes such a good passer and athlete it wont matter as much. I disagree on Ball. He's gonna be a liability until he proves worthy of guarding on the perimeter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,537 Posted November 10, 2017 I've watched most of the games. He's doing a lot of other things. He shot a decent percentage, even with his funky mechanics, at UCLA. Magic Johnson couldn't shoot a lick when he got to the NBA either. The Lakers are a much better team than they've been the last couple of years, and he's part of that. All you want is progress, and they're making some. A point I heard today was that his release is so slow and he is not athletic in terms of NBA talent....forces him to shoot quicker. College is a much more catch and square up game that let him get by with average athleicism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,805 Posted November 10, 2017 Ben Simmons> Ball Christ....Ball isnt even the best rookie on his own team Kuzma > Ball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted November 10, 2017 Dennis Smith, Jr. averaging: 14.2 ppg, 4.9 apg, 3.6 rpg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akIi9XMN2Tk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted November 11, 2017 Was there anyone who didnt know this kid would be a colossal bust? What a fleece they pulled over the Lakers eyes. As big a fleece as danny ferry at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 979 Posted November 11, 2017 At least there's guys like Ben Simmons and Jaylen Brown, those were great draft picks and very good NBA players already. And the year before those guys: Devin Booker, Kristaps Porzingis, Karl-Anthony Towns, D'Angelo Russell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted November 20, 2017 Another Triple Double Were a long way from good, and his shot will need some serious adjustment over the next couple years, but atleast were playing competitive and excitomg basketball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 20, 2017 Another Triple Double Were a long way from good, and his shot will need some serious adjustment over the next couple years, but atleast were playing competitive and excitomg basketball. I said in another thread he is Jason Kidd. Top out at 17 ppg in a great year. But he has the rest of his game to more than make up for not being a scorer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nospk 230 Posted November 20, 2017 I've watched most of the games. He's doing a lot of other things. He shot a decent percentage, even with his funky mechanics, at UCLA. Magic Johnson couldn't shoot a lick when he got to the NBA either. The Lakers are a much better team than they've been the last couple of years, and he's part of that. All you want is progress, and they're making some. Magic had a better shooting percentage in each of his first 6 seasons than in any of his last 7 seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted November 20, 2017 Magic had a better shooting percentage in each of his first 6 seasons than in any of his last 7 seasons. AIDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,950 Posted November 20, 2017 Magic had a better shooting percentage in each of his first 6 seasons than in any of his last 7 seasons. When I read a post like this I truly wonder if the person who posted it is just trolling, is purposely taking a comment out of context, or just doesn't know squat about basketball. Magic's overall shooting percentage doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation, which is outside shooting. Both Magic and Lonzo are capable of making layups, and that's about all Magic took early in his career. Look at his 3 point shooting stats. He didn't take a lot of them early in his career, and his 3 point shooting percentage was terrible, like 20%. Later in his career he took a lot more and his percentage, while still not great, became acceptable. Lonzo takes a lot already and his percentage sucks. The hope is that over time his percentage will improve as did Magic's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,940 Posted November 20, 2017 Looks like he's got other parts of the game down, but there's no way in hell he becomes a decent outside shooter with his current form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted November 20, 2017 When I read a post like this I truly wonder if the person who posted it is just trolling, is purposely taking a comment out of context, or just doesn't know squat about basketball. Magic's overall shooting percentage doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation, which is outside shooting. Both Magic and Lonzo are capable of making layups, and that's about all Magic took early in his career. Look at his 3 point shooting stats. He didn't take a lot of them early in his career, and his 3 point shooting percentage was terrible, like 20%. Later in his career he took a lot more and his percentage, while still not great, became acceptable. Lonzo takes a lot already and his percentage sucks. The hope is that over time his percentage will improve as did Magic's. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted November 20, 2017 Looks like he's got other parts of the game down, but there's no way in hell he becomes a decent outside shooter with his current form. He's definitely more Jason Kid than Russel Westbrook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,950 Posted November 20, 2017 Looks like he's got other parts of the game down, but there's no way in hell he becomes a decent outside shooter with his current form. Generally I agree with you. However, in all of sport there have been successful players who's form wasn't traditional. For the NBA, see Michael Adams from the 80's who shot like shotput type of shot. That being said, I hope form is something the Lakers work on with Lonzo in the off season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted November 20, 2017 Generally I agree with you. However, in all of sport there have been successful players who's form wasn't traditional. For the NBA, see Michael Adams from the 80's who shot like shotput type of shot. That being said, I hope form is something the Lakers work on with Lonzo in the off season. Reggie Miller comes to mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted November 20, 2017 Reggie Miller comes to mind. Jamaal (Keith) Wilkes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted November 20, 2017 Jamaal (Keith) Wilkes Still the most focked up shot I've ever seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_fMXG2wE5U Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nospk 230 Posted November 20, 2017 When I read a post like this I truly wonder if the person who posted it is just trolling, is purposely taking a comment out of context, or just doesn't know squat about basketball. Magic's overall shooting percentage doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation, which is outside shooting. Both Magic and Lonzo are capable of making layups, and that's about all Magic took early in his career. Look at his 3 point shooting stats. He didn't take a lot of them early in his career, and his 3 point shooting percentage was terrible, like 20%. Later in his career he took a lot more and his percentage, while still not great, became acceptable. Lonzo takes a lot already and his percentage sucks. The hope is that over time his percentage will improve as did Magic's.Your original post said Magic couldnt shoot a lick when he got to the NBA. Now you claim you meant only 3 point shooting.Yes he barely shot the 3 early on. No problem with that stat. You can relax now, was not trying to get you excited! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,950 Posted November 20, 2017 Your original post said Magic couldnt shoot a lick when he got to the NBA. Now you claim you meant only 3 point shooting. Yes he barely shot the 3 early on. No problem with that stat. You can relax now, was not trying to get you excited! Again, look at the context of the statement. The discussion was about outside shooting specifically. Seriously, what do you think people mean when they say an NBA player can't shoot? if I say Deandre Jordan can't shoot do you think I'm saying he misses dunks? And I'm not excited. Just don't get people with such poor reading comprehension. Adds wasted posts to a discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted November 21, 2017 Dennis Smith, Jr. averaging: 14.2 ppg, 4.9 apg, Tatum looked better than Smith tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,940 Posted November 21, 2017 Another Triple Double Were a long way from good, and his shot will need some serious adjustment over the next couple years, but atleast were playing competitive and excitomg basketball. FAKE! https://www.yahoo.com/sports/couple-lonzo-ball-triple-double-200132704.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites