purplengold47 27 Posted July 27, 2015 Am I the only one that's high on him? I see no competition on the backfield. Sjax injury prone and Freeman not really impressive. Combine that with Falcons offense with Julio and a healthy Roddy, I see a high ceiling with him considering his adp is around 7-8th Rd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 27, 2015 What happened to all the devonta freeman love from 1 year ago? I think hes an ok prospect who may be in a good situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted July 27, 2015 I see a RBBC with a red zone offense that uses WRs. I don't hate him but he's not making my pants move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 27, 2015 I see a RBBC with a red zone offense that uses WRs. I don't hate him but he's not making my pants move. LOL. I like the rbbc ideal here with the Falcons also , don't see any clear number one . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted July 27, 2015 Way too many bodies in the backfield. Impossible to draft anyone with any intentions other than a flier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Rudnicki 9 Posted July 27, 2015 Coleman = Overhyped Freeman = Underhyped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted July 28, 2015 Coleman = Overhyped Freeman = Underhyped IDK about that Arron. The previous coaching regime drafted Freeman, and Coleman was Quinn's pick. Coleman runs better between the tackles, though he's not a patient runner and doesn't break many tackles. Of the two I think Freeman holds down the 3rd down/COP/2&4 minute role and Coleman is the early down banger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Neil 63 Posted July 28, 2015 Kyle shanahan picked Coleman for a reason. And that man made Alfred Morris a low end rb1 when he was OC Washington. I'll take Tevin but not before rd 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted July 28, 2015 The Atlanta Falcons backfield was 10th in PPR scoring last season and 13th in standard scoring. IF...and it's a big one...there can be a guy in that backfield that gets a definitive advantage in snaps, they have major upside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 28, 2015 Yea the Falcons go to rb would be good to own , but don't see that happening it's a rbbc . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maulers1973 117 Posted July 28, 2015 Shanahan will install the zone blocking scheme and the offensive line will go from mediocre to good. Shanny was limited in Cleveland by a HC who kept telling him who to play at RB on how he felt on that particular day, and an idiot owner that kept telling him to play Manziel at QB. In Atlanta, he'll be able to run his offense. Julio will have a monster year. Roddy will be pedestrian. I could see Coleman emerging with 1050 yards, 40 recs and 11 TD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 28, 2015 The Atlanta Falcons backfield was 10th in PPR scoring last season and 13th in standard scoring. IF...and it's a big one...there can be a guy in that backfield that gets a definitive advantage in snaps, they have major upside My boy antone had something to do with that. He should be the rb to see the most touches. We all know that by now, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted July 28, 2015 My boy antone had something to do with that. He should be the rb to see the most touches. We all know that by now, right? His usage is one of the great mysteries in life 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted July 28, 2015 You can't deny the value that Freeman offers from where he's being drafted right now. I think Coleman is the man there but Freeman that late could be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Rudnicki 9 Posted July 28, 2015 IDK about that Arron. The previous coaching regime drafted Freeman, and Coleman was Quinn's pick. Coleman runs better between the tackles, though he's not a patient runner and doesn't break many tackles. Of the two I think Freeman holds down the 3rd down/COP/2&4 minute role and Coleman is the early down banger. How do you know a guy who has never ran in the NFL can do something better than that of who who has played in the NFL? Regime means jack squat, the reports of Quinn and his positive talk on Freeman say the regime does not matter. Everyone thinks Coleman is the man, but that is based off nothing but hype. Being drafted in the 3rd round assures you nothing not to mention he has a history of injuries and has the stiffest hips for any rookie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Rudnicki 9 Posted July 28, 2015 My boy antone had something to do with that. He should be the rb to see the most touches. We all know that by now, right? You must own him, because no one who watches football thinks he is the answer. Dude will be 30 and has not done much in his career for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 28, 2015 You must own him, because no one who watches football thinks he is the answer. Dude will be 30 and has not done much in his career for a reason. You must not have watched him at all last year. Dude was electric. He was an older rookie so its not like he has been in the league 10 years. From 2010-2012 he did not receive a carry. Then in 2013 he received a few touches. 5 carries for 145 yards 2 TD 29 yd/c avg. Holy dog poop. Now it was an extremely small sample size, but the point was he was using his ridiculous speed and agility to burst through holes. 2014 23 carries 144 yds 6.3 yd/c avg 2 TD 13 rec 222 yds 17.1 avg 3 TD He was having a spectacular year for how little he was being used until he broke his leg. There almost zero comps to how Smith started his career after finally getting an opportunity. I am not saying this all just because i own him in a few leagues. Ya know why i watch football? To watch freak athletes do amazing things. Antone Smith falls into that category. Unfortunately he played for a coach who was and is a f*cking moron. You are telling me that short, slow, extremely average, most likely below average Devonta Freeman should get more chances than Smith? In Freemans opportunities he did absolutely nothing with them. Your scouting is waaaaay off dude. Its not like i am calling for Smith to unseat someone like AP or Jamaal Charles. Its Devonta freaking Freeman we are talking about here! He is boring and a sucky rb. I want to see something amazing when i watch football. Not 3 yards and a cloud of dust, especially when amazing is on the roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 590 Posted July 28, 2015 How do you know a guy who has never ran in the NFL can do something better than that of who who has played in the NFL? Regime means jack squat, the reports of Quinn and his positive talk on Freeman say the regime does not matter. Everyone thinks Coleman is the man, but that is based off nothing but hype. Being drafted in the 3rd round assures you nothing not to mention he has a history of injuries and has the stiffest hips for any rookie. I cant agree. Lots of coaches who run system based offenses (especially zone blocking schemes) will ask a GM to draft a specific player because they believe that they fit the scheme. That is no guarantee, but if Coleman seems to have the tendancies that suggest he'd be a good ZBS runner, then Freeman is in trouble unless he is also a good ZBS runner. This is one of those situations, where you want to pay close attention to the training camp reports. If Kyle is anything like his old man, he will probably take the kid, make him into a star for a year (or part of a year) then will turn on a dime and make someone else a star. I dont know if you remember, but Denver's RB situation was very fluid when his old man ran the show there, and it didnt seem to matter much who ran the ball, because it was all about the system. And whoever was running the ball usually did ok. The big problem at times was figuring out who the starter was gonna be. Now if Kyle is a bit more stable than his old man, it may be easier to figure this out. Either way, both backs are somewhat risky at this point in time. Draft accordingly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted July 30, 2015 Shanahan will install the zone blocking scheme and the offensive line will go from mediocre to good. Shanny was limited in Cleveland by a HC who kept telling him who to play at RB on how he felt on that particular day, and an idiot owner that kept telling him to play Manziel at QB. In Atlanta, he'll be able to run his offense. Julio will have a monster year. Roddy will be pedestrian. I could see Coleman emerging with 1050 yards, 40 recs and 11 TD's. Roddy could have a huge year. Pierre Garçon was amazing his last year with Shanny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted July 31, 2015 My boy antone had something to do with that. He should be the rb to see the most touches. We all know that by now, right? He def took us on a wild ride those 5 weeks straight or whatever it was. Craziness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted July 31, 2015 Probably worth the gamble if he makes it to the 6th or 7th round and you have a need. At that point, if you need an RB, he's one of the best bets left on the board if 30 guys have already gone. A lot of the question marks discussed here are built into his ADP, but I also wonder what kind of upside he really has. Yeah, Kyle did great with Morris...but Morris is a much bigger back than Coleman, and Washington had better pieces to be a run-heavy team. They also had a quarterback running the read-option very effectively, which opened up a lot of lanes for Morris, and that's not going to be happening with Matt Ryan. On top of that, the Falcons had a pretty bad run-blocking line last year and haven't significantly improved it--the guys not named Antone Smith averaged a whopping 3.7 yards per carry. Shanahan should improve that, but they're also a team that's still built to air it out. So, I'd take a shot at Coleman there if I'd had an RB-light draft to that point, but I wouldn't go out of my way to reach for him, nor would I feel a burning desire to grab him as a 4th RB if I'd gone RB heavy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted July 31, 2015 Roddy could have a huge year. Pierre Garçon was amazing his last year with Shanny. White might be a gamble with the news about him needing his knee drain , and sounds like it will that way throughout the season . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 31, 2015 White might be a gamble with the news about him needing his knee drain , and sounds like it will that way throughout the season . He also said he had it done last off season too, claiming it didnt affect him. Whether you believe that or not is up to you. The falcons pass game does have an easy sched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted July 31, 2015 Roddy could have a huge year. Pierre Garçon was amazing his last year with Shanny. Roddys days as a WR1 are done. Im his biggest fan. Julio could break records tho this year and Matty ice is as always a decent mid value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted July 31, 2015 Roddys days as a WR1 are done. Im his biggest fan. Julio could break records tho this year and Matty ice is as always a decent mid value. Agree with this. I've been thinking of ways to position myself to get Julio but I haven't found one yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cousinal111 57 Posted July 31, 2015 Roddy will be a solid WR3, especially in ppr. The RB situation will be a hot monitor the next month. FYI, Steven Jackson isn't on their roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted July 31, 2015 This situation could heat up immensely as the preseason goes along. Can you imagine the hype for Coleman if Freeman got dinged up? I still think people are writing off freeman for no good reason after they loved him last year. I have no idea whats going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted August 1, 2015 How do you know a guy who has never ran in the NFL can do something better than that of who who has played in the NFL? Regime means jack squat, the reports of Quinn and his positive talk on Freeman say the regime does not matter. Everyone thinks Coleman is the man, but that is based off nothing but hype. Being drafted in the 3rd round assures you nothing not to mention he has a history of injuries and has the stiffest hips for any rookie. Plenty of rookie RBs have put up decent numbers. What exactly did Freeman do last year? Refresh my memory. Regime means quite a bit imo, but if you don't agree with that I won't persuade you. I don't know or think that Coleman is the man. I do think he runs better in traffic than Freeman does. Wait - you own Freeman don't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
