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#41 titans&bucs&bearsohmy!

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:39 PM

Its ridiculous this was ever illegal in the first place. And Fock the state regulation. Who gives them the right?

#42 Baker Boy

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:42 AM

Its ridiculous this was ever illegal in the first place. And Fock the state regulation. Who gives them the right?


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:44 AM

In American political discourse, states' rights are political powers held for the state governments rather than the federal government according to the United States Constitution, reflecting especially the enumerated powers of Congress and the Tenth Amendment.


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#44 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 06:29 AM

Like lottery, gambling is a tax for stupid people

 

Buying concerts/sports tickets, sadly, is getting there


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:06 AM

Like lottery, gambling is a tax for stupid people

 

Sports gambling is worse than casinos IMO.  In casino you can gamble, control what you do, and have a good time.  Sports gambling is for degenerates only, always looking for an edge and always chasing. The only way to sports gamble and win is find the biggest loser degenerate gambler you know, and do the opposite of what he does.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:14 AM

Sports gambling is worse than casinos IMO.  In casino you can gamble, control what you do, and have a good time.  Sports gambling is for degenerates only, always looking for an edge and always chasing. The only way to sports gamble and win is find the biggest loser degenerate gambler you know, and do the opposite of what he does.

Hey Ed...Timmy may be on to something.  Good thing you finally saw the light.  :lol:


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#47 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:20 AM

Sports gambling is worse than casinos IMO.  In casino you can gamble, control what you do, and have a good time.  Sports gambling is for degenerates only, always looking for an edge and always chasing. The only way to sports gamble and win is find the biggest loser degenerate gambler you know, and do the opposite of what he does.

 

patweisers, what are you betting this week?


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#48 vuduchile

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:23 AM

Sports gambling is worse than casinos IMO.  In casino you can gamble, control what you do, and have a good time.  Sports gambling is for degenerates only, always looking for an edge and always chasing. The only way to sports gamble and win is find the biggest loser degenerate gambler you know, and do the opposite of what he does.


The opposite meaning bet the other side or dont even bet on sports?

Either way, it should work out.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:25 AM

betting on sports is really only fun if you're poor and have something on the line.


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#50 vuduchile

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:31 AM

Years ago, I had friends who got in pretty deep with the bookies.

They literally had some sort of action every single day. They were betting on reg season NBA and MLB games. Teams they knew nothing about.

When NCAA and NFL season rolled around, they were sure to win all their money back and then some. You can probably guess how well that went for them.

Both came from wealthy families so they had their dads bail them out. These dumbasses were in their 30s at the time.

#51 vuduchile

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:34 AM

betting on sports is really only fun if you're poor and have something on the line.


I dont know about that. I still enjoy betting a couple NFL games and the Super Bowl every year.

Doing it more than a few times a year starts to feel like work.

#52 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:38 AM

I dont know about that. I still enjoy betting a couple NFL games and the Super Bowl every year.

Doing it more than a few times a year starts to feel like work.

 

I should have said, for me personally.  There is no fun in doing it, if there is nothing on the line.

 

and I am not betting 5k on a game.

 

it was more fun when $50 meant something to me, like not eating


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#53 vuduchile

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:47 AM

 
I should have said, for me personally.  There is no fun in doing it, if there is nothing on the line.
 
and I am not betting 5k on a game.
 
it was more fun when $50 meant something to me, like not eating


Yeah. I can understand that.

My in laws were in town the other night and they always want to go to the casino to play slots. Idiots.

Anyway. I just go to the black jack tables when that happens. I was playing $25 jack and was pretty bored most of the time. I finally walked out with $850.00. BFD.

The following day I bought a GoPro, accessories and some groceries. That $850 vanished like it was never there.

#54 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:02 AM

Yeah. I can understand that.

My in laws were in town the other night and they always want to go to the casino to play slots. Idiots.

Anyway. I just go to the black jack tables when that happens. I was playing $25 jack and was pretty bored most of the time. I finally walked out with $850.00. BFD.

The following day I bought a GoPro, accessories and some groceries. That $850 vanished like it was never there.

 

That's just it.

 

if you don't win bigly yooge, you end up giving it back or pissing it away anyway


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#55 crackattack

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:13 AM

 
Greatest scam going. People that continue to play that are at the apex of stupid. I get trying it (I did) I saw it for what it was.


I've won over 4 grand on FD now. Cashed out 5 different times. I've won a contest in basketball with a runner up, and won 2 in baseball and another top 3. Now, I know you might not believe me, and that's fine, but I've done fairly well. I only play the small 1$ and 2$ single entry games. Mostly. I enjoy it.

#56 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:19 AM

I've won over 4 grand on FD now. Cashed out 5 different times. I've won a contest in basketball with a runner up, and won 2 in baseball and another top 3. Now, I know you might not believe me, and that's fine, but I've done fairly well. I only play the small 1$ and 2$ single entry games. Mostly. I enjoy it.

 

I saw one lady in NH win 600 million last year.  

 

That mean the lottery isn't a scam and a poor people tax?


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#57 vuduchile

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:27 AM

 
That's just it.
 
if you don't win bigly yooge, you end up giving it back or pissing it away anyway


Yep. I understand. Maybe thats why slots and lotteries are so popular. Chasing millions vs. chasing hundreds.

#58 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:30 AM

Yep. I understand. Maybe thats why slots and lotteries are so popular. Chasing millions vs. chasing hundreds.

 

:thumbsup:

 

when I do sit down at a casino, it's to play poker (vs other players) or I'll play the hold em game, vs the house.


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#59 crackattack

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:32 AM

 
I saw one lady in NH win 600 million last year.  
 
That mean the lottery isn't a scam and a poor people tax?


Do poor people not understand the risks/odds? These are adults responsible for their own actions. If they "choose" to play, then they contribute to the taxes involved or the "rake" involved. These aren't hidden secrets.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:42 AM

Jesus Christ Ed seems like you had a dam gambling problem. Its not fun unless you wont be able to eat if you lose? Dam thats some focked up logic.

Its fun to gamble a little money on a game to make it interesting. $50 on a game like the super bowl is fun. I supposed you dont play the squares for the super bowl?

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:44 AM

States that want it already have everything in place.  States that don't will make laws forbidding it or drag feet.  

 

IMO, On-line sites are still banned, this was strictly about States rights for sports gambling. 

 

Arizona is one of a handful of states that doesn't allow DFS.  We also have a lot of casinos.  Those two are not a coincidence.  Anyway, I see the casinos offering it exclusively here.

 

I also don't think it will significantly impact the overall amount of money being bet, rather it will just move it.  In other words, those who want to gamble sports are already doing it.


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#62 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:47 AM

Jesus Christ Ed seems like you had a dam gambling problem.

 

Nope. Just when I do things, I go all out. I play for keeps, so to speak


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:47 AM

Also, it will be interesting to see how odds are handled for cities with pro sports.  Will the odds of the Cardinals winning the SB be the same in AZ as in, I dunno, Boston?  One would expect the impact of local betting to lower the odds.  :dunno:


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#64 Djgb13

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:48 AM

 
Nope. Just when I do things, I go all out


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:49 AM

 

patweisers, what are you betting this week?

 

 

betting on sports is really only fun if you're poor and have something on the line.

You calling me poor?  :lol:

 

This week I will bet on the usual stuff, Fanduel golf, some baseball, maybe a basketball or hockey single game FD contest if I plan on watching.

 

Up about $200 this year on golf.  Down about $600 on all other sports together.  Did ok on NFL last year, small plus numbers, but that includes a league with a group of friends as well that I did pretty well in.   All things considered, you might be on to something though. :cry:


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#66 edjr

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:50 AM

 

 

You calling me poor?  :lol:

 

This week I will bet on the usual stuff, Fanduel golf, some baseball, maybe a basketball or hockey single game FD contest if I plan on watching.

 

Up about $200 this year on golf.  Down about $600 on all other sports together.  Did ok on NFL last year, small plus numbers, but that includes a league with a group of friends as well that I did pretty well in.   All things considered, you might be on to something though. :cry:

 

Sports gambling is for degenerates only

 

 

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#67 titans&bucs&bearsohmy!

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:51 AM

 
Nope. Just when I do things, I go all out. I play for keeps, so to speak


That seems to be a common thread at the geek club. Its not fun unless its risky, go big or go home, kinda thinking.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:52 AM

 

 

 

;)

I don't deny that I have a touch of degen in me.  :dunno:


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:55 AM

I don't deny that I have a touch of degen in me.  :dunno:

 

That's why I :wub: ya 


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:25 AM

Like lottery, gambling is a tax for stupid people
 
Buying concerts/sports tickets, sadly, is getting there


Lotto is definatly a tax on the poor. And its funny how that has been legal for how long yet sports gambling has not.

Sports betting may be a tax on the stupid. But some of thr smarter people can make some cash.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:28 AM

Lotto is definatly a tax on the poor. And its funny how that has been legal for how long yet sports gambling has not.

Sports betting may be a tax on the stupid. But some of thr smarter people can make some cash.

 

I'm guessing because the mafia has never figured out how to make money doing lotto? the states came up with it 1st.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:29 AM

Also, it will be interesting to see how odds are handled for cities with pro sports.  Will the odds of the Cardinals winning the SB be the same in AZ as in, I dunno, Boston?  One would expect the impact of local betting to lower the odds.  :dunno:


Casinos, online books, and bookies all set their own lines.

So id assume that sill not change. But sure a local casino in western NY may see more action on thr Bills than others so of course they will adjust accordingly

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:30 AM

Also, it will be interesting to see how odds are handled for cities with pro sports.  Will the odds of the Cardinals winning the SB be the same in AZ as in, I dunno, Boston?  One would expect the impact of local betting to lower the odds.  :dunno:

 

you mean like how the bookies around here, jack the line up on the patriots, knowing people will still bet on the patriots :D

 

Patriots in Vegas will give 7, around here it's closer to 10


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

 
I'm guessing because the mafia has never figured out how to make money doing lotto? the states came up with it 1st.


Well yeah it is always based on how the government can profit. Just as is with weed.

But just funny that in courts sports gambling backers couldnt just point to the state ran lotto taking the poor's last 2 dollars on every corner in America and not win out over all these years. I mean what is thr opposing argument people had in court? I have never read much into the legal battle.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:38 AM

Well yeah it is always based on how the government can profit. Just as is with weed.

But just funny that in courts sports gambling backers couldnt just point to the state ran lotto taking the poor's last 2 dollars on every corner in America and not win out over all these years. I mean what is thr opposing argument people had in court? I have never read much into the legal battle.

 

is it any different from prostitution?  why the fock is it illegal? oh right, gubment hasn't figured out to get their share yet. 


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 11:00 AM

 
I should have said, for me personally.  There is no fun in doing it, if there is nothing on the line.
 
and I am not betting 5k on a game.
 
it was more fun when $50 meant something to me, like not eating


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:10 PM

 

you mean like how the bookies around here, jack the line up on the patriots, knowing people will still bet on the patriots :D

 

Patriots in Vegas will give 7, around here it's closer to 10

 

Right, so if the Cards play the Pats, and Vegas has it -7 Pats, but the NE casinos have it -10 and the AZ casinos have it -4, the big money bettors will go to NE or AZ and Vegas will be shut out. :dunno:


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:12 PM

Shouid be opportunities for middles.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:14 PM

Shouid be opportunities for middles.

 

What does this mean, I don't speak gambling-ese?  :dunno:


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:16 PM

 
What does this mean, I don't speak gambling-ese?  :dunno:


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