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I never believe conspiracy theories. Like ever.

 

And I mostly do not this time, BUT.....this one is sort of odd. All the way around. It wouldnt surprise me if something more eventually came out. As in he had help, or was a scapegoat, etc.

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Too funny that I guessed the nutjobs would bring this stuff up hours ago and they did shortly thereafter.

 

Now the struggle is was this a fake job set up the steal our guns by the liberals or was the shooter a liberal whack job? Boy It's gotta be tough living that kind of life.

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I never believe conspiracy theories. Like ever.

 

And I mostly do not this time, BUT.....this one is sort of odd. All the way around. It wouldnt surprise me if something more eventually came out. As in he had help, or was a scapegoat, etc.

I don't think this guy was a scapegoat. If anything he was a fall guy. It'll be interesting to see more footage as it become available. I agree with you though in general I don't believe conspiracy theories, but this one seems to have some legs. Vegas has cameras every where so the lack of footage will be telling.

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Too funny that I guests the nutjobs would bring this stuff up hours ago and they did shortly thereafter.

 

Now the struggle is was this a fake job set up the steel are guns by the liberals or was the shooter a liberal whack job? Boy It's gotta be tough living that kind of life.

For me its just hard to imagine some old dude doing that much carnage like that. Hard to wrap my head around it I guess. Nothing to do with political angles. :dunno:

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For me its just hard to imagine some old dude doing that much carnage like that. Hard to wrap my head around it I guess. Nothing to do with political angles. :dunno:

The guy expended what? Over a thousand rounds? I mean it's entirely possible. Especially if he had the mags preloaded and ready to go. Multiple guns as well. Doesn't matter how old you are it's not that hard to fire a gun. Which is what makes it dangerous.

 

On the topic of gun control, yes I DO believe we need it. There's no denying that. However, I do NOT believe we need to ban them all together. Regulate them sure. However, no amount of regulation was going to stop this. There was no "heat of the moment" here. He had this planned for months. Also, no gun ban was going to stop this. He would have found a different way. Scoured the internet to find out how to make a bomb, ordered the guns off the black market, made a compound that acts like a deadly gas, etc. This man knew what he wanted to do and was going to do it. There was no stopping him. Sad but it's the truth. Heart goes out to all those people and families affected

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The guy expended what? Over a thousand rounds? I mean it's entirely possible. Especially if he had the mags preloaded and ready to go. Multiple guns as well. Doesn't matter how old you are it's not that hard to fire a gun. Which is what makes it dangerous.

 

On the topic of gun control, yes I DO believe we need it. There's no denying that. However, I do NOT believe we need to ban them all together. Regulate them sure. However, no amount of regulation was going to stop this. There was no "heat of the moment" here. He had this planned for months. Also, no gun ban was going to stop this. He would have found a different way. Scoured the internet to find out how to make a bomb, ordered the guns off the black market, made a compound that acts like a deadly gas, etc. This man knew what he wanted to do and was going to do it. There was no stopping him. Sad but it's the truth. Heart goes out to all those people and families affected

 

Thing is the gun he used was already banned.

 

Also people keep asking how he got so many guns in his room like they've never heard of suitcases before. A gun can be broken down and it would be smart (lack of a better word) to have a few weapons at the ready in case of a jam.

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yeah.... pretty peculiar to conduct a mass, random murder with no strong political or religious ties. blackmail?

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So what do you whack jobs think this "conspiracy" was for?

 

Gun control? Like the Sandy Hook "hoax"? Because that one worked so well, amiright? :lol: :doh:

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So what do you whack jobs think this "conspiracy" was for?

 

Gun control? Like the Sandy Hook "hoax"? Because that one worked so well, amiright? :lol: :doh:

Conspiracy Theory in the context youre thinking isnt the right word. Its more to the point that I would not be surprised if there was more to the story. Nothing overtly political if you will, just more to the story. :dunno:

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Thing is the gun he used was already banned.

 

Also people keep asking how he got so many guns in his room like they've never heard of suitcases before. A gun can be broken down and it would be smart (lack of a better word) to have a few weapons at the ready in case of a jam.

Exactly. He was going to find a way to do this. This guy was determined. No gun control was going to stop that (people are idiots if they think it would have). And like I said he had multiple mags already loaded and ready to go as well as likely multiple guns in case of jams, muzzle getting too hot to fire, or gunk build up in the barrel.

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the whole thing stinks

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The second video definitely eliminates the possibility of a reflection. That muzzleflash was clearly coming from much lower on the building than the story we're being told.

 

Well. This one looks like a heaping helping of stinks.

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eta: Also this is really weird.

 

 

The shooter's filipino gf could be mistaken as hispanic but she is out of the country. And this woman in question was with another hispanic (looking) guy.

 

 

 

maybe you can see this?

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212600630404445&set=p.10212600630404445&type=3&theater

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Weird, but why would they lie about the floor? They would have to know it would be caught on camera with everyone having cell phones. If it was orchestrated, why couldn't the correct floor be part of that? :dunno:

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So what do you whack jobs think this "conspiracy" was for?

 

Gun control? Like the Sandy Hook "hoax"? Because that one worked so well, amiright? :lol: :doh:

Opposite, its to push gun sales like every gun tragedy does. These things are like Xmas for gun companies. Music to their ears.

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Opposite, its to push gun sales like every gun tragedy does. These things are like Xmas for gun companies. Music to their ears.

Good enough for me, let's round up all the gun manufacturers and toss 'em in prison :thumbsup:

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However, no amount of regulation was going to stop this. There was no "heat of the moment" here. He had this planned for months. Also, no gun ban was going to stop this. He would have found a different way. Scoured the internet to find out how to make a bomb, ordered the guns off the black market, made a compound that acts like a deadly gas, etc. This man knew what he wanted to do and was going to do it. There was no stopping him. Sad but it's the truth. Heart goes out to all those people and families affected

 

 

I gotta tell you, with what I quoted above, I agree totally.

Madmen will always find a way.

 

In a free society, this stuff will happen, but that doesn't mean I condone it, NOR do I believe it's just part of doing business.

We need to figure out why people are this way and address it.

 

But blaming the tool used to commit evil is just plain stupid.

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Yeah there's nut jobs everywhere. We get that. But let's take a look at London for example shall we? That's why people died by the ones and twos over there at the hands of nutjobs who have nothing more than knives and Volvo's. Whereas here people are dying by the dozens and getting wounded by the hundreds by nut jobs.

 

So yeah, I think you can blame the tool. And I don't just mean the tool who's pulling the trigger. Even most responsible gun owners don't see the need for high-capacity magazines and anything else that basically allows you to kill human beings by the dozens in a matter of minutes. But in this country we as always are ruled by the fringes the wackjobs the extremes on either side the loony 4% on either end of the spectrum.

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Yeah there's no jobs everywhere. We get that. But let's take a look at London for example shower? That's why people died by the ones and twos over there at the hands of nutjobs who have nothing more than knives and Volvo's. Whereas here people are dying by the dozens and getting wounded by the hundreds by nut jobs.

 

So yeah, I think you can blame the tool. And I don't just mean the tool who's pulling the trigger. Even most responsible gun owners don't see the need for high-capacity magazines and anything else that basically allows you to kill human beings by the dozens in a matter of minutes. But in this country we as always are ruled by the fringes the wackjobs the extremes on either side the loony 4% on either end of the spectrum.

Bingo. But just look at the nuts here that support supressors being legal to protect hearing on gun ranges.

 

Sure it makes it harder to run away from, and triangulate a shooter. But thats the price of Freedom. Wearing ear protection ruins their hair I guess.

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Hotel Guest Next Door To Las Vegas Shooter Saw Multiple Gunmenhttp://yournewswire.com/hotel-guest-las-vegas-shooter/

Yournewswire.com - "The questions must be asked: why is the mainstream media covering for a mass murderer? Why are they attempting to rewrite his past and erase his political affiliations? The answers are simple. The corporate media, controlled by a small, elite oligarchy, is operating on behalf of the New World Order, attempting to mislead the public into believing their enemies are their friends, and their friends are their enemies.

 

It doesnt suit the mainstream medias agenda to have an Antifa member responsible for the worst mass shooting in American history. They are actively engaged in covering up this fact up so they can continue pushing the New World Orders sick and twisted agenda."

 

God bless conspiracy theories. :popcorn:

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Yep this officially stinks. Look at the news on the shooter, he was a wealthy gambler with no priors. Cant wait til this gets busted open.

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I don't know any gun owner with at least half a brain that would waste good money taking a suppressor to the gun range. That's f****** stupid. Those things don't exactly last forever. You put on your f****** headphones and you fire away.

 

Saving your hearing my ass. LOL. You just want to look cool like the guys on TV. Unfortunately, suppressors don't exactly work the way they do on TV.

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Various selections from articles on fake news related to LV:

 

When they woke up and glanced at their phones on Monday morning, Americans may have been shocked to learn that the man behind the mass shooting in Las Vegas late on Sunday was an anti-Trump liberal who liked Rachel Maddow and MoveOn.org, that the F.B.I. had already linked him to the Islamic State, and that mainstream news organizations were suppressing that he had recently converted to Islam.

 

They were shocking, gruesome revelations. They were also entirely false and widely spread by Google and Facebook

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For those of you getting sucked into the: "This 'missing' person was at Sandy Hook AND Pulse! nonsense:

____________________

 

One troll Twitter account with a profile photo of YouTube personality TheReportOfTheWeek, tweeted a photo of Johnny Sins with a caption claiming that the man in the photo was the user's father who had gone missing after the Las Vegas shooting. He is actually a porn star.

 

The account, tweeting under the name "Jack Sins," was pegged as a false claim almost immediately after the tweet began to trend. When a Mashable reporter asked the account user why they would tweet a fake missing-person claim, the user replied, "For the retweets :)"

 

My dad is missing after Las Vegas shooting. Please RT and share. We are distraught #LasVegas #LasVegasShooting #MandalayBay

______________________

God, is there a lower form of life?

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yeah.... pretty peculiar to conduct a mass, random murder with no strong political or religious ties. blackmail?

Blackmail from? Mobster he was in debt to? Soros/Clinton/Commies who want to take away our guns? Russian hackers? Chinese businessmen?

 

If I had to roll with blackmail I would guess he was in Dubai with his AWOL girlfriend and racked up huge debts with Saudis. To wipe out his debts he had to be the trigger man or patsy for this attack. (I'd give this a 1% chance)

 

The best conspiracy I've seen is that he was a former CIA operative (explains why there is little to no record of employment, photographs, friends, social media presence, criminal history, mental illness history). He retired from CIA and lived the good life gambling and banging his little Filipina. After seeing the disgrace that the intelligence community has become over the past 10-15 years he lost it and decided to go out with a bang. He has always been a psychopath, it runs in his family, so he didn't care about the lost lives. He wanted to put himself in the history books and put the IC under a microscope. (I'd give this a 50% chance)

 

The guns, bullets, blood, and dead bodies were all real. There were no crisis actors needed on this one, he was a lone wolf with nothing to lose.

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Wiffle, are you really quoting some nursing home blog that is "shocked" that 4chan trolls post fake memes every time there is a happening? You are smarter than that.

 

In case you are not... google Sam Hyde.

 

MSM and News blogs reporting on that nonsense is as absurd as if they were reporting The Onion stories as real news.

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So if there was gunfire from the 4th floor, it would be pretty obvious that the window would be broken. Is it?

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For me, I hate that the first amendment protects these lying bastards. Guys who have in the past - and are already admitting to it now - lied - because

1) they knew there were idiots who would believe it and

2) Would subsequent re-tweet / forward this crap.

 

I think doing so is at least akin to shouting fire in a crowded movie theater. It incites people, diminishes public trust and a whole host of negative societal things.

 

Personally, I'd like to see these fockers do jail time and lose 'net access for such acts.

But, pretty hard to do seeing as how these days spreading lies and false innuendo starts at the top.

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Various selections from articles on fake news related to LV:When they woke up and glanced at their phones on Monday morning, Americans may have been shocked to learn that the man behind the mass shooting in Las Vegas late on Sunday was an anti-Trump liberal who liked Rachel Maddow and MoveOn.org, that the F.B.I. had already linked him to the Islamic State, and that mainstream news organizations were suppressing that he had recently converted to Islam.They were shocking, gruesome revelations. They were also entirely false and widely spread by Google and Facebook

People don't even care that it's fake news anymore, if it confirms what they want to be true

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So if there was gunfire from the 4th floor, it would be pretty obvious that the window would be broken. Is it?

Well you see, the Deep State also owns and operates a number of "legitimate" companies that they have operatives working in. Such as Applebees, Lawn Doctor, and Safelite.

 

They could have easily used the lower floor, shot out the window, and then had a Safelite truck with ex-wetwork Green Berets replace the window in no time flat during the chaos of the aftermath from inside the room.

 

Not only that, they could then all enjoy a nice meal at Applebees while the Deep State Applebees staff got rid of all the evidence in their garbage dumpsters.

 

It's obvious, once you follow the logic.

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Yeah there's nut jobs everywhere. We get that. But let's take a look at London for example shall we? That's why people died by the ones and twos over there at the hands of nutjobs who have nothing more than knives and Volvo's. Whereas here people are dying by the dozens and getting wounded by the hundreds by nut jobs.

 

So yeah, I think you can blame the tool. And I don't just mean the tool who's pulling the trigger. Even most responsible gun owners don't see the need for high-capacity magazines and anything else that basically allows you to kill human beings by the dozens in a matter of minutes. But in this country we as always are ruled by the fringes the wackjobs the extremes on either side the loony 4% on either end of the spectrum.

Didn't take yiy long for you to forget the 84 dead in France killed by a truck of peace.

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Well you see, the Deep State also owns and operates a number of "legitimate" companies that they have operatives working in. Such as Applebees, Lawn Doctor, and Safelite.

 

They could have easily used the lower floor, shot out the window, and then had a Safelite truck with ex-wetwork Green Berets replace the window in no time flat during the chaos of the aftermath from inside the room.

 

Not only that, they could then all enjoy a nice meal at Applebees while the Deep State Applebees staff got rid of all the evidence in their garbage dumpsters.

 

It's obvious, once you follow the logic.

That's crazy.

 

Much more likely the mob had joined with the Deep State and we all know the mob owns the lad vegas casinos including Mandalay Bay. That's OBVIOUSLY how it happened :wacko:

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People don't even care that it's fake news anymore, if it confirms what they want to be true

People quit caring about fake news decades ago.

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