seafoam1 1,879 Posted July 24, 2017 Gregg Rosenthal quoted on rotoworld.com site was stated as saying that he heard that hyde possibly could be cut this preseason. As a hyde keeper, please let this happen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted July 25, 2017 That would be just my luck....as Joe Williams.was gonna be my late-round redraft gem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smileseers 54 Posted July 25, 2017 Joseph Williams is new GM John Lynch's first RB draft choice. It is not unusual for a new GM to put the best players on the field in his opinion. I'm sure Lynch has a better view of Hyde's attitude than any of us. Hyde is only signed through the 2017 season. $1.71 million in salary cap this season and there is no way he gets the tag put on him next season. Dead money would only be $249,000. So why not cut bait? He is not great, average at best. Hightower is an adequate backup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
double tour 68 Posted July 25, 2017 Personally I think Hyde would be way more valuable in fantasy outside of SF. Texans - Ravens - Lions - Giants for example. Seriously I have never heard so much negative feedback about a prominent player from a new coaching staff ever. I hope Hyde gets on somewhere else sooner than later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 589 Posted July 25, 2017 I do think it may actually be better for Hydes career to play elsewhere. I find it hard to believe that a team wouldnt give up a late round pick to get a guy like him, so I'd be really surprised if he was actually cut. I think a trade is far more likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 985 Posted July 25, 2017 I don't really believe this at all. Hyde is the best player on their team. If they're dumb enough to cut him some other team will benefit in a huge way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted July 25, 2017 Watch him end up on the Cowboys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 589 Posted July 25, 2017 I don't really believe this at all. Hyde is the best player on their team. If they're dumb enough to cut him some other team will benefit in a huge way. Well, this sort of thing happens all the time. New coach, new offensive system. they draft a new player who they feel fits the scheme better and next thing you know, the old player is on the outs. I think this kind of thing is more common with defensive players, but it happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,513 Posted July 25, 2017 I don't really believe this at all. Hyde is the best player on their team. If they're dumb enough to cut him some other team will benefit in a huge way. i have been hearing this for a little while. i am a hyde fan but i understand their thought process. they are not liking his running style.... think it is inviting injury. he has done a great job considering their oline has been bad and he has not had much support from the passing game. he should have a better career with a more complete team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 25, 2017 Lions should pick him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 25, 2017 Joseph Williams is new GM John Lynch's first RB draft choice. It is not unusual for a new GM to put the best players on the field in his opinion. I'm sure Lynch has a better view of Hyde's attitude than any of us. Hyde is only signed through the 2017 season. $1.71 million in salary cap this season and there is no way he gets the tag put on him next season. Dead money would only be $249,000. So why not cut bait? He is not great, average at best. Hightower is an adequate backup. Wtf... I would argue what he did with zero talent around him was commendable. Now everyone is hailing Joe Williams as the savior?? !!!!! Focking stupid. You people have no clue what you are looking at Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted July 25, 2017 I'm not in love with Hyde but he's clearly done a lot with a little. 4.6 YPC 9 total tds on that team? Among active running backs, nobody had a better Elusive Rating last year than #49ers Carlos Hyde. (>25% of snaps) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 402 Posted July 25, 2017 Guy just can't stay healthy Sooner or later teams move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted July 25, 2017 One minute, you are the future...the next....CUT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted July 25, 2017 I just listened to a podcast with a SF beat reporter. He was saying that Hyde is talented but his running style doesn't fit the new blocking scheme. Hyde is used to running from a read option scheme and this new system is almost the opposite in terms of where he is handed the ball and his blocking reads. The reporter thought that Hyde will get a chance during preseason but could be traded and Hightower would be used as a bridge until Williams is ready. By draft time I think this could cause Hyde to drop into the 5th round or later. If the evaluation on Hyde is true I'm having a hard time thinking of where he could find a good landing spot. I know people are all in on McCaffery being the future in Carolina but if Stewart is in his last year Hyde could help make a nice 1-2 punch in the future. Houston would make some sense to pair with Miller. Maybe Philly or Buffalo. If he is offered up on a trade he will come cheap for an RB that is young (although injury prone) and has shown he can be an effective NFL RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maulers1973 117 Posted July 25, 2017 I think Detroit makes sense as every RB they have already is injury prone. lol Maybe Chicago or GB. Maybe a b/u in Miami. SD err, I mean the LA Chargers could use another RB. Seems to me, there isn't much trade interest. I assume the team shopped him prior to indicating to media outlets that he may get cut. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted July 25, 2017 Hyde to Ravens would be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 25, 2017 Even a better call then the Lions. Dixon is done so the Ravens indeed is a strong possibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted July 25, 2017 Is Hyde really injury prone? I feel like the whole position is injury prone...certainly some more than others but does he really fit the bill? I'm playing devils advocate a little but also asking. I'm also asking is Demarco Murray injury prone? Seemed he had that label years ago after playing in 13, 10 and 14 games his first 3 years in the league. Carlos hyde played in 14, 7 and 13 games in his first 3 years in the league. Demarco Murray played in 16, 15 and 16 games his next 3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted July 25, 2017 I think Detroit makes sense as every RB they have already is injury prone. lol Maybe Chicago or GB. Maybe a b/u in Miami. SD err, I mean the LA Chargers could use another RB. Seems to me, there isn't much trade interest. I assume the team shopped him prior to indicating to media outlets that he may get cut. Chicago? That doesn't make much sense. They had a great season from Howard in his rookie year and are expecting more of the same. Not only that they just drafted another RB this year. GB makes more sense but they just drafted two guys as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 25, 2017 Chicago? Jordan Howard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted July 25, 2017 Chicago? Jordan Howard... This year's Todd Gurley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 589 Posted July 25, 2017 This year's Todd Gurley Well, there is no doubt that if the QB does not play well enough to make teams respect the pass, Howard will find the sledding to be substantially tougher than last year. If I was a Def Co-ordinator, I'd stack the box against that offense and dare them to beat my team through the air. If the Starting QB (whoever that may be) is good enough to beat the secondary, then I can see some running lanes opening up. But I think it will take at least 3-5 games for that to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maulers1973 117 Posted July 25, 2017 Chicago? That doesn't make much sense. They had a great season from Howard in his rookie year and are expecting more of the same. Not only that they just drafted another RB this year. GB makes more sense but they just drafted two guys as well. I know they have Howard. I was thinking of where he could fit in and provide depth. I'm not expecting him to get cut and go be some team's bell cow. That's not likely unless a starter gets injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 402 Posted July 25, 2017 Is Hyde really injury prone? I feel like the whole position is injury prone...certainly some more than others but does he really fit the bill? I'm playing devils advocate a little but also asking. I'm also asking is Demarco Murray injury prone? Seemed he had that label years ago after playing in 13, 10 and 14 games his first 3 years in the league. Carlos hyde played in 14, 7 and 13 games in his first 3 years in the league. Demarco Murray played in 16, 15 and 16 games his next 3 years. I believe the latter has to happen first for Hyde before you can compare him to Murray Plus he's not neraly as good either, IMO, so he's less likely to over come Yes, Murray was definitely considered injury prone early in his career Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 25, 2017 Well, there is no doubt that if the QB does not play well enough to make teams respect the pass, Howard will find the sledding to be substantially tougher than last year. If I was a Def Co-ordinator, I'd stack the box against that offense and dare them to beat my team through the air. If the Starting QB (whoever that may be) is good enough to beat the secondary, then I can see some running lanes opening up. But I think it will take at least 3-5 games for that to happen. Yeah because the Bears offense and qb were playing at all pro levels last year........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 25, 2017 I also think Howard will lose ff points this season. I don't see him avg 5 yards per carry this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted July 25, 2017 Howard may very well have some regression this year but I don't see how that has any say on them going after Hyde. Just doesn't make any sense for the Bears. According to many people Hyde is a great back and probably the best player on the team. I would think that any other team would be happy to have him and use him as their starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 589 Posted July 25, 2017 Yeah because the Bears offense and qb were playing at all pro levels last year........... yeah I get it, but I dont think teams were keying on the RB all year long like they will be this year. Cutler wasnt spectacular, but he generally threw a 60% completion rate and 3500+ yards per year. They also had a stud WR in Alshon Jeffery that they dont have now. And he was dangerous when he was in the lineup. I still think it will be a harder year for him. but I also think hes a very good player. All I'm saying is dont expect the YPC to be the same. I'm pretty sure it will drop a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,545 Posted July 25, 2017 Hyde to Ravens would be nice. makes even more sense now that Dixon is done for the year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted July 27, 2017 makes even more sense now that Dixon is done for the year And now even more so with Flacco hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted July 27, 2017 This year's Todd Gurley No. The Bears line is really good and he's a bruiser. The Rams suck across the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted July 28, 2017 SF - RB Carlos Hyde in good shape Source: CSNBayArea.com - Matt Maiocco San Francisco 49ers RB Carlos Hyde reported to training camp at 228 pounds. He said he's in the best shape of his career and that he's the lightest he's been since high school. That's what Hyde needed to do as the writing is on the wall as he enters the final year of his contract. New general manager John Lynch has taken notice, too, saying Hyde looks tremendous and that he has dedicated himself to football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 28, 2017 Front office talk, worthless and cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 28, 2017 He sucks for the system a month ago. He is one of the best backs in the league this month Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 44 Posted July 28, 2017 Yes, new regime in SF but I find it hard to get rid of 1 of their best players right now before even preseason has started. Yeah he's missed some games & yeah probably a different run blocking scheme but give the dude a break. He IS an nfl player & I'm sure he's had to adjust things in his football career. At least give the guy a chance to show he can do the job. He deserves that much. I'll play advocate & say he does what he needs to to be the starter and has a good year. He's got motivation on his side with the last year of contract & all the hype of Williams creepin' up his back. Could be things to help him have a pretty good 2017. I'm not countin' him out yet. Camps are just starting & there's always all kinds of hoo-ha,BS, coach speak and all the other nonsense. Until I see something concrete I consider Hyde the week 1 state and that he keeps it throughout the year bar the hated words, health issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 28, 2017 I think it will be a three way RBBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocNiner 44 Posted July 28, 2017 I still like Hyde to get the carries but if it ends up a 3way rbbc & they're winning games, I'm ok with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smileseers 54 Posted July 29, 2017 Wtf... I would argue what he did with zero talent around him was commendable. Now everyone is hailing Joe Williams as the savior?? !!!!! Focking stupid. You people have no clue what you are looking at I would argue what he did not do with scoring zero rushing touchdowns after week 5. Two 100 yard games playing in many blowouts. I have not seen anyone hailing Joe Williams as a savior so I guess you are laughing at yourself for making something up. Kyle Shanahan banged on the table in the 49ers draft room to get RB Joe Williams in the fourth round. Kyle had great success in Atlanta with RBs who can bust it to the edge, take it upfield quickly, and make big plays. That is not Carlos Hyde. The offense before was designed to his strengths. Now it is designed towards his weaknesses. Lynch and Kyle have a better clue than any of us do in what they are looking at. Don't you think they watched every play of every game of 2016 before the draft? In writing your next reply, try bending over and using your good eye instead of calling me stupid please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 29, 2017 The simple reason I think it will be a three way RBBC is the new head coach. Just have to look at how he used his Rbs with the Dirty Birds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites