cbfalcon 824 Posted June 24, 2017 I was talking with KSB earlier, and he doesn't understand why Chicago didn't accept Tristan Thompson and JR Smith for Butler. I didn't have a solid answer for him really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted June 24, 2017 well here is the thing. the Wolves are kind of like a better version of the Sixers in terms of doing a quicker rebuild and arguably having the more desirable trio in Lavine/Wiggins/Towns.... largely because Wiggins and Towns (and Lavine prior to last year) have been able to stay on the court. and like the sixers, they have not been a playoff team. So they probably didn't feel the need to offer much more themselves because Butler is not a guy who is going to put them over the hump to title contender. He's a guy who is going to put them into the playoffs. They had to part with Lavine but Butler >>> Lavine... From there, the hope is that their young core grows together and makes more noise. obviously i have no idea what other offers were made for Butler but I would think some of the contending teams, lets say Cleveland for example, would have needed to send Love back to Chicago and maybe Chicago doesn't wan't Love if they are deciding to tear it all down. a lot of the time money needs to work in a trade and you cant just throw up prospects and picks I think the Wolves and Sixers will be a nice comparison for the next year or two. Built very similarly period both loaded with young Talent. But you said the one key thing, Embiid and Simmons have to prove that they are durable. Assuming both teams stay healthy, it will be interesting to see who is better next year and the year after Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted June 24, 2017 I was talking with KSB earlier, and he doesn't understand why Chicago didn't accept Tristan Thompson and JR Smith for Butler. I didn't have a solid answer for him really. If that offer wa actually on the table and Cleveland declined it the GM should be fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted June 25, 2017 If that offer wa actually on the table and Cleveland declined it the GM should be fired. Didn't they fire the GM right after the draft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted June 25, 2017 I think the Wolves and Sixers will be a nice comparison for the next year or two. Built very similarly period both loaded with young Talent. But you said the one key thing, Embiid and Simmons have to prove that they are durable. Assuming both teams stay healthy, it will be interesting to see who is better next year and the year after Wolves are on another tier with Butler as a leader. 6ers gave all the talent in the world but no leader. Maybe Fultz or Simmons steps into the void. Those guys don't have any experience actually winning anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted June 25, 2017 Wolves are on another tier with Butler as a leader. 6ers gave all the talent in the world but no leader. Maybe Fultz or Simmons steps into the void. Those guys don't have any experience actually winning anything correct. i wasnt comparing Minny and Philly post Butler trade. I was comparing them pre trade. Seth Greenberg was on a lot of the NY area ESPN radio shows and he was really driving home the point that Philly is in year 5 of "the process" and Minny is doing a better job of it. His main question was would you rather have KAT, Wiggins and Lavine or Embiid, Simmons and Fultz, RIGHT NOW? The only argument anyone ever had for the Philly trio was that they could potentially be the better trio. Post trade its not really a good comparison anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted June 25, 2017 Wolves are on another tier with Butler as a leader. 6ers gave all the talent in the world but no leader. Maybe Fultz or Simmons steps into the void. Those guys don't have any experience actually winning anything I think this move makes te Wolves better in the short term but they really need Wiggins to develop into something more than a chucker. The Sixers go as Embiid goes this year. If he stays healthy for 50+ games I think they're a playoff team. If not they're probably in the 30-35 win range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted June 25, 2017 correct. i wasnt comparing Minny and Philly post Butler trade. I was comparing them pre trade. Seth Greenberg was on a lot of the NY area ESPN radio shows and he was really driving home the point that Philly is in year 5 of "the process" and Minny is doing a better job of it. His main question was would you rather have KAT, Wiggins and Lavine or Embiid, Simmons and Fultz, RIGHT NOW? The only argument anyone ever had for the Philly trio was that they could potentially be the better trio. Post trade its not really a good comparison anymore I'd rather have KAT than Embiid but only due to health. I'd much rather have Simmons / Fultz than Wiggins / Lavine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 540 Posted June 25, 2017 Wolves are on another tier with Butler as a leader. 6ers gave all the talent in the world but no leader. Maybe Fultz or Simmons steps into the void. Those guys don't have any experience actually winning anything true. As much talent as the Sixers have now, they have zero experience. They are all kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted December 17, 2018 This thread is so full of Fultz Fail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 17, 2018 This thread is so full of Fultz Fail He has been a bust so far. I had my concerns coming out of school and I am glad the Celtics traded that pick, got Tatum and then some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,877 Posted December 17, 2018 Fultz has been a massive bust no doubt. I care a lot less now that Butler is in Philly. Now we just need a bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 860 Posted December 17, 2018 Fultz has been a massive bust no doubt. I care a lot less now that Butler is in Philly. Now we just need a bench. i dunno. sixers are my least favorite philly squad. and im no bball expert. but looks to me the whole process netted them embid. maybe i'm wrong...but isn't a requirement to play bball the ability to shoot? simmons will never be sh;t if he can't shoot. it's kind of embrassing....you can leave him wide open from 5ft out. fultz is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 644 Posted December 17, 2018 I care a lot less now that Butler is in Philly. Give it a few months. His shtick will grow old real fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
