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#1 KSB2424

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 04:37 PM

They DO NOT perform mammograms. Prolly moon landing but I was a bit shocked. :dunno:

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 04:42 PM

They DO NOT perform mammograms. Prolly moon landing but I was a bit shocked. :dunno:

 

And yet when they are afraid their funding from the Gubmint is going to be cut, they scream and shout that they won't be able to do mammograms or other needed services anymore.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 04:51 PM

Tells you how 'interested' they are in providing care for women. 


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 04:54 PM

 
And yet when they are afraid their funding from the Gubmint is going to be cut, they scream and shout that they won't be able to do mammograms or other needed services anymore.


You just putting words in their mouths now?

Really, this shouldn't be surprising to anybody.

talk to anybody here who has had a scan of their liver or kidneys or lungs or anything else. Your doctor doesn't walk you into special room where they have their 25 million dollar MRI machine.

First phase of any breast exam is the Tactical face. You look for lumps and other abnormalities. If that test reveals concerns, then, just like any other doctor and any other major scan, you are sent to a third-party service provider.

This sounds like one of those shocking Sean Hannity things that isn't shocking at all if you got a brain in your head.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:04 PM

25 million dollars seems high for a mammogram machine? I may have to call BS. I mean, at the State Fair they have them in the back of a tractor trailer.

All the women I know go to either a GP or OBGYN. And IF something pops up on the mammogram then they go to a specialist (cancer).

Of course I know real life breathing women.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:06 PM

All they do is kill babies. Why would they be concerned about feeding them?

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:06 PM

Planned Parenthood is mostly about abortions, which is fine by me.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:07 PM

Planned Parenthood is mostly about abortions, which is fine by me.


I think that is false too.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:07 PM

You just putting words in their mouths now?

Really, this shouldn't be surprising to anybody.

talk to anybody here who has had a scan of their liver or kidneys or lungs or anything else. Your doctor doesn't walk you into special room where they have their 25 million dollar MRI machine.

First phase of any breast exam is the Tactical face. You look for lumps and other abnormalities. If that test reveals concerns, then, just like any other doctor and any other major scan, you are sent to a third-party service provider.

This sounds like one of those shocking Sean Hannity things that isn't shocking at all if you got a brain in your head.


You hate wimmens more than anyone I've ever seen. Why do you give two shits about PP?

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:08 PM

Mammograms are unhealthy / dangerous anyway. 

 

But still, PP is evil.


             

 

 

 

 

 


#11 NorthernVike

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:08 PM

Planned Parenthood is mostly about abortions, which is fine by me.


Would you feel the same way if they got ahold of your mom?

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:10 PM

You just putting words in their mouths now?

Really, this shouldn't be surprising to anybody.

talk to anybody here who has had a scan of their liver or kidneys or lungs or anything else. Your doctor doesn't walk you into special room where they have their 25 million dollar MRI machine.

First phase of any breast exam is the Tactical face. You look for lumps and other abnormalities. If that test reveals concerns, then, just like any other doctor and any other major scan, you are sent to a third-party service provider.

This sounds like one of those shocking Sean Hannity things that isn't shocking at all if you got a brain in your head.

 

Huh?  Really?

 

https://www.factchec...and-mammograms/

 

"Obama said: “When Governor Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for not just contraceptive care. They rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings.”

 
Obama used a similar line again on Oct. 18, telling a Manchester, N.H., crowd: “Governor Romney said he’d end funding for Planned Parenthood, despite all the work it does to provide women with mammograms and breast cancer screenings.”"

 

https://www.politifa...ms-preventive-/

 

"The vast majority of Planned Parenthood’s work goes toward mammograms and preventive care, said former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley...

 

I do know that 97 percent of the work that Planned Parenthood does is about mammograms and preventative health"

 

https://www.lifesite...thoods-provides

 

"Friday's Washington Post set the matter straight, giving Rep. Carolyn Maloney of New York three Pinocchios.

 
During the hearing, Congresswoman Maloney referred to a letter to defund Planned Parenthood over allegations that the group harvests and sells aborted babies' body parts.
 
“All of the signatories are men," she said. "None of whom will get pregnant, or need a cervical screening for cancer, or a mammogram, or a pap smear, or other life-saving services that are provided by Planned Parenthood.”"

 

Do you need more proof?  My point stands as fact.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:10 PM

Mammograms are unhealthy / dangerous anyway. 
 
But still, PP is evil.


Well all x rays - mri ect prolly arent the best for you. But catching something early outweighs that tiny risk.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:17 PM

You hate wimmens more than anyone I've ever seen. Why do you give two shits about PP?

 

Because TRUMP!!!! :mad:

 

 

 

 

 

 

And they see more poosay in one day that wiff will see in his lifetime.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:22 PM

So far in 2018, just through September, PP has spent 3 million dollars on political contributions and lobbying.

Just looked. Average cost of a mammogram machine is 300k.

Thats over 10 mammogram machines PER YEAR they could have been purchasing all these years.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:23 PM

25 million dollars seems high for a mammogram machine? I may have to call BS. I mean, at the State Fair they have them in the back of a tractor trailer.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:24 PM

If Obama said that ###### recently? He's just ###### wrong. And again, it's just common sense. When was the last time you had a scan at your local Clinic?

let's hear from the director of Planned Parenthood herself testifying the Congress shall we?

If you would give me one moment to explain, Planned Parenthood is a womens health center, just like where I go for my breast exams every year. If you need a mammogram, youre referred to a radiological center, and thats how women actually receive their care, and we provide breast exams too, said Richards.

Jesus, it's not that hard.

https://www.cnsnews....mogram-machines
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:26 PM

I have no issue with PP per se. I just think they should exist on their own accord through tax exempt status and personal donations. No need for actual govt funding.

And the fact they spend Millions on a super PAC but dont offer mammogram service is eye opening.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:26 PM

Martin O'Malley testifying as to what goes on during a breast exam. ###### brilliant. LOL

Yeah, I'll take the word of the director of Planned Parenthood thank you very much.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:30 PM

You hate wimmens more than anyone I've ever seen. Why do you give two shits about PP?

As I've said from day one, I am anti
stupid. I'm not pro much of anything. The people who purposely remain ignorant in a world where they can get all the facts they need or want on their phone? That's literally just purposeful ignorance.

a lot of you kids should really read up on what percentage of federal funding goes to Planned Parenthood and what they can and cannot do with that funding.

all these moron so-called pro-lifers thinking that Planned Parenthood is taking machetes to fully formed infants 14 seconds before birth are just retarded.

Seriously, Planned Parenthood has plenty of documentation online. Stop reading focus on the family or some other stupid Jimmy Swaggart bullshit and educate yourselves as to what they do and who and what pays for it.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:33 PM

As I've said from day one, I am anti st
stupid. I'm not pro much of anything. The people who purposely remain ignorant in a world where they can get all the facts they need or want on their phone? That's literally just purposeful ignorance.

a lot of you kids should really read up on what percentage of federal funding goes to Planned Parenthood and what they can and cannot do with that funding.

all these moron so-called pro-lifers thinking that Planned Parenthood is taking machetes to fully formed infants 14 seconds before birth are just retarded.

Seriously, Planned Parenthood has plenty of documentation online. Stop reading focus on the family or some other stupid Jimmy Swaggart bullshit and educate yourselves as to what they do and who and what pays for it.

If its such a small percentage of govt funding why do they (PP) fight so hard to keep it? :dunno:

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:34 PM

If Obama said that ###### recently? He's just ###### wrong. And again, it's just common sense. When was the last time you had a scan at your local Clinic?

let's hear from the director of Planned Parenthood herself testifying the Congress shall we?

If you would give me one moment to explain, Planned Parenthood is a womens health center, just like where I go for my breast exams every year. If you need a mammogram, youre referred to a radiological center, and thats how women actually receive their care, and we provide breast exams too, said Richards.

Jesus, it's not that hard.

https://www.cnsnews....mogram-machines

 

Hey, @ssmunch, are you deaf, dumb AND blind?

 

My point stands.  Whenever there is an argument about funding, they ALL start saying PP has mammograms.  I literally gave you 3 links (I could have given you 30 more) with DIRECT QUOTES of them saying that.  And not just some average Joe's on the street - we're talking Obama and other members of congress and leaders of the left.

 

JFC, Wiff.  There was nothing non-factual about what I originally posted.



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:38 PM

When you say all in big old capital letters? You apparently don't mean the director of Planned Parenthood? LOL

You know, I can get you a hundred quotes probably of a bunch of isis best people saying the US military kills babies! Or Trump separates families! Maybe we should actually ignore the partisan morons and listen to The Experts?

Bet I can get you some doozy quotes from focus on the family about Planned Parenthood too.


"They ALL say it! 😨"

Geesus...lol
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:40 PM

 
Hey, @ssmunch, are you deaf, dumb AND blind?
 
My point stands.  Whenever there is an argument about funding, they ALL start saying PP has mammograms.  I literally gave you 3 links (I could have given you 30 more) with DIRECT QUOTES of them saying that.  And not just some average Joe's on the street - we're talking Obama and other members of congress and leaders of the left.
 
JFC, Wiff.  There was nothing non-factual about what I originally posted.


Saying Obama and members of Congress are better than average Joe's is an insult to averag Joe's.

Being an ass hole is all part of my manly essence

 

 



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#25 KSB2424

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:40 PM

And Ill ask the question nobody can ever answer me.

If Obamacare mandates ALL people must have health insurance, why cant ALL women use said insurance at a normal GP or OBGYN?

Obamacare made govt funding of PP obsolete.

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#26 Mike Honcho

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:41 PM

If its such a small percentage of govt funding why do they (PP) fight so hard to keep it? :dunno:

 

It's a small amount of what the govt funds, it's about half of PP's budget.  



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:42 PM

Saying Obama and members of Congress are better than average Joe's is an insult to averag Joe's.

 

My bad.  I promise to be better next time. 



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:43 PM

 
It's a small amount of what the govt funds, it's about half of PP's budget.  


So THATS how they can afford to give millions BACK to political parties and lobbying.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:46 PM

So THATS how they can afford to give millions BACK to political parties and lobbying.


Again, check their budget. It's online.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:49 PM

When you say all in big old capital letters? You apparently don't mean the director of Planned Parenthood? LOL

You know, I can get you a hundred quotes probably of a bunch of isis best people saying the US military kills babies! Or Trump separates families! Maybe we should actually ignore the partisan morons and listen to The Experts?

Bet I can get you some doozy quotes from focus on the family about Planned Parenthood too.


"They ALL say it! "

Geesus...lol

 

WTF is wrong with you?  Did you even read my original post?

 

Nothing I said was non-factual, yet you want to sidestep with some nonsense about the director of PP? It doesn't matter what the director says if EVERYONE else with a bigger platform is saying it.  THAT was my point and i proved it with direct quotes.

 

Stay focused, grasshopper.  It's like you're a child.   :doh:



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:54 PM

And Ill ask the question nobody can ever answer me.

If Obamacare mandates ALL people must have health insurance, why cant ALL women use said insurance at a normal GP or OBGYN?

Obamacare made govt funding of PP obsolete.

That's actually a pretty valid question. Many women live hundreds of miles away from hospitals that provide necessary services. PP clinics assist with pre and post-natal checkups and other matters important to children And women's health. A lot of poor people don't have access to transportation for basic well-baby checks and progress checks.

Far more Insidious though, is the fact that one in six hospitals in this country are controlled by the Catholics. It's their sneaky way of getting their agenda across. There women who have legitimately had their health in Peril where they are hemorrhaging blood because a child spontaneously aborted and needs to be removed from the womb. The Catholics won't allow that particular procedure to happen. And it's not just that kind of a procedure that's limited or restricted entirely.

So, while the best insurance in the world might pay for st. Michael's Catholic Hospital care. If the local Bishop is opposed to whatever nonsense mythology he particularly believes in, then that woman is screwed. And in some cases, that woman is dead.

And it's all completely legal.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:55 PM

Again, check their budget. It's online.


For what? Honcho said govt funding was half. Just looked and its 37 percent. Seems close enough for the Geek Club.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:00 PM

For what? Honcho said govt funding was half. Just looked and its 37 percent. Seems close enough for the Geek Club.


For example, what government funding they do receive? Is severely curtailed by federal law as to what they can and cannot fund with that money.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:01 PM

For example, what government funding they do receive? Is severely curtailed by federal law as to what they can and cannot fund with that money.

 

:lol:


BBC for the most part is pretty damn good.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:03 PM

Wiff is a smart guy.

I contend that if PP got off the govt teet that the following could and would happen.

1. Their personal contributions and donations would go up.
2. They wouldnt have to spend millions on a super PAC.
3. They accept insurance so they get reimbursed through Obomacare (govt subsidised already) now.


Both above would raise revenues or lower expenses and they could exist on their own accord which takes the number one thing Righties point too.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:04 PM

For example, what government funding they do receive? Is severely curtailed by federal law as to what they can and cannot fund with that money.


Wiff come on. Rob Peter, pay Paul.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:20 PM

Wiff is a smart guy.

I contend that if PP got off the govt teet that the following could and would happen.

1. Their personal contributions and donations would go up.
2. They wouldnt have to spend millions on a super PAC.
3. They accept insurance so they get reimbursed through Obomacare (govt subsidised already) now.


Both above would raise revenues or lower expenses and they could exist on their own accord which takes the number one thing Righties point too.

 

And here we go again... :rolleyes:



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:22 PM

 
Huh?  Really?
 
https://www.factchec...and-mammograms/
 
"Obama said: When Governor Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for not just contraceptive care. They rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings.
 
Obama used a similar line again on Oct. 18, telling a Manchester, N.H., crowd: Governor Romney said hed end funding for Planned Parenthood, despite all the work it does to provide women with mammograms and breast cancer screenings."
 
https://www.politifa...ms-preventive-/
 
"The vast majority of Planned Parenthoods work goes toward mammograms and preventive care, said former Maryland Gov. Martin OMalley...
 
I do know that 97 percent of the work that Planned Parenthood does is about mammograms and preventative health"
 
https://www.lifesite...thoods-provides
 
"Friday's Washington Post set the matter straight, giving Rep. Carolyn Maloney of New York three Pinocchios.
 
During the hearing, Congresswoman Maloney referred to a letter to defund Planned Parenthood over allegations that the group harvests and sells aborted babies' body parts.
 
All of the signatories are men," she said. "None of whom will get pregnant, or need a cervical screening for cancer, or a mammogram, or a pap smear, or other life-saving services that are provided by Planned Parenthood."
 
Do you need more proof?  My point stands as fact.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:23 PM

That's actually a pretty valid question. Many women live hundreds of miles away from hospitals that provide necessary services. PP clinics assist with pre and post-natal checkups and other matters important to children And women's health. A lot of poor people don't have access to transportation for basic well-baby checks and progress checks.

Far more Insidious though, is the fact that one in six hospitals in this country are controlled by the Catholics. It's their sneaky way of getting their agenda across. There women who have legitimately had their health in Peril where they are hemorrhaging blood because a child spontaneously aborted and needs to be removed from the womb. The Catholics won't allow that particular procedure to happen. And it's not just that kind of a procedure that's limited or restricted entirely.

So, while the best insurance in the world might pay for st. Michael's Catholic Hospital care. If the local Bishop is opposed to whatever nonsense mythology he particularly believes in, then that woman is screwed. And in some cases, that woman is dead.

And it's all completely legal.


Bulllllllshittttttt, pulled right out of your ass.

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:24 PM

And Ill ask the question nobody can ever answer me.

If Obamacare mandates ALL people must have health insurance, why cant ALL women use said insurance at a normal GP or OBGYN?

Obamacare made govt funding of PP obsolete.

no sh!t

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