Shaub and Palmer

[HTH 67]

 

TIA

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Schaub owner here briefly entertained moving him but looking at the December schedule (FF playoffs) has me throwing that idea out the window.

 

Dec 6th Jax

Dec 13th Seattle

Dec 20th Rams

Dec 27th Dolphins

 

No, I think I'll hang onto to him.

[G-in O-town 0]

No way on Shaub I bet he has shaken of the rust from game one and he and AJ will continue to shine. I'm also holding on to Palmer for I see improvement in the running game and looking for his numbers to get better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[joefry 0]

What do you think you would even get?

 

In general, qbs do not fetch a lot since almost everybody in your league probably has a decent one. Plus, Shaub had one great game and one poor one. Why would you want to get rid of him before you see what he has? Obviously, the Jets D is awesome this year, so if he is consistantly is throwing up 20 + point games why would you want to give that type of production away to another competitor?

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

Being that Schaub is also historically an injury risk, I could see trying to sell high after last weeks game... Maybe for a QB underperforming right now like Rodgers. Or help at another position

 

Palmer, Im not sure.. I don't know how well he is going to do this week against Pitt so now might be a time to sell high but I also think the running game looks better and Palmer is getting more comfortable after missing 3 preseason games and most of last year.

[ed_jones 0]

Being that Schaub is also historically an injury risk, I could see trying to sell high after last weeks game... Maybe for a QB underperforming right now like Rodgers. Or help at another position

 

Palmer, Im not sure.. I don't know how well he is going to do this week against Pitt so now might be a time to sell high but I also think the running game looks better and Palmer is getting more comfortable after missing 3 preseason games and most of last year.

 

 

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Schaub always seems to find a way to get hurt and if he aint playing then he aint helping you win, a QB like Rodgers just might be attainable and would be a huge upgrade. Palmer I doubt you would get much at this point and I actually think he will continue to improve and finish very nicely.

[bluesrams2 0]

Last season was the first Aaron Rodgers went through without getting hurt, and his Oline is not looking good right now. Why trade one injury risk for another? I think Schaub is the real deal, and the only way the Texans win this year is if they throw the ball.

[PackYourNut 47]

Last season was the first Aaron Rodgers went through without getting hurt, and his Oline is not looking good right now. Why trade one injury risk for another? I think Schaub is the real deal, and the only way the Texans win this year is if they throw the ball.

 

How is Aaron Rodgers an injury risk? It was the only year he has played AND he played nicked up when he didnt have to. Rodgers is an upgrade for Schaub for sure. If you dont see that, you're a Schaub owner.

[bluesrams2 0]

How is Aaron Rodgers an injury risk? It was the only year he has played AND he played nicked up when he didnt have to. Rodgers is an upgrade for Schaub for sure. If you dont see that, you're a Schaub owner.

 

Knee problems in college

2006 broken foot

2008 sprained shoulder

 

not trying to say Schaub is better than Rodgers at all. I am a Schaub owner, a concerned one. But Rodgers also has many question marks. If I was going to try upgrade I would personally look for someone other than Rodgers. But that's just me.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

How is Aaron Rodgers an injury risk? It was the only year he has played AND he played nicked up when he didnt have to. Rodgers is an upgrade for Schaub for sure. If you dont see that, you're a Schaub owner.

 

Rodgers is a PROJECTED upgrade for Schaub or at least was. I am a Schaub owner that knew there was an injury risk with him but I drafted Cutler as a backup. Who's end of the year schedule would you rather have?

 

Rodgers:

Week 13: Baltimore

Week 14: @ Chicago

Week 15: @ Pittsburgh

Week 16: Seattle (not bad)

Week 17: @ Arizona (not bad)

 

Schaub:

Week 13: @ Jacksonville

Week 14: Seattle

Week 15: @ St. Louis

Week 16: @ Miami

Week 17: New England

 

I'll stick with Schaub.

[shovelheadt 61]

I own both of these guys in multiple leagues. Unless in dire need of another position, I wouldn't entertain the thought of moving either.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Rodgers is a PROJECTED upgrade for Schaub or at least was. I am a Schaub owner that knew there was an injury risk with him but I drafted Cutler as a backup. Who's end of the year schedule would you rather have?

 

Rodgers:

Week 13: Baltimore

Week 14: @ Chicago

Week 15: @ Pittsburgh

Week 16: Seattle (not bad)

Week 17: @ Arizona (not bad)

 

Schaub:

Week 13: @ Jacksonville

Week 14: Seattle

Week 15: @ St. Louis

Week 16: @ Miami

Week 17: New England

 

I'll stick with Schaub.

 

 

Not to mention that Palmer has a pretty good closing stretch as well...

 

week12 Cleveland

week13 Detroit

week14 @Minnesota

week15 @San Diego

week16 Kansas City

 

I draft Schaub and obtained Palmer for a reason. Schaubs schedule is pretty sweet the whole season. He gets an injury knock but his O line is improving and I should remind people that injuries he sustained both the last two seasons were ones which the defensive player got fined for an illegal hit. There's absolutely no way you can predicted those. Based on what I saw this past weekend, I like Schaubs chances to finish the season better than I like Rodgers, who got pummeled after he lost his offensive lineman. Schaub will also get back Kevin Walters and Jacoby Jones is developing into a good little 3rd WR. Slaton should also get more effective and Schaub will have top 5 potential by year end.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I draft Schaub and obtained Palmer for a reason. Schaubs schedule is pretty sweet the whole season. He gets an injury knock but his O line is improving and I should remind people that injuries he sustained both the last two seasons were ones which the defensive player got fined for an illegal hit. There's absolutely no way you can predicted those. Based on what I saw this past weekend, I like Schaubs chances to finish the season better than I like Rodgers, who got pummeled after he lost his offensive lineman. Schaub will also get back Kevin Walters and Jacoby Jones is developing into a good little 3rd WR. Slaton should also get more effective and Schaub will have top 5 potential by year end.

 

to everything there.

[PackYourNut 47]

Not to mention that Palmer has a pretty good closing stretch as well...

 

week12 Cleveland

week13 Detroit

week14 @Minnesota

week15 @San Diego

week16 Kansas City

 

I draft Schaub and obtained Palmer for a reason. Schaubs schedule is pretty sweet the whole season. He gets an injury knock but his O line is improving and I should remind people that injuries he sustained both the last two seasons were ones which the defensive player got fined for an illegal hit. There's absolutely no way you can predicted those. Based on what I saw this past weekend, I like Schaubs chances to finish the season better than I like Rodgers, who got pummeled after he lost his offensive lineman. Schaub will also get back Kevin Walters and Jacoby Jones is developing into a good little 3rd WR. Slaton should also get more effective and Schaub will have top 5 potential by year end.

 

I dont own Schaub or Rodgers (McNabb and Palmer I do). However, with the Houston running game non existent, I think it's safe to say teams will begin to TEE THE FOCK OFF on Schaub very shortly. Maybe he survives, maybe he doesnt... hell I dont know. But as far as injury risks go, I'd rather have a guy on a team with some balance.

 

GB hasnt looked like the GB of last year and part of that is due to injuries. I still say Rodgers is an upgrade at this point.

[jgcrawfish 232]

I dont own Schaub or Rodgers (McNabb and Palmer I do). However, with the Houston running game non existent, I think it's safe to say teams will begin to TEE THE FOCK OFF on Schaub very shortly. Maybe he survives, maybe he doesnt... hell I dont know. But as far as injury risks go, I'd rather have a guy on a team with some balance.

 

GB hasnt looked like the GB of last year and part of that is due to injuries. I still say Rodgers is an upgrade at this point.

 

And I won't necessarily disagree. But if I'm the Rodgers owner, and I spend a 3rd/4th round pick to get him, I'm not going to give him up to the guy who took Schaub in the 7th (or later). That being said, I drafted Cutler and Rivers last year, and I'm pretty sure the guys who drafted Peyton Manning and Tony Romo in early rounds last season wouldn't have traded either of them for Rivers or Cutler early in the season...but they would have been wrong...just like I'm predicting you will be.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,569]

I dont own Schaub or Rodgers (McNabb and Palmer I do). However, with the Houston running game non existent, I think it's safe to say teams will begin to TEE THE FOCK OFF on Schaub very shortly. Maybe he survives, maybe he doesnt... hell I dont know. But as far as injury risks go, I'd rather have a guy on a team with some balance.

 

GB hasnt looked like the GB of last year and part of that is due to injuries. I still say Rodgers is an upgrade at this point.

 

Houston's Running game is non-existant cause they have played arguably the 2 of the best 3 run defenses in football (Balt also)

 

Wait till they play IndyX2, Jax2, Buff, Sea, AZ, STL, they have a very nice Schedule from here out with the exception of 1 more Tenn game, but we all saw what Schaub did against them this week

 

I drafted Schaub as a potential top 5 QB (He was top 5 last year in ppg) and I was able to get him later while loading my teams with RB's.

 

I have Edwards as my backup and feel perfectly comfortable going forward with that

 

I always factor in weeks 10-16 and there was no better Schedule then his.

[DexterMorgan 5]

Thinking about Moving Carson palmer for Joe Flacco

[phenom 0]

as a Manning owner with Schaub on my bench as my backup I decided to trade Schaub for McNabb and H. Ward. I sold high because nobody wants his asss when things aren't going well. I think Schaub has potential to be a Rivers type but I'm still not convinced he can remain healthy.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

as a Manning owner with Schaub on my bench as my backup I decided to trade Schaub for McNabb and H. Ward. I sold high because nobody wants his asss when things aren't going well. I think Schaub has potential to be a Rivers type but I'm still not convinced he can remain healthy.

 

You dealt Schaub for McRibb and H. Ward (borderline WR2/3) because you're not convinced he can remain healthy when Donovan's already hurt. No offense, but I think you could have done better.

[ravenwood 1]

I just took a look at Schaub's schedule and bought high.

 

 

TIA

[jgcrawfish 232]

I just took a look at Schaub's schedule and bought high.

 

My view on QB's likely different that most FF players. I went into the season with the idea that Brees, Brady and Manning were the only three Elite players, so therefore they were my tier1. My draft strategy however isn't to take Qb early, so unless they fell to 3rd round, I'm likely not getting them. My next two were Rodgers and McNabb, but I really didn't want either of those two guys until I had at least 1 stud RB/2 Stud WR or 2 stud RB/1 stud WR, meaning 4th round. Rodgers went early 4th, McNabb went the pick before mine late 4th. My next tier was comprised of Rivers, Warner, Romo, Cutler and Schaub. However, since I'm in a 10 team league, and 5 QB's were gone and only 5 teams needed QB's (including me) I knew I had time. Like last year I looked for one guy from that tier and 1 guy as a backup who I thought had the best chance to be a top 5 QB AND would present the best value. Schaub was the guy. I had him targeted all along. From the backups, Palmer was the guy. Unfortunately Palmer went in the 8th round to the guy who already had Tom Brady??? But a draft goof later had him end up with Kerry Collins as well. He dropped Palmer and I was on that like white on rice, dropping Garrard to get him. Their schedules align nicely for the most part and Schaub's is particularly sweet. All things told I think I got two top 8 QB's for next to nothing and loaded up on RB and WR in the process.

[FeelingMN 273]

My view on QB's likely different that most FF players. I went into the season with the idea that Brees, Brady and Manning were the only three Elite players, so therefore they were my tier1. My draft strategy however isn't to take Qb early, so unless they fell to 3rd round, I'm likely not getting them. My next two were Rodgers and McNabb, but I really didn't want either of those two guys until I had at least 1 stud RB/2 Stud WR or 2 stud RB/1 stud WR, meaning 4th round. Rodgers went early 4th, McNabb went the pick before mine late 4th. My next tier was comprised of Rivers, Warner, Romo, Cutler and Schaub. However, since I'm in a 10 team league, and 5 QB's were gone and only 5 teams needed QB's (including me) I knew I had time. Like last year I looked for one guy from that tier and 1 guy as a backup who I thought had the best chance to be a top 5 QB AND would present the best value. Schaub was the guy. I had him targeted all along. From the backups, Palmer was the guy. Unfortunately Palmer went in the 8th round to the guy who already had Tom Brady??? But a draft goof later had him end up with Kerry Collins as well. He dropped Palmer and I was on that like white on rice, dropping Garrard to get him. Their schedules align nicely for the most part and Schaub's is particularly sweet. All things told I think I got two top 8 QB's for next to nothing and loaded up on RB and WR in the process.

 

This was my exact draft strategy.....target Schaub then Palmer. Unfortunately for me, owners starting stocking up on backups in the 8th. Schaub went in the 8th to the guy who drafted Rivers I don't see the need to draft a QB earlier than the 5th...really the 6th/7th......and I'm baffled as to why some owners spend 2 of their first 8 picks on QBs. I was pissed when I saw Schaub go, because at that point I was the only owner without a QB....and was giddy both Schaub and Palmer were still available.

 

I'd love to own Schaub going forward. Yeah, he has an injury history. But last year's injury was fluky. Jared Allen went at his knees. Any QB would have missed time with that hit.....so that's not on Schaub.

 

The Texans have a potent offense, a weak defense, and a favorable schedule. What's not to like?

 

I think Palmer will be solid this year as well....and has a chance to finish at or around the top 10. He's got some weapons to work with, and a surprising running game to help balance things out on offense. Defenses won't be able to key on Palmer and the passing game. But Cincy has a better defense and probably won't be involved in a lot of shootouts. I know it's cliche, but I see Palmer as a game manager but with upside.....though he has thrown a few too many picks so far.

 

Going forward, I don't see too many QBs who are flat out better than these two. Brees/Brady/Manning/Rivers are clearly better, and if you could land one of these guys, it would be a definite upgrade over Schaub. But Rodgers/McNabb/Romo/Warner all have serious question marks, and it wouldn't surprise me if Schaub outperforms these guys. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Palmer outperforms McNabb and maybe Romo. Right now, I think I'd want Schaub and Matt Ryan over the four just mentioned.

 

As far as Palmer is concerned, I think he'll finish in a tier with Cutler/Eli/Roethlisberger/Flacco.....think QB10-15.....a low end starting QB, but perhaps the best backup there is....unless you drafted 2 QBs in the first 8 rounds.......

 

I just don't think there are too many other QBs I'd rather have than Schaub and/or Palmer.

[jgcrawfish 232]

This was my exact draft strategy.....target Schaub then Palmer. Unfortunately for me, owners starting stocking up on backups in the 8th. Schaub went in the 8th to the guy who drafted Rivers I don't see the need to draft a QB earlier than the 5th...really the 6th/7th......and I'm baffled as to why some owners spend 2 of their first 8 picks on QBs. I was pissed when I saw Schaub go, because at that point I was the only owner without a QB....and was giddy both Schaub and Palmer were still available.

 

I'd love to own Schaub going forward. Yeah, he has an injury history. But last year's injury was fluky. Jared Allen went at his knees. Any QB would have missed time with that hit.....so that's not on Schaub.

 

The Texans have a potent offense, a weak defense, and a favorable schedule. What's not to like?

 

I think Palmer will be solid this year as well....and has a chance to finish at or around the top 10. He's got some weapons to work with, and a surprising running game to help balance things out on offense. Defenses won't be able to key on Palmer and the passing game. But Cincy has a better defense and probably won't be involved in a lot of shootouts. I know it's cliche, but I see Palmer as a game manager but with upside.....though he has thrown a few too many picks so far.

 

Going forward, I don't see too many QBs who are flat out better than these two. Brees/Brady/Manning/Rivers are clearly better, and if you could land one of these guys, it would be a definite upgrade over Schaub. But Rodgers/McNabb/Romo/Warner all have serious question marks, and it wouldn't surprise me if Schaub outperforms these guys. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Palmer outperforms McNabb and maybe Romo. Right now, I think I'd want Schaub and Matt Ryan over the four just mentioned.

 

As far as Palmer is concerned, I think he'll finish in a tier with Cutler/Eli/Roethlisberger/Flacco.....think QB10-15.....a low end starting QB, but perhaps the best backup there is....unless you drafted 2 QBs in the first 8 rounds.......

 

I just don't think there are too many other QBs I'd rather have than Schaub and/or Palmer.

 

I typically either try to take the value (if it falls) or I go with my gut on guys ready to break out our bounce back. Last year I targetted Cutler and Rivers and got both and ended up with 2/3 ranked QB's. This year it was Schaub and Palmer. Schaub went as planned, i got lucky that Palmer hit the WW, but i'm hoping lightening strikes again this year.