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I need to make it by the end of the week. Been accepted to both PA school and nursing school. Being a PA sit only takes 2 more years and Ill be working immediately after that. However, I wont be able to really own my own practice and have to work under a doctor. If I go to nursing school itll be 2 years then 18-24 depending on the grad school I go to for nurse practitioner. So looking close to 4 years for that. But I dont work under a doctor and can own my own practice. BIL wanted me to always be an NP and has been pushing me to do that so we could open a practice in his town. Hes got the business model already set up of what he wants me to do. And this is the guy who turn his chiropractic practice into a million dollar company. So Im leaning towards NP. Just dont feel like doing close to an extra 2 years of school.

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Do what you want, not what someone else wants. That's my only advice.

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Take the route that will make you the most money long term. Two years is not really a long time. Think long term.

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Since you seem able to live comfortably on whatever you do now (I thought you were a nurse) with family money, and your successful BIL is going to run your business, based on your info NP seems like the obvious answer.

 

Keep in mind that if you own your own business, you have to actually work. A lot.

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Forgot to mention my GI Bill would pay for all of my PA school but not the entire 4 years of the nursing school cause I used up some when I got out the military. But schooling would be paid for and I would get paid every month for going to school so I wouldnt have to worry about money while Im doing that either. Im really leaning NP cause I like working on my own. Im the type that once I know something the higher ups just let me do my own thing and dont ever have to worry. So thats how I like to work

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seems like the NP will open more doors for you down the line. what is your earning potential while going through that 18-24 months? paid internships?

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Shonuff owns his own business. Maybe he could give you some pointers.

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seems like the NP will open more doors for you down the line. what is your earning potential while going through that 18-24 months? paid internships?

Once I get through with my BSN which would only take 2 years then I can work as a nurse and do NP school online. So I could work and go to school full time (did it before while in th military). NP school would be 18-24 months depending on the school. So my earning would be roughly at least $60K looking at some of the nursing openings down here with the potential for more. Plus I got other income coming in as well that adds to that so I wouldnt dont be hurting at all.

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I think that you have to learn how to milk a cat if you become a RN.

Id rather learn how to milk Gregs nipples :ninja:

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Once I get through with my BSN which would only take 2 years then I can work as a nurse and do NP school online. So I could work and go to school full time (did it before while in th military). NP school would be 18-24 months depending on the school. So my earning would be roughly at least $60K looking at some of the nursing openings down here with the potential for more. Plus I got other income coming in as well that adds to that so I wouldnt dont be hurting at all.

Is BSN the same as LPN, licensed practical nurse?

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Shonuff owns his own business. Maybe he could give you some pointers.

Sitting in front of 3 screens simulcasting different political news feeds while frantically chain smoking cigarettes and leaving the butts to collect all around is a business?

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Is BSN the same as LPN, licensed practical nurse?

No. Thats lower than an RN. Thats a year program. RN is at least a 2 year program (like an associates). BSN is a bachelors of science in nursing. Nowadays, companies want you to have your BSN to work for them as a nurse. And you can only become an NP or CRNA with a BSN. So theres no point in me going two years for just an RN when I can do the same amount of time and get the BSN (keep in mind I already have a BS in biology)

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Once I get through with my BSN which would only take 2 years then I can work as a nurse and do NP school online. So I could work and go to school full time (did it before while in th military). NP school would be 18-24 months depending on the school. So my earning would be roughly at least $60K looking at some of the nursing openings down here with the potential for more. Plus I got other income coming in as well that adds to that so I wouldnt dont be hurting at all.

You said you currently make $35/hour, that is about $70K/year, maybe more. Why do it? :dunno:

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Once I get through with my BSN which would only take 2 years then I can work as a nurse and do NP school online. So I could work and go to school full time (did it before while in th military). NP school would be 18-24 months depending on the school. So my earning would be roughly at least $60K looking at some of the nursing openings down here with the potential for more. Plus I got other income coming in as well that adds to that so I wouldnt dont be hurting at all.

 

if finances and education is covered, and you have decent earning potential after the first two years, what are the drawbacks of doing the NP? just the additional 2 years?

 

PA seems like a shortcut with fewer long term advantages.

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You said you currently make $35/hour, that is about $70K/year, maybe more. Why do it? :dunno:

Cause I cant go any higher where im at. Plus I put up with a lot of BS. Dont like where I work. Im always striving to better myself and have always wanted to own my own practice. I also want to move and doubt Id get a job doing what I do now for the same amount of money

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You said you currently make $35/hour, that is about $70K/year, maybe more. Why do it? :dunno:

Jesus Id consider myself rich if I made anywhere close to that much. I hate not having money...

 

Actually thats not true. Id just be able to afford to rent a better apt and maybe a slightly better car and that would be much of the difference right there. The rat race never ends.

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if finances and education is covered, and you have decent earning potential after the first two years, what are the drawbacks of doing the NP? just the additional 2 years?

 

PA seems like a shortcut with fewer long term advantages.

Yea thats a good point. The only drawback is the additzonal 2 years. Plus possibly more cause I would want to advance myself more and be a DNP (doctor of nursing practitioner).

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Jesus Id consider myself rich if I made anywhere close to that much. I hate not having money...

Really man I have expensive tastes. I also want to travel all over. At least overseas once a year. That requires a lot of money. The house I want to build is going to be expensive. The toys I want (boat, jet ski, 4 wheeler, etc) are expensive. The places I want (beach house/condo, river house, lake house, mountain cabin) are all expensive. Also, a couple horses too. Therefore, I have to bust my ass if I want these things. My wife will also be contributing but the bulk would be me

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i have always been one to defer short term gains for bigger, longer term benefits. it has generally has paid off for me.

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i have always been one to defer short term gains for bigger, longer term benefits. it has generally has paid off for me.

I do too. Its just Im 30 now and want it to be over with quickly so I can enjoy myself

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I do too. Its just Im 30 now and want it to be over with quickly so I can enjoy myself

 

that is up to you to determine, but what will lead to better "play?" will the 2 year plan limit you and your professional growth?

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that is up to you to determine, but what will lead to better "play?" will the 2 year plan limit you and your professional growth?

Yea thats true. Probably will end up going the nursing route. The owning my own practice part is what is enticing. I would have to pay a physician every month to be on the pay roll but they only need to be available by phone. My BIL owns a minute med clinic right next to his chiropractic office and he has an NP working for him. He pays a doctor $1K a month to be available by phone but the doctor hasnt ever set foot in that office. Hes also opening up a pharmacy across the street from those two clinics. Hoping he will be around by the time Im an NP. He was given 6 months to live a little over 2 months ago and doctors said his tumors are growing so he needs to do something now. Looking like he wont last the year. But hes been wanting to help me for years. Even said (back when I was 18) if I went to chiropractic school and worked for him he would pay for my school and pay me $100K a year. I just didnt want to do chiropractic.

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Bridge

This is the correct choice.

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Shonuff owns his own business. Maybe he could give you some pointers.

He can help pick out a couch for the basement.

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I will answer this seriously.

 

You are 30 years old and you do not have your degree yet, what has held you back in the past? Study habits, lack of effort, difficulty with school?

What will be different this time? Do you have the issue fixed that prevented you from getting the degree before?

 

What is the percent chance that you will finish the 2 year program verse the 4 year program? And be honest with yourself.

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Interesting thread idea coming on the heels of that thread where you were called out for not being able to get into PA school and only making $15/hr.

 

You quickly addressed that $15 issue by letting us know youve skyrocketed to the top of your profession and are now pulling in $35/hr.

 

Now, youre addressing the PA school issue by subtlety letting us know you were not only accepted into PA school, but nurse school as well.

 

Youre on a roll there bud.

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You should do both, work both jobs after you're done with school, and then decide which one you prefer. You're welcome.

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I will answer this seriously.

 

You are 30 years old and you do not have your degree yet, what has held you back in the past? Study habits, lack of effort, difficulty with school?

 

What will be different this time? Do you have the issue fixed that prevented you from getting the degree before?

 

What is the percent chance that you will finish the 2 year program verse the 4 year program? And be honest with yourself.

No I have my degree. I had a BS in biology cause I was going for PA. I went to school full time while I was active duty military. I applied to nursing school as a backup in case I didnt get in and my BIL wanted me to be an NP cause he said its a lot better career choice. Well I got into both PA and nursing school. Only thing is the limitations of a PA in SC are kind of strict and thats where I live and want to continue to live. NPs have a lot more freedom when it comes to practicing on their own. I didnt know this while getting my degree until I was finished with it and started discussing PA school with my BIL. Chances of me finishing both are 99% certain just cause Im both smart and actually put in the work. Only downside to NP is the extra 2 years but I would be working during that time as well. Basically, short term: PA is quicker and could get a jump start on making decent money. Just cant progress any higher because all they have for a PA is a Masters of Physician Assistant and I would have to work with a doctor. Long term: NP has 2 more years but has the ability to practice on their own. Also, has higher levels of education such as Doctor of Nurse Practitioner so I can advance myself even further.

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You won't ever make the real money working for someone else.

 

Though I have a friend who is a PA and makes $400k

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You won't ever make the real money working for someone else.

Though I have a friend who is a PA and makes $400k

Highest 10% of PA make 125k, what makes your friend so special to be overpaid by more than triple?

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Highest 10% of PA make 125k, what makes your friend so special to be overpaid by more than triple?

I have no clue... he makes more than specialists he sends me too. He's a great guy... but really braggy on his salary.. haha..

 

Works for a major hospital uhh do they call them "chains"?

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Highest 10% of PA make 125k, what makes your friend so special to be overpaid by more than triple?

 

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I have no clue... he makes more than specialists he sends me too. He's a great guy... but really braggy on his salary.. haha..

 

Works for a major hospital uhh do they call them "chains"?

You CAN make that much. What does he do? I know PAs who are in surgery make close to that

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I have no clue... he makes more than specialists he sends me too. He's a great guy... but really braggy on his salary.. haha..

 

Works for a major hospital uhh do they call them "chains"?

 

The simple explanations is that people who "brag" about how much they make are probably lying, at least when it falls that far outside the spectrum.

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