No Trannies in military...winning for sure

[Sho Nuff 719]

You have a problem with giving erection pills to wounded Vets? Sad that you lump them with trannies.

 

Im laughing that we can pay $64 million for boner drugs but $8.4 million for trans medical care is just too much.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

 

Im laughing that we can pay $64 million for boner drugs but $8.4 million for trans medical care is just too much.

I get that the internet has supplied a lame strawman to defend trannies. Viagara is treatment for a medical condition. Are you saying that being a tranny is a medical condition?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,569]

cmon guys let the trannies play with guns, they are more likely to shoot themself than anyone else

 

also trannies were born that way, they can't help it

 

signed

PedoPete

[Sho Nuff 719]

I get that the internet has supplied a lame strawman to defend trannies. Viagara is treatment for a medical condition. Are you saying that being a tranny is a medical condition?

 

An elective treatment though...no.

Not life or death.

But its a drug to get a stiffy.

$64 million to get a stiffy.

$8 for trans care...of able bodied men and women willing to serve in the military.

 

Im saying...the cost aspect of this is a copout and not a reason to be for banning transgender in the military. The numbers and everything coming out of this appear to prove me correct in that opinion.

[MTSkiBum 1,593]

I get that the internet has supplied a lame strawman to defend trannies. Viagara is treatment for a medical condition. Are you saying that being a tranny is a medical condition?

One possible cause is having women body parts, but male chromosones, ie xy instead of xx.

 

How is that not a medical issue?

[crackattack 513]

I get that the internet has supplied a lame strawman to defend trannies. Viagara is treatment for a medical condition. Are you saying that being a tranny is a medical condition?

That # is misleading at best. The bulk of that could be retirees or wounded vets. Instead, the just lump it all together. I just skimmed the article, so maybe it was broken down, but i didn't see it. Retirees, who did 20 or more years, and our wounded vets earned the right to have the government pay for it.

 

Trannies just enlisting don't deserve hundreds of thousands of medical treatment, just because they enlisted. The military keeps people out all the time with medical conditions. Medical conditions that would cost to much, or prevent them from doing their job properly, or would endanger others due to there condition.

[Sho Nuff 719]

That # is misleading at best. The bulk of that could be retirees or wounded vets. Instead, the just lump it all together. I just skimmed the article, so maybe it was broken down, but i didn't see it. Retirees, who did 20 or more years, and our wounded vets earned the right to have the government pay for it.

 

Trannies just enlisting don't deserve hundreds of thousands of medical treatment, just because they enlisted. The military keeps people out all the time with medical conditions. Medical conditions that would cost to much, or prevent them from doing their job properly, or would endanger others due to there condition.

 

And I don't think opposition to the ban is having issues with people being denied for costly medical conditions or those that would prevent them from doing their job and so on.

[crackattack 513]

 

And I don't think opposition to the ban is having issues with people being denied for costly medical conditions or those that would prevent them from doing their job and so on.

Ok. So what's the issue?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

One possible cause is having women body parts, but male chromosones, ie xy instead of xx.

 

How is that not a medical issue?

A physiological issue to be sure.

 

IF it were a medical issue and the only treatment were gender reassignment.

AND that reassignment was expensive.

I can see any employer trying to avoid paying for it.

 

You do realize that there are all sorts of physical and mental issues that can disqualify you from service. This is really nothing new.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Ok. So what's the issue?

 

This ban has nothing to do with costly medical conditions that prevent someone from doing their job.

[Djgb13 2,338]

Wow Slo has completely missed the point

[Mr. Hand 482]

Wow Slo has completely missed the point

He's good at that.

[iam90sbaby 2,122]

I think sitting in that basement all day while his wife works is really starting to get to Sho. More and more he feels like a woman so naturally he disagrees with all of this.

[wiffleball 4,635]

Safe to say, Trump's trying to deflect from a very bad week. This isn't a game changer by any means, but you know and he knows that the media will be covering this which means they won't be looking as hard at Healthcare and the fact that half of his close cabinet is in Congressional investigation meetings this week.

[crackattack 513]

 

This ban has nothing to do with costly medical conditions that prevent someone from doing their job.

Ok. Reasons/excuses of why Trump did this ban aside. Because it doesn't really matter. Is this within Trumps executive power?

[Baker Boy 1,484]

Ok. Reasons/excuses of why Trump did this ban aside. Because it doesn't really matter. Is this within Trumps executive power?

He reinstated the ban on the advise of our Military Leaders. The ban was lifted last summer. Nothing to see here but a return to normalcy.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Wow Slo has completely missed the point

Ive grasped the point that the Presodemt wanted a political victory and made up cost and consulting with generals as a reason for his tweet.

[Sho Nuff 719]

I think sitting in that basement all day while his wife works is really starting to get to Sho. More and more he feels like a woman so naturally he disagrees with all of this.

That yiubtake time to try and think of me is pretty creepy.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Ok. Reasons/excuses of why Trump did this ban aside. Because it doesn't really matter. Is this within Trumps executive power?

Has anyone stated that it's not?

[Sho Nuff 719]

He reinstated the ban on the advise of our Military Leaders. The ban was lifted last summer. Nothing to see here but a return to normalcy.

What leaders?

Other than his tweet there is nothing out there from military leaders stating he took their advice on this right now.

[crackattack 513]

Has anyone stated that it's not?

Ok. So what's the issue? "Elections have consequences".

[Sho Nuff 719]

Ok. So what's the issue? "Elections have consequences".

Ahh...the old quote...means nobody else can have an opinion on the topic? Including former SEALs, current members of our armed forces and current congressmen?

 

It's a message board.

Ive provided facts and opinions on the topic for discussion.

That's the point.

 

That he can do things doesn't mean he should do them.

 

Do you agree that if Mattis stated he wanted 6 months to look into this...that Trump should have actually consulted him rather than announce this a month later?

[crackattack 513]

Ahh...the old quote...means nobody else can have an opinion on the topic? Including former SEALs, current members of our armed forces and current congressmen?

 

It's a message board.

Ive provided facts and opinions on the topic for discussion.

That's the point.

 

That he can do things doesn't mean he should do them.

Of course people can have an opinion, but it's moot. I gave mine earlier. but, continue on.

 

Those former seals and members transitioned after they left. I'm fine with that. I said so earlier. It doesn't matter if mattis can ask for 6 months, but the president doesn't have to wait. Just the way it is.

[5-Points 2,725]

It's not a good environment for openly gay/transgender that's for sure.

Butch it up Francis.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

So what I'm seeing is (for the most part) bored Liberals have no focking clue what it means to be in the military nor the affect transgenders have on morale. Or is it just going 100% against what Trump wants?

 

Focking idiots.

[Baker Boy 1,484]

 

In the wake of their stunning defeat the Lefties are defending

Islamic Terror

illegals

Chinese steel

Chicago murderers

Hollywood snowflakes

the unaffordable care act

transgender bathrooms

Chemical Warfare

Tampon Machines in the Men's Bathrooms

tax and spend

failed Socialist Governments

rioting to prevent free speech

a Nuclear Iran

America Last

punishing success

rewarding apathy

Nuclear Korea

James Comey

The Swamp

the murder of Seth Rich

transferring obscene material to minors

MMGW Hypocrisy

Politically Correct Nonsense

Hillary Clinton

Kathy Griffin

DUI

Globalization

Paris Accord

Growing the Chinese economy at the expense of the American economy

Fake News

Partial birth abortion

Perjury

Assassination

Rape

Racism

Foreign Governments brutalization of American Citizens

Human Rights atrocities in Cuba

Obstruction of Justice

High unemployment among Black Americans

Cop Killers

MSM

Death Panels

Transgender Military

[crackattack 513]

I have a feeling this was ex-military Steve Bannon consulting Trump. Just a hunch.

[crackattack 513]

So what I'm seeing is (for the most part) bored Liberals have no focking clue what it means to be in the military nor the affect transgenders have on morale. Or is it just going 100% against what Trump wants?

 

Focking idiots.

I don't think gays or transgender(non transitioning) have a big affect on moral. As long as they can do the job equally, most wouldn't care. It's the special treatment, or separate rules they get that would cause moral issues.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Of course people can have an opinion, but it's moot. I gave mine earlier. but, continue on.

 

Those former seals and members transitioned after they left. I'm fine with that. I said so earlier. It doesn't matter if mattis can ask for 6 months, but the president doesn't have to wait. Just the way it is.

Sure...he can do it. And people here and elsewhere can criticize him for it and question his motives and his spin and lies about cost and consulting with people.

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/trump-transgender-military-ban-behind-the-scenes-240990

[Sho Nuff 719]

So what I'm seeing is (for the most part) bored Liberals have no focking clue what it means to be in the military nor the affect transgenders have on morale. Or is it just going 100% against what Trump wants?

 

Focking idiots.

Because we disagree in the fake cost excuse?

Or actually want him to consult his generals and officials rather than how he did this?

Or the others who have talked about it that aren't in the board that have served and still disagree.

You calling people idiots and misrepresenting the entire conversation here is always good for a laugh.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I don't think gays or transgender(non transitioning) have a big affect on moral. As long as they can do the job equally, most wouldn't care. It's the special treatment, or separate rules they get that would cause moral issues.

 

It did when I was in (morale).

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Because we disagree in the fake cost excuse?

Or actually want him to consult his generals and officials rather than how he did this?

Or the others who have talked about it that aren't in the board that have served and still disagree.

You calling people idiots and misrepresenting the entire conversation here is always good for a laugh.

 

You're against every move Trump makes. If he does make a right call that you happen to agree with, you give credit to someone else. If you can't, you just avoid the topic or disagree with it just because.

 

Hack.

[drobeski 3,061]

Good, common sense prevails.

[iam90sbaby 2,122]

 

You're against every move Trump makes. If he does make a right call that you happen to agree with, you give credit to someone else. If you can't, you just avoid the topic or disagree with it just because.

 

Hack.

 

Sho's anthem:

[cyclone24 1,811]

Because we disagree in the fake cost excuse?

Or actually want him to consult his generals and officials rather than how he did this?

Or the others who have talked about it that aren't in the board that have served and still disagree.

You calling people idiots and misrepresenting the entire conversation here is always good for a laugh.

Here's the difference between folks like us and you people. The generals and the experts say they don't want them then by God get them out of there. This isn't disagreeing on policy. People actually die.

 

If they say it's a distraction and hurts morale then it does. My opinion and your opinion on it makes absolutely zero difference. I'm just not going to sit here and armchair quarterback their reasoning. They don't want them then they are gone.

[wiffleball 4,635]

One possible cause is having women body parts, but male chromosones, ie xy instead of xx.

 

How is that not a medical issue?

So, let's play that on out.

 

Wouldn't you agree that Trannies, IF this IS a 'medical condition' (I don't think so - certainly not exigent), don't you believe they should reveal ALL of their medical conditions prior to enlistment?

 

I mean, if you've got bunions, ashthma, etc. - they won't let you in, so IF Trannyism is simply a 'medical condition', shouldn't it be revealed up front and be grounds for exclusion like many others?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Here's the difference between folks like us and you people. The generals and the experts say they don't want them then by God get them out of there. This isn't disagreeing on policy. People actually die.

 

If they say it's a distraction and hurts morale then it does. My opinion and your opinion on it makes absolutely zero difference. I'm just not going to sit here and armchair quarterback their reasoning. They don't want them then they are gone.

 

Outfockingstanding

 

The military isn't a focking social experiment.

[wiffleball 4,635]

I think one thing that's interesting is nobody can agree on anything.

 

Numbers of trannies in military are all over the spectrum.

Cost of trannyism goes from zero to 80K and beyond

Rand Corp is right or is wrong- or should be used for some studies, but not this, or vice-versa

Senior brass is for the ban or against the ban or somewhere in between.

Ban is disruptive. Not having the ban is disruptive.

Currently serving shouldn't be affected - just for new recruits. - Should be eliminated entirely for all.

 

- And, funny part? That's just what I've seen from the ACTUAL Trannies who've been interviewed.

[wiffleball 4,635]

Personally, I think it's incredibly hypocritical.

 

How can Trump ban Trannies from the Armed Services, but his every own WH Spokesperson is clearly a manny.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

You're against every move Trump makes. If he does make a right call that you happen to agree with, you give credit to someone else. If you can't, you just avoid the topic or disagree with it just because.

 

Hack.

I agreed with his Supreme Court pick. His move with the VA was good. His pick of Mattis.

I take issue when he makes claims that he consulted with people who he apparently didn't consult with...and use cost as an excise when that's bogus.

You seem to defemd that crap and continue to defend even his most crapass decisions like a good little sheep.

 

Try again dumbass.