Super deep sleepers of 2014

[Upper Class Trash 67]

Who are you considering taking a flier on, either after the draft or on the waiver wire?

 

I'm keeping a close eye on Brian Quick in St. Louis. As a St. Louisian, I haven't been happy with our reluctance to put him on the field over some very mediocre WR's. He's a 3rd year WR, has a great size/speed ratio and he has great hands. His only issue is he didn't have to run routes in college (Div II) and he only began playing football later in High School. Raw isn't even the word. If he gets a chance in the preseason, he could turn into what the Rams thought he would when taking him in the early 2nd round of the draft. He may be nothing at all, in which case he's going to be released after the season. He's worth watching though.

 

Dexter McCluster - Why not take a late flier on him? His Head Coach signed him and he's a great receiver in the slot. Although the odds are highly against it, he could be a poor man's version of Danny Woodhead this season. Another guy worth watching, or wasting a 20th round selection on. He has gone undrafted in most of my redrafts.

 

Stepfan Taylor - Ellington isn't going to get all the touches in Arizona. Dwyer isn't capable of being anything more than he was in Pittsburgh. Taylor has very quick feet and makes good decisions. Keep in mind Ellington isn't very likely to play in every game. Taylor is someone I'm watching closely as I could see him get 150 touches this season. If Ellington goes down, that could increase. Everyone keeps talking up Ellington, and I like him as well, BUT, he's not a traditional RB in an Arians offense. Taylor is being overlooked.

 

Andrew Hawkins - He's going way too late right now. He's a tiny little guy, but he's deceptively fast. He could be a PPR monster if they use him right. Someone has to catch the ball in Cleveland and he's their #1 option at this point. Think of him as a faster version of Danny Amendola, only healthy. Wait, don't think of him like Amendola at all. Hawkins is actually a reliable little fellow. I like both him and Miles at their current ADP. One of them is going to have a nice season. You can get both in the throw away rounds of a draft. Hawkins has been going in the 15th/16th in real redrafts and Miles has been going undrafted, unless I take a flier on him.

 

Dynasty League Owners - Read now and save the post. Next year Larry Fitzgerald will count $23 million against the cap in Arizona. This year, Arians personally scouted, and drafed, John Brown. Brown fits the mold of an Arians player. He may not catch a pass this season, or he may catch 40. Being a fan of Arians, I can tell you this; He plays the guys he drafts, or guys drafted by the teams he is associated with. Brown could be a flat out steal. I have him in my dynasty leagues sitting on the bench.

 

Josh Huff - While Matthews gets all the love as the rookie to own in Philly, don't forget they also selected Huff. He's small, but knows the system and the HC knows him very well. He won't do anything in 2014, but they thought highly enough of him to draft him when it wasn't a "need" pick. Someone else to keep on your bench, or keep an eye on, for 2015.

 

These are pretty far out there guys and they may never pan out. I wouldn't post them if I wasn't willing to at least take a flier on them myself. That said, you risk absolutely nothing as if they don't do a damn thing, you aren't losing anything.

 

[WhiteWonder 2,171]

I don't know what counts as super deep but I'm going to put together a list of undervalued players pretty soon to post here

[Criper 24]

Personally, I don't consider most of the players on your list as "super deep" other than John Brown, who I like a lot as well. It's good list of sleepers however, and I'm on the McCluster bandwagon as well, assuming he fills the Danny Woodhead role in the Whiz offense. John Brown is at the top of my list followed by these guys I am looking at a little "deeper":

 

Cody Lattimer - Best hands in the draft, great offense, an aging Welker.

 

Isaiah Crowell - Most talented RB on Browns roster, and arguably the most talented RB in this draft class, character issues aside.

 

AJ Jenkins - Chiefs desperate for #2 WR, which they did not address in the draft. Reid took the reigns off of Alex Smith over the 2nd half of the season last year, and Chiefs will throw more in 2014 than most people may think.

 

Charles Johnson - Austin may start at the beginning of the year, but it won't take long for his hamstrings to sideline him. Insert CJ.

 

Allen Robinson - Yes Lee was drafted ahead of Robinson, but USC WR's traditionally don't pan out, and Robinson comes from a pro style offense and is physical. Jags won't throw a lot, but IMO Robinson has the most upside of the Jags WRs.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Personally, I don't consider most of the players on your list as "super deep" other than John Brown, who I like a lot as well. It's good list of sleepers however, and I'm on the McCluster bandwagon as well, assuming he fills the Danny Woodhead role in the Whiz offense. John Brown is at the top of my list followed by these guys I am looking at a little "deeper":

 

Cody Lattimer - Best hands in the draft, great offense, an aging Welker.

 

Isaiah Crowell - Most talented RB on Browns roster, and arguably the most talented RB in this draft class, character issues aside.

 

AJ Jenkins - Chiefs desperate for #2 WR, which they did not address in the draft. Reid took the reigns off of Alex Smith over the 2nd half of the season last year, and Chiefs will throw more in 2014 than most people may think.

 

Charles Johnson - Austin may start at the beginning of the year, but it won't take long for his hamstrings to sideline him. Insert CJ.

 

Allen Robinson - Yes Lee was drafted ahead of Robinson, but USC WR's traditionally don't pan out, and Robinson comes from a pro style offense and is physical. Jags won't throw a lot, but IMO Robinson has the most upside of the Jags WRs.

I agree on Jenkins. I have him in every league I am in so far.

 

The problem with Johnson is he is coming off of an ACL tear which he had practiced on while still with GB. It has been a while since the injury so he may be back to full strength.

[OrangeSoda 2]

Michael Preston

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I usually don't bother with deeep sleepers. Most of my leagues have limited roster spot, even dynasty league, it will be hard to keep any super deep sleepers. They belong to the waiver wire.

[420allstars 13]

 

 

Josh Huff - While Matthews gets all the love as the rookie to own in Philly, don't forget they also selected Huff. He's small, but knows the system and the HC knows him very well. He won't do anything in 2014, but they thought highly enough of him to draft him when it wasn't a "need" pick. Someone else to keep on your bench, or keep an eye on, for 2015.

 

 

 

I like Huff quite a bit..more as a dynasty play though, not sure how he will help a re-draft team in 2014

[Kent 228]

Lache Seastrunk, Skins RB, played with RG3 at Baylor I believe and has home run speed.

[giraldi02 470]

Jarvis Landry and/or Brandon Gibson

 

I'm not sure where Gibson is at with his recovery, but he was quietly having a pretty solid PPR season last year. I'd fully expect the Dolphins offense to pick up the pace and air the ball out a lot more next season.

 

As for Landry, he is my dark horse for offensive rookie of the year. I fully expect him to crack the starting lineup week one. Some of the better hands in this draft class and someone that hardly anyone will have on their radar in re-drafts

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

I would be absolutely shocked if landry ended up being relevant. The dolphins pass game just doesnt produce consistent wrs. They already have rishard matthews who i like, but they cant get consistently involved.

[snatchit 108]

The minute Spiller gets hurt Bryce Brown becomes a super star.. If he can learn how to hang on to the ball.

[weepaws 2,452]

Naw

[tanatastic 2,061]

Ahmad Bradshaw

[rholio 339]

Naw

 

Now there's a sleeper, never even heard of the guy!

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

 

Now there's a sleeper, never even heard of the guy!

[BigMilk 40]

The minute Spiller gets hurt Bryce Brown becomes a super star.. If he can learn to hang on to the ball.

Agree completely. Not wasting a spot on him in a 10-teamer, but I'm taking him in all 12 and 14 team leagues. This time last year we were talking about him significantly eating into Shady's production.

[ckleinhe 2]

ahmad bradshaw is a decent play. if healthy he'll have a substantial role in a good offense. charles johnson is good too, and meets the "deep sleeper" idea pretty well. jarvis landry i agree with also. production don't lie. ditto josh huff.

 

i actually like albert wilson in kansas city more than aj jenkins. if jenkins were going to do something he'd have done it by now. plus he wasn't picked by this front office. i know wilson is an UDFA but he's a very good player.

 

lorenzo taliaferro may not be "deep" anymore but with rice facing suspension and possibly declining, and pierce coming off injury and underwhelming, he has a shot to play early in a kubiak (i.e. made arian foster a star) offense.

[snatchit 108]

Agree completely. Not wasting a spot on him in a 10-teamer, but I'm taking him in all 12 and 14 team leagues. This time last year we were talking about him significantly eating into Shady's production.

they gave a 4th rounder and possibly 3rd rounder for him . Some joker on here is high on 33 yr old Fjax.

[snatchit 108]

ahmad bradshaw is a decent play. if healthy he'll have a substantial role in a good offense. charles johnson is good too, and meets the "deep sleeper" idea pretty well. jarvis landry i agree with also. production don't lie. ditto josh huff.

 

i actually like albert wilson in kansas city more than aj jenkins. if jenkins were going to do something he'd have done it by now. plus he wasn't picked by this front office. i know wilson is an UDFA but he's a very good player.

 

lorenzo taliaferro may not be "deep" anymore but with rice facing suspension and possibly declining, and pierce coming off injury and underwhelming, he has a shot to play early in a kubiak (i.e. made arian foster a star) offense.

. Good point on Bradshaw, I heard big boy is on a short leash

[giraldi02 470]

. Good point on Bradshaw, I heard big boy is on a short leash

Vick Ballard. Guaranteed

[Upper Class Trash 67]

I like Allen Robinson a LOT in Dynasty. I don't see him doing much in redraft this season as he plays the same position in the Jags scheme as Cecil Shorts. In a year or two though, he will be their #1 guy.

 

I don't like Jenkins at all. I watched him struggle in San Francisco and I don't think he's going to be any better with a noodle armed QB. This likely means he's good for 100 receptions.

 

Jarvis Landry is slow, but he likely did have the best hands in this draft class. Somehow, even with his ungodly 40 time, he manages to get open consistently and make plays. I have him on my radar for my dynasty leagues. You don't have to be fast if you can catch the ball and run a good route tree.

 

I'm tentative on the Colts backfield. I don't believe Richardson's issues were due to the offensive line or learning a new system. He runs like he has concrete shoes. Can you fix slow and dumb? Bradshaw has the quickness to be good there, but it's doubtful he stays healthy through the preseason. Ballard is decent enough to produce, but has no breakaway speed and he's not going to be any quicker after a major surgery. You may have to draft all three to get one decent RB. Blah.

[Matt Mueller 146]

^ Yeah. I have a tough time figuring out Indy's backfield. One hand if Trent hits at all he is likely a huge steal at his ADP. On the other you have mentioned the potential quagmire.

[BufordT 371]

The minute Spiller gets hurt Bryce Brown becomes a super star.. If he can learn how to hang on to the ball.

He's only been averaging 3.4 ypc since his two breakout weeks in 2012.

 

If he was any good he would've had a lot more than 75 carries last year in that run heavy offense.

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B. Brown

[remote controller 133]

Kenny Stills

[Matt Mueller 146]

He's only been averaging 3.4 ypc since his two breakout weeks in 2012.

 

If he was any good he would've had a lot more than 75 carries last year in that run heavy offense.

Good info. I like the opp but you do have to wonder why he might get it done in Buffalo when he seemingly didn't make an impact last year.

[AintNoStoppinMeNow 68]

Jordan Matthews. He was my "Keenan Allen" in this year's draft and the second he got drafted by the Eagles my first thoughts were "wow what a steal" and "I'll be taking him in all drafts this season."

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

I like matthews but he isnt an instant starter like allen most likely. After 2014 is when i like him better.

[AintNoStoppinMeNow 68]

I like matthews but he isnt an instant starter like allen most likely. After 2014 is when i like him better.

 

Allen wasn't an instant starter, he started seeing more time when Malcolm Floyd went down.

 

I just loved Matthews at Vandy, he's not flashy but he catches everything. I believe the void is there with DJax out, the offense and QB are there and Chip Kelly loves him. I really like the potential for him to have a rookie of the year type campaign.

[Matt Mueller 146]

Anyone care to comment on the current Matthews projection here? Head scratcher to me. I think he'll be more involved.

[Criper 24]

I agree that Matthews will be more prominent than people are thinking right now. I have Cooks producing the best numbers out of this rookie WR group this year, but I don't think Matthews will be too far behind along with Watkins too. My current Matthews projection is 51-619-3, probably way more receptions and yards than most FF sites are projecting. I just don't think Maclin will be as prolific as Djax in this offense, and there is no way Riley Cooper improves on last years numbers. Cooper is a great blocker but he benefitted from the attention that Djax got, so he will surely regress this year. There's room for Matthews to make a significant rookie contribution IMO.

[BigMilk 40]

I agree that Matthews will be more prominent than people are thinking right now. I have Cooks producing the best numbers out of this rookie WR group this year, but I don't think Matthews will be too far behind along with Watkins too. My current Matthews projection is 51-619-3, probably way more receptions and yards than most FF sites are projecting. I just don't think Maclin will be as prolific as Djax in this offense, and there is no way Riley Cooper improves on last years numbers. Cooper is a great blocker but he benefitted from the attention that Djax got, so he will surely regress this year. There's room for Matthews to make a significant rookie contribution IMO.

I like Matthews and I think your argument for him makes sense. I would not be shocked to see those type of numbers from him at all, and totally agree re: Maclin vs. DJax in that offense.

 

This rookie class of receivers is really difficult to project in my opinion. Good cases can be made for 6-7 guys to lead their class.

[tanatastic 2,061]

^ Yeah. I have a tough time figuring out Indy's backfield. One hand if Trent hits at all he is likely a huge steal at his ADP. On the other you have mentioned the potential quagmire.

No chance, Trent will have a huge run in the preseason and his adp will skyrocket from espn hype. By preseason week 3 he will be back to being a late 1st rounder with promises of being "back". Book it.

[DrG 94]

A Cleveland running back, I'm just not sure who it will be catching garbage time dump offs.

 

A New England Patriots player, who that is whether Thompkins, James White, etc. is a good guess.

 

I don't know where they are on their rehabs, but Danario Alexander and Leonard Hankerson are two players to check on.

 

Arian Foster's new backup.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

A Cleveland running back, I'm just not sure who it will be catching garbage time dump offs.

 

A New England Patriots player, who that is whether Thompkins, James White, etc. is a good guess.

 

I don't know where they are on their rehabs, but Danario Alexander and Leonard Hankerson are two players to check on.

 

Arian Foster's new backup.

Fosters new backup is Andre Brown, a rb I am targeting in a few leagues. Brown has the talent to be a fantasy stud, just not the durability. Still worth a gamble.

 

The Cleveland RB is Ben Tate. It has to be. If it isn't Tate do we really want the next best option? The starter is worth rostering no matter what I guess, but the Browns RBs didn't do dlck last year. McGahee was the best RB with 138 attempts, 377 yards, 2.7 average, 2 TD. The receiving numbers for RBs were a little better but still not really even worth a spot on a roster with the severely limited ceiling. Tate could just change all that this year.

[dehaven123 31]

A Cleveland running back, I'm just not sure who it will be catching garbage time dump offs.

 

A New England Patriots player, who that is whether Thompkins, James White, etc. is a good guess.

 

I don't know where they are on their rehabs, but Danario Alexander and Leonard Hankerson are two players to check on.

 

Arian Foster's new backup.

 

i dont think hankerson has a chance, he's fighting for a roster spot.

after adding djax, andre roberts, and a healthy jordan reed to the mix of garcon and alf morris and either helu/thompson/seastruck, barring injury, cant see hankerson doing much at all, if anything.

[dehaven123 31]

Fosters new backup is Andre Brown, a rb I am targeting in a few leagues. Brown has the talent to be a fantasy stud, just not the durability. Still worth a gamble.

 

The Cleveland RB is Ben Tate. It has to be. If it isn't Tate do we really want the next best option? The starter is worth rostering no matter what I guess, but the Browns RBs didn't do dlck last year. McGahee was the best RB with 138 attempts, 377 yards, 2.7 average, 2 TD. The receiving numbers for RBs were a little better but still not really even worth a spot on a roster with the severely limited ceiling. Tate could just change all that this year.

 

id be more focused on Blue if Foster goes down.

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id be more focused on Blue if Foster goes down.

Blue isnt that great of a talent imo, but he could get some love in ppr leagues if foster goes down. Of course we would have to take the coaching staffs word that brown isnt going to be involved in the pass game.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

 

The Cleveland RB is Ben Tate. It has to be. If it isn't Tate do we really want the next best option? The starter is worth rostering no matter what I guess, but the Browns RBs didn't do dlck last year. McGahee was the best RB with 138 attempts, 377 yards, 2.7 average, 2 TD. The receiving numbers for RBs were a little better but still not really even worth a spot on a roster with the severely limited ceiling. Tate could just change all that this year.

T. West

[jaxjag 43]

Lache Seastrunk, Skins RB, played with RG3 at Baylor I believe and has home run speed.

 

Tough one as Alfred Morris is one of the true feature backs in the league. This one would require an injury.

 

Seastrunk really plummeted in the draft after being a "darling" of the internet community.. Not sure where the truth lies but I have more faith in the NFL talent evaluaters.