Annual how many NFL teams would Alabama beat thread

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No. It's not a fact. It cannot happen. It would never happen. Not ever.

 

Ohio State had 14 players drafted in 2004. That is the most by one school. So that means there would be 8 starting players during the game that would either:

 

a) Not be good enough to be a pro player

 

b ) Not be old enough to be a pro player

 

Let's look at the players that were drafted from that class.

 

Will Smith, Chris Gamble, Michael Jenkins, Ben Hartsock, Tim Anderson, B.J. Sander, Darrion Scott, Alex Stepanovich, Will Allen, Craig Krenzel, Drew Carter, Rob Reynolds, Shane Olivea, and Adrien Clarke.

 

Those were players good enough to be drafted, and how many actually were good enough to survive in the NFL more than a couple seasons?

 

 

Look at the 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers. Lawrence Phillips averaged 3.4 yards a carry in his NFL career. Tommie Frazier was considered (and in some circles STILL IS) one of the best college PLAYERS of all time. He led the Huskers to two consecutive national championships. Yeah he had health issues, but he never even got signed by an NFL team.

 

The 2001 Miami Hurricanes were solid. They had a ton of talent no doubt as showcased by how many players got drafted. But they rolled out Ken Dorsey. The same Ken Dorsey that was drafted in the 7th round and had a career NFL quarterback rating of 55.2 in his 13 games started. In fact, in all his games, he had a quarterback rating over 100 just one time in the NFL.

 

 

If you think what happened to Brian Hoyer was bad...imagine what would happen to a 20 year old quarterback who has no clue about NFL coverage/blitz schemes.

Sorry but yes it is a fact. Every team always has a chance to win. But that chance is so small it would never happen. But the fact is there is STILL a chance. You're assuming everything is set in stone when it's not. I'm not saying that an NCAA team would win. No they won't. But to say "no there is no chance" is foolish on your part

[giraldi02 470]

Sorry but yes it is a fact. Every team always has a chance to win. But that chance is so small it would never happen. But the fact is there is STILL a chance. You're assuming everything is set in stone when it's not. I'm not saying that an NCAA team would win. No they won't. But to say "no there is no chance" is foolish on your part

 

 

Yeah. I'm foolish thinking grown men can't beat up on a bunch of scrub kids that play a powder-puff schedule

[giraldi02 470]

Honestly...if you think a college team can beat a pro team...

 

 

Go attend an NFL training camp session for one day and in particular watch when the 1's face the 2's.

 

And then pay attention when the 2's face the 3's.

 

Half of a college team is not even 3's.

 

Now imagine a 60 minute game

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Honestly...if you think a college team can beat a pro team...

 

 

Go attend an NFL training camp session for one day and in particular watch when the 1's face the 2's.

 

And then pay attention when the 2's face the 3's.

 

Half of a college team is not even 3's.

 

Now imagine a 60 minute game

You're completely missing the point. I don't think even explaining it to you would work but I'll try anyway.

 

I'm not saying that a college team WOULD win. I'm saying there is a CHANCE that they could but that chance is extremely small. Like 0.00001% small. But the fact is that chance is STILL there whether you refuse to believe it or not.

 

I will repeat myself in saying that I do not believe a college team WOULD win. They just have an EXTREMELY SMALL chance. So small that it wouldn't happen

[Vikings4ever 496]

You're completely missing the point. I don't think even explaining it to you would work but I'll try anyway.

 

I'm not saying that a college team WOULD win. I'm saying there is a CHANCE that they could but that chance is extremely small. Like 0.00001% small. But the fact is that chance is STILL there whether you refuse to believe it or not.

 

I will repeat myself in saying that I do not believe a college team WOULD win. They just have an EXTREMELY SMALL chance. So small that it wouldn't happen

Well, I mean, sure, a steal beam COULD fall and crush everyone standing on the NFL team's sideline...

[giraldi02 470]

You're completely missing the point. I don't think even explaining it to you would work but I'll try anyway.

 

I will repeat myself in saying that I do not believe a college team WOULD win. They just have an EXTREMELY SMALL chance. So small that it wouldn't happen

 

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Well, I mean, sure, a steal beam COULD fall and crush everyone standing on the NFL team's sideline...

Which was the point. I don't believe in "there's no chance". There's always a chance. However it's so small it won't happen

[cbfalcon 824]

The only team I could see winning a game or three over the course of 16 is that 2001 Miami Hurricanes team. 17 first rounders. 38 players drafted. I mean, has an NFL roster ever had 17 first round talents? I doubt it.

 

Dorsey is the weak link at QB. But at least he made it to the NFL. And they were loaded with NFL talent at every position.

 

"Among the numerous stars on the 2001 Miami squad were: quarterback Ken Dorsey; running backs Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Najeh Davenport, and Frank Gore; tight end Jeremy Shockey; wide receiver Andre Johnson; offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie; defensive linemen Jerome McDougle, William Joseph, and Vince Wilfork; linebackers Jonathan Vilma and D.J. Williams; and defensive backs Ed Reed, Mike Rumph, and Phillip Buchanon. Additional contributors included future stars Kellen Winslow II, Sean Taylor, Antrel Rolle, Vernon Carey, and Rocky McIntosh.".

 

They are probably the one team that....move that roster to the NFL as an expansion team. And through free agency, if they could find a QB, they'd be the best team in the NFL by year 3-4. Right?

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Something else that has to be said: scheme

 

Most college teams run schemes that NFL teams would destroy.

NFL DE's would scare the acne off Coker's pizza face.

[giraldi02 470]

The problem with the 2001 Hurricanes is: In 2001 that team had a lot of underclassmen that wouldn't never be able to compete at that time. The Ohio State Buckeyes I referenced had 14 players in one draft. That was more than the Hurricanes. Because while the Hurricanes had that many first rounders, they all happened in various years. That is a major deal as it pertains to football. A freshman or sophomore could never last against a pro player.

 

And that's the conundrum and impossible hurdle to avoid. Underclassmen - regardless of their future potential - cannot outstrength grown men in the NFL over the course of 60 minutes. They. Cannot.

 

And when 90% of your depth depends on it...

[cbfalcon 824]

The problem with the 2001 Hurricanes is: In 2001 that team had a lot of underclassmen that wouldn't never be able to compete at that time. The Ohio State Buckeyes I referenced had 14 players in one draft. That was more than the Hurricanes. Because while the Hurricanes had that many first rounders, they all happened in various years. That is a major deal as it pertains to football. A freshman or sophomore could never last against a pro player.

 

And that's the conundrum and impossible hurdle to avoid. Underclassmen - regardless of their future potential - cannot outstrength grown men in the NFL over the course of 60 minutes. They. Cannot.

 

And when 90% of your depth depends on it...

One of the worst points I've ever seen. I suspect you are an Ohio State fan.

 

First off, not one of those 14 Buckeyes drafted was a decent NFL player. Not one of Will Smith, Chris Gamble, Michael Jenkins, Ben Hartsock, Tim Anderson, B.J. Sander, Darrion Scott, Alex Stepanovich, Will Allen, Craig Krenzel, Drew Carter, Rob Reynolds, Shane Olivea, and Adrien Clarke.

 

You say Freshman and Sophomores are useless because they don't have to last? We;; they are all backups. They don't have to last. They just have to perform for a series or play here or there. The Miami Freshman and Sophomores that would just need to perform in spot duty include: Andre Johnson, Willis McGahee, Frank Gore, Kellen Winslow, Johnathan Vilma, DJ Williams, Rocky Mcintosh, Sean Taylor, Kelly Jennings, and Vincent Wolfork.

 

Whereas the Juniors and Seniors that would do the heavy lifting include: Clinton Portis, Najeh Davenport, Bryant Mckinnie, Jeremy Shockey, Jerome Mcdougle, William Joseph, Mike Rumph, Phillip Buchanon, Ed Reed,

 

And I left off 18 drafted players there. There just isn't any contest. The Miami upper class men are so so much more talented than the Ohio State players that it more than destroys the fact that Ohio State had more guys drafted that one season.And the under class men are so ridiculous that half of them were studs by the time they were sophomores anyway. Sure, the average Ohio State senior may be able to grind down a superstar Miami freshman in a 60 minute battle, but in limited duty I'll take my chances with a young Vince Wolfork making a play against an NFL linemen over Darren Scott .

[FeelingMN 273]

Sorry but yes it is a fact. Every team always has a chance to win. But that chance is so small it would never happen. But the fact is there is STILL a chance. You're assuming everything is set in stone when it's not. I'm not saying that an NCAA team would win. No they won't. But to say "no there is no chance" is foolish on your part

If something will never happen, then there is no chance, however small, of it ever happening. That's kinda the definition of never.

 

[R8RMick 242]

What I would like to see is a return of the College All Star game.

[DankNuggs 305]

I'll take the 94 Buckeyes...

 

Eddie George

Terry Glenn

Joey Galloway

Ricky Dudley

 

Orlando Pace

Korey Stringer

Gohlstin

 

Vrabel

Finkes

Fickell

Shawn Springs

[giraldi02 470]

 

One of the worst points I've ever seen. I suspect you are an Ohio State fan.

 

First off, not one of those 14 Buckeyes drafted was a decent NFL player. Not one of Will Smith, Chris Gamble, Michael Jenkins, Ben Hartsock, Tim Anderson, B.J. Sander, Darrion Scott, Alex Stepanovich, Will Allen, Craig Krenzel, Drew Carter, Rob Reynolds, Shane Olivea, and Adrien Clarke.

 

You say Freshman and Sophomores are useless because they don't have to last? We;; they are all backups. They don't have to last. They just have to perform for a series or play here or there. The Miami Freshman and Sophomores that would just need to perform in spot duty include: Andre Johnson, Willis McGahee, Frank Gore, Kellen Winslow, Johnathan Vilma, DJ Williams, Rocky Mcintosh, Sean Taylor, Kelly Jennings, and Vincent Wolfork.

 

Whereas the Juniors and Seniors that would do the heavy lifting include: Clinton Portis, Najeh Davenport, Bryant Mckinnie, Jeremy Shockey, Jerome Mcdougle, William Joseph, Mike Rumph, Phillip Buchanon, Ed Reed,

 

And I left off 18 drafted players there. There just isn't any contest. The Miami upper class men are so so much more talented than the Ohio State players that it more than destroys the fact that Ohio State had more guys drafted that one season.And the under class men are so ridiculous that half of them were studs by the time they were sophomores anyway. Sure, the average Ohio State senior may be able to grind down a superstar Miami freshman in a 60 minute battle, but in limited duty I'll take my chances with a young Vince Wolfork making a play against an NFL linemen over Darren Scott .

I don't give two $#its about college football chief. Nice try. Any sport where rankings come out before a second of game action is played is rigged in my opinion. The only team that Hurricanes squad faced that was nationally ranked inside the top 10 was Nebraska in the championship. Oooo a team with great talent can beat Rutgers 61-0.

 

Clearly reading comprehension isn't your forte. That Ohio State team had the MOST players drafted in ONE draft. I said nothing about their talent. Oh wait. Actually I did.

 

In fact, let me quote what I said that you conveniently left out. Pay attention to that last line:

 

 

Let's look at the players that were drafted from that class.

 

Will Smith, Chris Gamble, Michael Jenkins, Ben Hartsock, Tim Anderson, B.J. Sander, Darrion Scott, Alex Stepanovich, Will Allen, Craig Krenzel, Drew Carter, Rob Reynolds, Shane Olivea, and Adrien Clarke.

 

Those were players good enough to be drafted, and how many actually were good enough to survive in the NFL more than a couple seasons?

 

 

And let's take a look at the biggest hole in that team's offense...particularly as it would pertain to facing an NFL defensive line.

 

You mentioned Bryant McKinnie. He was solid in the pros. But what about the rest of that line? None of the other starters were good enough to make it in the NFL. Joaquin Gonzalez was the closest to it with a whopping 14 NFL starts.

 

In particular, the guards and center. Sherko Haji-Rasouli (LG) and Brett Romberg ©. Both were juniors and started on that offensive line. Neither one ever were drafted into the NFL.

 

As for the right guard...Martin Bibla was drafted by the Falcons...and he started TWO games in his NFL career. So you have the interior of your offensive line that has two players not good enough to get drafted into the NFL and another that couldn't hack it.

 

Jerome McDougle? He was one of, if not THE, biggest bust in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles. How'd he do against NFL caliber talent? Oh that's right. THREE sacks in 37 career NFL games.

 

Mike Rumph? Go ask a 49ers fan how well that 1st round pick turned out for them.

 

Wilfork, Gore, McIntosh, Rolle, Taylor, Gore, Parrish, Winslow, and McGahee were all freshman in 2001. And they were all backups.

 

Great college teams feast on teams that are inferior. They always have. They always will. That's not a slight against college teams. It's a testament to just how difficult it is to make it into ANY professional league. And when each and every NFL franchise is essentially a college HOF squad, there's zero chance of them losing to a bunch of kids.

[petekrum 20]

I'll take the 94 Buckeyes...

 

Eddie George

Terry Glenn

Joey Galloway

Ricky Dudley

 

Orlando Pace

Korey Stringer

Gohlstin

 

Vrabel

Finkes

Fickell

Shawn Springs

And you'd get dump trucked by every team in the league.

[tanatastic 2,061]

None. Not vs an NFL OLine like Cleveland or defensive lines. Remember, pretty much every player was at one time "all American top at their position world class prospect" in college. Every RB was some kind of record setter or all time this and that. Alabama would get destroyed in the trenches by each and every NFL team.

[Magnificent Bastard 190]

How about tiny Ditkas? How would they fare against an NFL team today?

[redsrback 30]

No chance for football. But Basketball is a total different story. College basketball players that play defense, runs plays on offense and can shoot a better percentage then a Kobe Bryant who takes half the shots. Some of this is also contingent on officials calling a college game and not allowing the flopping and traveling.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Please, don't be ridiculous. There's nothing to find out, it would be a slaughter.

Yeah those college kids would be at huge injury risk.

[petekrum 20]

No chance for football. But Basketball is a total different story. College basketball players that play defense, runs plays on offense and can shoot a better percentage then a Kobe Bryant who takes half the shots. Some of this is also contingent on officials calling a college game and not allowing the flopping and traveling.

You have got to be kidding me. No college team could give a pro team a game. Look at last years dominant Wisconsin team, their two best players, Kaminsky and Deckar don't even exist in the NBA. Almost every guy buried deep on an NBA bench was a star in college. Doug McDermott, college superstar is buried on the Bulls bench. It would be a slaughter. Most top college teams if they are lucky have one maybe two guys who go to be more than fringe NBA players.

[redsrback 30]

You have got to be kidding me. No college team could give a pro team a game. Look at last years dominant Wisconsin team, their two best players, Kaminsky and Deckar don't even exist in the NBA. Almost every guy buried deep on an NBA bench was a star in college. Doug McDermott, college superstar is buried on the Bulls bench. It would be a slaughter. Most top college teams if they are lucky have one maybe two guys who go to be more than fringe NBA players.

Nope I am not ESPN I am not kidding, and your first mistake is comparing what a college kid would do in the NBA.

[petekrum 20]

Nope I am not ESPN I am not kidding, and your first mistake is comparing what a college kid would do in the NBA.

ESPN, what are you talking about? You're so wrong about this it's funny.

[ROCKFORD 134]

they could beat the lions, on a good day.

[petekrum 20]

they could beat the lions, on a good day.

A college team? No they couldn't. Try again.

[giraldi02 470]

The closest college team that would've at least been fun to watch would've been the Kentucky team with Boogie

[Reality 2,710]

What a stupid fkn thread.

[Kopy 491]

What a stupid fkn thread.

And yet we still get it every year.

It's turning into a tradition. Just like the solists rankings.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

What a stupid fkn thread.

You're joking. Can't you see what an important discussion this is? We need to talk this out once per year. The future of football, and the universe, depends on it.

[petekrum 20]

You're joking. Can't you see what an important discussion this is? We need to talk this out once per year. The future of football, and the universe, depends on it.

The actual importance is that identifies a couple of the halt and the lame in the herd who think the college teams could compete.

[rallo 132]

IMO... Henry's career will parallel that of Ron Dayne... I see a lot of similarities... the NFL RB position is changing, and Henry is not a typical NFL back anymore...

[MDC 5,890]

Alabama would get destroyed by any NFL team.

 

Even the worst NFL roster is a college football All Star squad plus bigger more physical players who've grown into their prime and have more experience.

 

Sure there's a no zero chance that Alabama could beat the worst NFL team. There's also a non zero chance that I'm going to win Powerball and the odds are roughly equal.

[Aaron Rudnicki 9]

Alabama would get destroyed by any NFL team.

 

Even the worst NFL roster is a college football All Star squad plus bigger more physical players who've grown into their prime and have more experience.

 

Sure there's a no zero chance that Alabama could beat the worst NFL team. There's also a non zero chance that I'm going to win Powerball and the odds are roughly equal.

 

Fact.

With that QB they have, lol, they may not even score against the Browns.