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Ok, I'll try this a different way.

I'm in a keeper league where you are allowed to keep three players from the previous year.

I have two spots spoken for. Out of the following three players, which ONE (1) would you keep?

1.) Carson Palmer

2.) Randy Moss

3.) Terrell Ownes

 

Please give me some input as to why you would keep the player you select.

 

Thanks for your help,

Budman122

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Wow...that's a tough choice. If I absolutely had to make a choice right now, I'd say Owens. If you are able to wait until right before the season, and Palmer looks like he is good to go, I'd keep Palmer. I guess it really depends on your league's scoring format as well.

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Depends on your scoring system. If you give points to receptions, I'd go with Owens. If you don't then it's a toss up between Owens and Palmer. I'd probably still go with Owens, though...

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Another vote for TO here, more so if you get pts./recept., as he should be more consistent than Moss. (Then you can look to grab Palmer in your draft. :( )

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I would keep Carson Palmer, he is the youngest of those 3 and should be the BQ for the Bengals for years. While Moss doesn't have that QB with him anymore and TO well, he a cry baby.

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Looking for more help please...

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Ok, I'll try this a different way.

I'm in a keeper league where you are allowed to keep three players from the previous year.

I have two spots spoken for. Out of the following three players, which ONE (1) would you keep?

1.) Carson Palmer

2.) Randy Moss

3.) Terrell Ownes

 

Please give me some input as to why you would keep the player you select.

 

Thanks for your help,

Budman122

 

It would be nice to know the two your protecting for sure. If you could ppost that maybe we could give you some more insight. Based on what i think and see, i would keep Owens. Dallas struggled running a bit last year so they'll be forced to throw. Bledsoe is a decent QB and will get the ball to Owens. Glenn is his fav. target though. Always has been always will be. This could be a possible problem with Owens, but he'll post solid stats none the less. Palmers hurt and in a tough divison. Hard to say if they will make the playoffs. Raiders are going nowhere. There D is terrible forcing them to be in shoot-outs. Making Moss's stats better. Dallas will more then likely make the playoffs. I would sy keep Owens but I would like to know who your other two "studs" are that you know your protecting.

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It would be nice to know the two your protecting for sure. If you could ppost that maybe we could give you some more insight. Based on what i think and see, i would keep Owens. Dallas struggled running a bit last year so they'll be forced to throw. Bledsoe is a decent QB and will get the ball to Owens. Glenn is his fav. target though. Always has been always will be. This could be a possible problem with Owens, but he'll post solid stats none the less. Palmers hurt and in a tough divison. Hard to say if they will make the playoffs. Raiders are going nowhere. There D is terrible forcing them to be in shoot-outs. Making Moss's stats better. Dallas will more then likely make the playoffs. I would sy keep Owens but I would like to know who your other two "studs" are that you know your protecting.
The two that I'm keeping are LT and Shaun Alexander.

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That's tough, I would drop Moss out of the equation. Basically, I look at will it be tougher to get a WR with 12+ TD's or a QB with 25 TD's in the draft?

 

I think you are better off keeping TO and hoping to draft Palmer back in the first round.

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The two that I'm keeping are LT and Shaun Alexander.

 

nice start. keep owens, you have a shot at moss or a better receiver in rd 1 and palmer in the 2nd. lt and sa. very nice.

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As much as I hate T.O. he is a good keeper for this season, but you never know when he will implode an entire team and city around him (see Philly). T.O. is always one temper tantrum away from destroying a team. He is also much older than Palmer, so Palmer is a better long term option. It would also help to know pts. for passing TDs is it 4 or 6? Because that may make the decision much easier. Just out of curiousity how did you land SA and LT2?

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If it's 100% for winning this year I would go T.O., only becuase of Palmer's injury recovery. If you think Palmer will have the type of year he had last year, then Palmer...and definitely Palmer if passing TDs are 6 pts.

 

Thinking long-term I would stay away from T.O. since he turns 33 this year and if he burns his bridges in Dallas that might be it for him.

 

Moss is still 29 and could still have several monster years left. If Brooks gets new life in Oakland, people who passed on Moss will be kicking themselves. He's coming off a down year, so his market value is the lowest it's been.

 

I would look at who everyone else is keeping. If no top tier QBs are back in the player pool then Palmer will get snatched up quickly. If you kept Palmer or T.O. I think you have the best chance of picking Moss back up.

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Thank you for all of your input.

I guess that I could have included this in my original post:

Scoring for Offensive Categories

FG - Field Goals 3 points

Plus 3 points for a FG of 46+ Yds

 

Pa2P - Passing Two-point Conversion 2 points

PaTD - Passing TD 6 points

Plus 3 points for a PaTD of 51+ Yds

 

PaYd - Passing Yards 255 - 300 PaYds = 1 point

301 - 350 PaYds = 3 points

351 - 400 PaYds = 6 points

401+ PaYds = 9 points

 

Re2P - Receiving Two-point Conversion 2 points

ReTD - Receiving TD 6 points

Plus 3 points for a ReTD of 51+ Yds

 

ReYd - Receiving Yards 100 - 125 ReYds = 1 point

126 - 150 ReYds = 3 points

151 - 175 ReYds = 6 points

176 - 200 ReYds = 9 points

201+ ReYds = 12 points

 

Ru2P - Rushing Two-point Conversion 2 points

RuTD - Rushing TD 6 points

Plus 3 points for a RuTD of 51+ Yds

 

RuYd - Rushing Yards 100 - 125 RuYds = 1 point

126 - 150 RuYds = 3 points

151 - 175 RuYds = 6 points

176 - 200 RuYds = 9 points

201+ RuYds = 12 points

 

XP - Extra Points 1 point

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Palmer doesn't factor into this discussion so it comes down to Moss or Owens. As they are both WRs it comes down to your projections for those players. Personally I would keep Moss if you are out of it for this year (ie you are building a team to set up for 2007) and Owens if you are going for it this year.

 

I have Owens pegged for 14 games and 1450 yards/12 TDs. He's going to be a beast but I bet he's hurt come the FF playoffs.

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nice start. keep owens, you have a shot at moss or a better receiver in rd 1 and palmer in the 2nd. lt and sa. very nice.

 

I agree. And maybe even a better qb if Palmer doesn't look healed by your draft.

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Go with Palmer. Here's why:

 

Owens is a trap. At best, he'll have one good year in Dallas. But he can't help himself, he'll get pissy the moment Bledsoe doesn't throw him the ball when he wants it, and that'll be the beginning of the end. This isn't exaggeration, this is exactly what happened in Philly, from TO's own words. A player does you nothing when he's sitting at home in his own kitchen on Sundays. Let someone else take the risk on Owens, and then laugh in a year (maybe this year, even) when Owens isn't even playing. He's too much risk for me.

 

Moss...I'm keeping Moss in my keeper league, but I'm in an entirely different situation than you, of course. And I'm almost not keeping him. He hasn't had a good year in the last two years, and three years ago wasn't too great either. He's also getting older, AND he's having health problems. I'm giving him one more chance, but I can afford it, and don't have another real good option. You, you have a better option.

 

Palmer was never a good QB for his mobility. He's not a scrambler like Culpepper, he's a pocket guy. His accuracy is tremendous, and he has two very good WRs to throw to. Chad Johnson, like his attitude or not (I happen to like it), is the hardest working man in the NFL, now that Rice is leaving. CJ will do whatever it takes to help Palmer get the ball into his hands. Palmer was brilliant last year, and while his knee may keep him from being better this year, it won't drag him down too much.

 

People are getting crazy about Culpepper, a scrambler with a completely destroyed knee, and questioning Palmer, a pocket guy with a lesser injury. I don't get it.

 

Palmer is the youngest of the three, has a better, younger offense, isn't a problem like TO...Oh, and, lest we forget, Palmer's coach will be there for years. Parcels won't be in Dallas for very long. Dude has already retired once before. He'll do it again soon.

 

Palmer is the way to go. A SAFER bet than Owens. You may cringe this year every time Owens has a big game, but if you're thinking of the future, Palmer is the better bet.

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If you're keeping for just this year I would keep TO. If you're keeping for multiple years then I would keep Palmer. Here's the reasons: First of all, I'm pretty sure TO is turning 32 which is starting to get up there compared to the very young Palmer. Also TO's MO is being on his best behavior in the first year with a new team and playing well and then getting too comfortable and blowing up (in a bad way). I expect him to have a monster year this year but then a 50/50 shot of doing something stupid and messing everything up. Odds are he'll have a monster year this season and think he deserves more money because of that performance next year. Just a hunch.

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If you're keeping for just this year I would keep TO. If you're keeping for multiple years then I would keep Palmer. Here's the reasons: First of all, I'm pretty sure TO is turning 32 which is starting to get up there compared to the very young Palmer. Also TO's MO is being on his best behavior in the first year with a new team and playing well and then getting too comfortable and blowing up (in a bad way). I expect him to have a monster year this year but then a 50/50 shot of doing something stupid and messing everything up. Odds are he'll have a monster year this season and think he deserves more money because of that performance next year. Just a hunch.

 

 

I would keep Palmer if this is a keeper league for 3 years... Owens no doubt will have a big year this year.

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Your trying to tell us that your team last year was

Palmer

Alexander

LT

Owens

Moss

 

 

Are you the only person in this league :pointstosky:

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Your trying to tell us that your team last year was

Palmer

Alexander

LT

Owens

Moss

Are you the only person in this league :banana:

 

Not sure what would have been so great about that lineup last year that we shouldn't believe him here. He may not even have won his league. Take a look:

 

Palmer: great year

Alexander: great year

LT: quite disappointing at the end of the year, when it counts. ONE score in his last FIVE games, didn't top 100 yards once in that span. That's your fantasy playoffs, right there. And that one score...week 17, after most playoffs are done.

Owens: 763 and 6, didn't play past week 8.

Moss: Not counting week 17, ONE score in his last SIX games, didn't break 100 after week 4 (again, not counting a meaningless-to-fantasy week 17).

 

Yeah, there's a championship for sure! :rolleyes:

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Your trying to tell us that your team last year was

Palmer

Alexander

LT

Owens

Moss

Are you the only person in this league :thumbsup:

Yes, that is what I'm telling you. Remember this is a keeper league. We do trades throughout the year too. I kept SA, LT, and Moss from the previous year. And, I picked Palmer in the draft and traded to get Owens. I did win our league last year too.

I'm thinking at this point that I'm going to keep SA, LT and Owens and take my chances at getting Palmer back in the draft.

 

thanks again to you all for your input.

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Despite all hte knocks against T.O., he is hte only one of those three that you can count on to be head and shoulders above most of the players at his position this year.

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